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Old January 23, 2005, 08:39 PM
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Those Aircraft pics are quite an interesting mix. Rather, an intriguing mix!!!!

Hercules C-130 has US-Origin.

AN-32 (Antonov), MIG-29, MI-17 are from Russia.

Q-5 Fatan and F7/J7 have Chinese origins though J7 is supposed to be the cheaper Chinese copy of Russian MIG-21F.

I wonder if Bangladesh is the only nation which has Airforce with Aircrafts from US, Russia and China. (I am not sure if that's a good idea, cos the technical support and maintenance is a huge overhead in such a case)

Pakistan has mostly US warplanes (F16 etc.) and India has Soviet ones.
India uses Russian MIG series, French MIRAGE series, and British Jaguar.

Pakistan uses Chinese F-7, A-5, French older MIRAGE series, and U.S F-16.

So, Bangladesh is not the only country which is buying aircrafts from more than one sources.
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Old January 23, 2005, 09:12 PM
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32 storied Bangladesh Bank vaban I think. Another 50 storied building(owned by DCC) at Matijhil is now under construction.
50 storied? Are you sure? I thought Dhaka's soil condition would not let construct a building as high as 50- storey.
You are right the highest building in bangladesh is underconstrction and it is 37 floors.
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Old January 23, 2005, 09:35 PM
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Thanks Maruf.

Actually i meant i don't know of many countries that use aircrafts from US, Russia and China.

It's a strange combination.
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Old January 23, 2005, 10:55 PM
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Bangladesh also plans to accquire fifteen JF-17 planes from Pakistan. The plane is made by Pakistan & China.
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Old January 24, 2005, 11:28 AM
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Sultan,

Apart from the paint job, what is the technological contribution of Pakistan in J7/F7?
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Old January 24, 2005, 12:37 PM
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Thanks Maruf.

Actually i meant i don't know of many countries that use aircrafts from US, Russia and China.

It's a strange combination.

You are quite right. It is strange, because we all know they are useless. Let the little boy play with his big brothers' broken toys.
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Old January 24, 2005, 01:00 PM
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Faiz Lake


Kuakata


Jaflong.

Edited on, January 24, 2005, 6:15 PM GMT, by bdmoderator.

Edited on, January 24, 2005, 6:21 PM GMT, by bdmoderator.
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Old January 24, 2005, 08:31 PM
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great pics dude

Edited on, January 25, 2005, 2:17 AM GMT, by chinaman.
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Old January 25, 2005, 03:27 AM
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I liked the pic of Foize lake.Great!
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Old January 25, 2005, 11:22 PM
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Sultan,

Apart from the paint job, what is the technological contribution of Pakistan in J7/F7?
Besides half of the funding for it, Pakistan does help China develop it. That is why it is called a joint Pakistan-China venture, not a Chinese venture.
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Old January 25, 2005, 11:26 PM
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Nice pics, I wouldn't mind taking a vacation there.

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Old January 26, 2005, 09:26 AM
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Please do not quote images. Thank you.
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Old January 26, 2005, 12:48 PM
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Apart from the paint job, what is the technological contribution of Pakistan in J7/F7?
Look up the history of the JF-17, Pakistani and Chinesse have equal contributions in the project, no one gives away there tech on equal partnership. We've both done research on the plane, the aero dynamics, etc. Pakistan also plans to accquire a stake in the Chinesse J-10 project. We're also making and exporting other planes as well. Just shipped out orders to KSA, and other countries are on waiting list.

The JF-17 has been proven to match the F-16 Block 15.

China is building the engine for the plane, originally a Russian engine was supposed to be used, but now China took the rights from Russia to make it, and will make it, and then provide ToT to Pakistan on the engines as well.

The whole plane, except the engine intially will be manufactured in different parts of Pakistan.

If Pakistan was only doing a paint job, Boeing wouldn't be out sourcing to Pakistan. We're soon going to make Boeing parts as well.

Edited on, January 26, 2005, 5:51 PM GMT, by Sultan.
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Old January 26, 2005, 12:54 PM
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By the way, Nice pictures of Bangladesh.

Can someone post pictures from Chittagong ?
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Old January 26, 2005, 01:01 PM
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I think, the thread is about pics in bangladesh and not about war planes who has/makes what. Let's keep it within the context. By the way, Faiz lake is in chittagong [i think, some one has asked a question]. ctg stadium[ma aziz ] pic is in cricinfo page
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Old January 26, 2005, 01:05 PM
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I think, the thread is about pics in bangladesh and not about war planes who has/makes what. Let's keep it within the context. By the way, Faiz lake is in chittagong [i think, some one has asked a question]. ctg stadium[ma aziz ] pic is in cricinfo page
Agreed. This thread is starting to go off-topic.

So, is someone willing to post some nice pics from Chittagong ??
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Old January 26, 2005, 02:15 PM
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By the way, Nice pictures of Bangladesh.

Can someone post pictures from Chittagong ?

