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Old March 26, 2017, 10:40 PM
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Default Genetic/Ethnic History and Origins of Bangladeshis

I always ask people about this question but it feels like not many people know. But where do we ethnically originate from? I heard Persia get thrown around and I guess we can be classed in the Indian category and then Islam came through Mughals into India. So we also have a lot of Mughal blood in us. I dont know about Mughal history that well and where they are ethnically from either. But many people in BC i assume would be knowledgeable about this subject.

I hope people don't just google and copy paste or link websites rather im hoping BC members have proper knowledge about this topic.
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Old March 26, 2017, 11:15 PM
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If "we" means Bangali then we originate from Bangal or Bangladesh or the Indus valley. Mughals (Turkic/Mongol) or Persians/Arabs came later and inter-married with the natives. If you go back thousands and thousands years before that then probably Africa via Mongolia. Before that Adam and Hawwa.
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Old March 27, 2017, 02:07 AM
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a little bit of persian blood.
a little bit of turkish blood.
a little bit of indian/pakistani blood.
a little bit of arab blood.
a little bit of burmese blood.
a little bit of chinese blood.

Bangladeshis are mixtures of a tons of different cultures.
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Old March 27, 2017, 03:50 AM
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This is a tricky one to answer and I have myself thought of the same. This depends alot on which part of Bangladesh you are talking about and what community. Even for a small country surrounded mainly by India we surprisingly have people with many different backgrounds:

I have had friends who have lineage from different areas
- links to Arab countries (Syed family)
- some of direct Persian links (Indian Aga Khan)
- Pakistani (Memon and Chalk Bazar busisness men)
- Scottish (Tea plantation settlers)
- Portugese (Christian Chittgong)
- Assam and Burma (Chakma and Khasia)
- China (businessmen who settled down and opened laundry and restaraunts
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Old March 27, 2017, 04:04 AM
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Civilization was born in Mesopotamia, aka Iraq
Aryans came from there and settled in the Indus valley. We are descendants of Aryans.
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Old March 27, 2017, 04:15 AM
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Civilization was born in Mesopotamia, aka Iraq
Aryans came from there and settled in the Indus valley. We are descendants of Aryans.
Damn. Time to start the 3rd world war then.

By the way, I swear Mushy has some Chinese blood in him, he looks Chinese.
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Old March 27, 2017, 06:39 AM
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How did Arab blood get to us?
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Old March 27, 2017, 06:47 AM
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How did Arab blood get to us?
Not all of us, but very few. My friend who is from the Syed family can trace back his lineage to Arabia where his forefathers had travelled from. They have some kind of document with all their signatures.

PS: My wife's great grandfather brought an orphan back from Hajj who was orginally from an African country. That started another lineage in Sylhet as he settled and got married in Bangladesh.
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Old March 27, 2017, 09:21 AM
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Bengali as an ethnic group is mainly a mix of Dravidian of Dravidian and Tibeto Burman with a hint of Indo-Aryan and then followed by some small mixing with Arab/Persian (Mughal) blood.

But we are mostly Dravidian (that's why our generally darker skin tone) and Tibeto Burman (thus round cheeks and nose). Over the last 500 years, there has been some Arab/Aryan/Persian interaction but very minimal. So we do have some fair skinned or sharp features people but it is mostly specific to certain areas (i.e. some parts of old Dhaka where Mughals ruled and Persian/Afghan traders settled, Sylhet where Arab Sufis and merchants settled and other areas).

We can take a look at our cricket team and staff which is a pretty good sample of the Bengali population.

Papon is clearly Tibeto Burman. Shakib/Mustafiz is quintessentially Bengali. Nasir/Mashrafi slightly less so. Farhad Reza is maybe from Baghdad. Shamim Chow has British royal blood evident from his accent.
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Old March 27, 2017, 12:36 PM
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Bengali as an ethnic group is mainly a mix of Dravidian of Dravidian and Tibeto Burman with a hint of Indo-Aryan and then followed by some small mixing with Arab/Persian (Mughal) blood.

But we are mostly Dravidian (that's why our generally darker skin tone) and Tibeto Burman (thus round cheeks and nose). Over the last 500 years, there has been some Arab/Aryan/Persian interaction but very minimal. So we do have some fair skinned or sharp features people but it is mostly specific to certain areas (i.e. some parts of old Dhaka where Mughals ruled and Persian/Afghan traders settled, Sylhet where Arab Sufis and merchants settled and other areas).

We can take a look at our cricket team and staff which is a pretty good sample of the Bengali population.

Papon is clearly Tibeto Burman. Shakib/Mustafiz is quintessentially Bengali. Nasir/Mashrafi slightly less so. Farhad Reza is maybe from Baghdad. Shamim Chow has British royal blood evident from his accent.
lol....
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Bumped this thread....because wanna learn more.

Surprised that the input is limited. A little disinterested perhaps?

Let's make FC the face of BC again when there aren't any matches.

Come on guys, your Web presence should be more of a healthy one.
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I think Taskin may have a little bit of Mongol blood in him. Or some central Asian lineage.
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I think Taskin may have a little bit of Mongol blood in him. Or some central Asian lineage.
what makes you think that?
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what makes you think that?
This was purely based on his looks.

I may be wrong.
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This was purely based on his looks.

I may be wrong.
Bengalis are mostly Dravidian and Tibeto-Burman. So a lot of us has those east Asian (or "Chinese" for the lack of better word) features. But not Central Asian which are the countries of Mongolia, Uzbek, Tajik, Kazakh, Kyrgyzstan.
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Very good thread, hopefully can learn more about our history of where we came from, bloodline etc.

Would it be wrong to say we are probably a mixture of everything?

I mean it would be very hard for someone to say about our forefathers of 3,000+ years ago?

Lets take it even further? since the creation of earth? maybe our great great great times by 100.. was in fact a arbian, Russian, sri Lankan.. it could be anything?

Btw how far does history go back to trace our ethnicity? origins? is there a limitation?
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Old April 19, 2017, 04:32 PM
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Bengalis are mostly Dravidian and Tibeto-Burman. So a lot of us has those east Asian (or "Chinese" for the lack of better word) features. But not Central Asian which are the countries of Mongolia, Uzbek, Tajik, Kazakh, Kyrgyzstan.
Thanks, makes it much clearer.
But, at some point in history, China was part of the great Mongol empire.
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Irish,Scottish,English,French,German,Indian a soldier in 16th century.
Not sure of what else.
I am a relation of the Grahams in Scotland,who were part of the Clans that fought the British,Graham a very famous Scottish name.
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people can take tests to find out about their ethnicity ? Why not somehow get a bd national player to go through a test. That would be pretty cool actually.
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That would be interesting,where can you take those tests?
I only know through family histories.
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Oops wrong thread.
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Old April 21, 2017, 09:50 PM
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That would be interesting,where can you take those tests?
I only know through family histories.
there are centres that do it iirc. Costs like 200 bucks or something.
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Ok thanks,thats affordable.
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there are centres that do it iirc. Costs like 200 bucks or something.
Here you can get them for around £70
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