Faiz Lake is in CHittagong. Anyways, I will try to post some more pictures of Chittagong.
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Old January 26, 2005, 02:26 PM
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The JF-17 has been proven to match the F-16 Block 15.
Is the JF-17 the F-9 ? We have the F- 7s, which Ershad's son code named "Thundercats."

I do not think the above quote is a fact, or will ever be ! What is a Block 15 anyway ?

This is the first time I have seen a Pakistani bragging this much about their home manufactured/developed fighters. Indians are usually more prone to this.

Ofcourse we Bangladeshis are the worst. We don't even know how to properly harness our F-6s to the turmac......and so lost a whole squadron in 1991 to the cyclone.
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Old January 26, 2005, 07:03 PM
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Warplanes are a topic of shame for Bangladesh anyway. A country where over 80% of the people are poor buying fighters is nothing to be proud of. Who on earth would invade or attack Bangladesh? Bangladesh doesn't even need such a huge army let alone an air force and navy! What Bangladesh should concentrate on now is human capital formation. Basic education is a must.
Weirdest thing is after the very common yearly floods, irrespective of who is in power, you will see the Prime Minister on tv appealing for international aid. Bangladesh government experts also said that due to the most recent floods, Bangladesh will take around 10 years (forgot the exact figure) to recover. So on one side, you appeal for aid and and on the other side, you buy fighters for a useless air force.

Where's the logic?
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Old January 27, 2005, 01:20 AM
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AGC, I think you are making a gross mistake. I think the fallacy in your thought process will be corrected soon enough by others, but let me take a stab at it if I may.

As someone living in Luxembourg, you just won't understand how the people living in Bangladesh are attached to their jet fighters. Not only are they a source of national pride to the masses, but the people of Bangladesh actually are fond of these planes and get to take them out on spins on the weekends.

Just the other day our darwan Rahim Bhai was chuckling about how he did a tight 8-loop on a recent weekend run on one of those Thundercats, and how he wished my uncle the fighter pilot hero of the Srinagar and Pathankot raids could have been around to see that!

But these aren't opportunities you will understand, AGC, because sadly you have been brainwashed by the Luxembourg media. All that neither-Austrian nor-German complex only incites hate, and I am afraid makes even Bangladeshis living there worry a bit too much about whether these warplanes are an issue. The people in Bangladesh are really more ashamed of their floods and their politicians than they are of their warplanes. I just don't get it why the Luxembourg press doesn't report this in a fair way.

But if I were to go ahead and try to pseudo-intellectualize it then I should add that I think Indians living in Luxembourg suffer from the same complex as well. I have seen many, many Indians in Luxembourg (in fact, all 3,457 of them) have this same kind of negative attitude towards the Indian Air Force warplanes. Maybe it's that high altitude air that makes them so shameful of the thing that makes their countrymen at home so proud?

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Old January 27, 2005, 10:28 PM
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Rafiq,

It's not their fault. Our politicians have never openly talked about the security needs of Bangladesh. That is why ordinary Bangladeshis question the purchase of war machines when millions of people are deprived of basic human needs.

Bangladesh's geo-strategic location dictates that Bangladesh maintains a high level of defence preparedness to consolidate its security. Bangladesh is surrounded by military heavy-weights and it's geographical location is also a headache for India. India's North-Eastern 7 states are physically isolated due to Bangladesh's peculiar geographical location. This constitutes a major strategic weak point for India. Bangladesh's ever increasing economic and defence relations with China is also a matter of concern for India.

Bangladesh is the bridge between South and South east aisa. Usually countries with this kind of unique geo-strategic location maintains a powerful military. There are many other important reasons for which Bangladesh will have to be a military and economic power.

The policymakers of Bangladesh need to open up the military matters so that the people can know the security vulnerabilities of the country and understand how it could affect the country as a whole. Thank you.

Edited on, January 28, 2005, 3:30 AM GMT, by Maruf.
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Old January 28, 2005, 03:07 AM
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i recently bought 1 month subscription of channel I and i really am surprised with all the development in BD in all areas (technology, arts & culture...). it seems like in past few years BD have advanced 20-30 years. its amazing.
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Old January 28, 2005, 09:30 AM
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Bangladesh doesn't even need such a huge army let alone an air force and navy!
Great observation, AGC. I find very few people who raise the question about if a country like Bangladesh with very low GDP and an unstable economic structure really have the luxury to rear and feed a huge standing army. Trust me if you were in Bangladesh and uttered a single word against the necessity of such a sterile military force, your voice would be severely cut off by the media and both the ruling and opposition parties. Its only because both the parties need the standing army and its support to grab the state mechanism. In a semi-feudal pre-capitalist country like Bangladesh, democracy is what the bureaucracy and standing army want, and who they want to see in the government. No wonder why the budget in education and agriculture sectors are cut short in every fiscal year to feed and upbring this huge unproductive toothless army.

What we really need is the compulsary and mandetory military training to every single Bangladeshi youth, which seems will never be implemented in the long run in Bangladesh. *sigh*

Edited on, January 28, 2005, 5:22 PM GMT, by Navarene.
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Old January 30, 2005, 03:20 PM
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Picture of kaptai lake.
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Old January 30, 2005, 03:26 PM
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