selectors gave the match away

[cracky]

A gift to Zimbawe from our selectors. Its ok that they have given rest Rafiq and Mortaza. But rest of the decission are all wrong.

#1. how they can include "out of form" kapali in a team which is already weak. They could take the risk some other day when there would have been Rafiq and Mortaza in the team.

#2. Enamul should have been include.

#3. All knows Zimbabwe is weak against spin. And yet selectors used only 1 spinner.

If they want to come back on the second match, I say make a bowling powered team, rather than a batting team. In addition to restricting opponents, bowlers scores more runs than our batsman.

Edited on, January 20, 2005, 2:40 PM GMT, by cracky.

[Mahmood]

Yeah, the selectors are to be blamed for this loss.

[AsifTheManRahman]

i feel like shooting the selectors through the chest

[cracky]

congratulations selectors. You got what you asked for. This was a golden chance for us to make our ODI ranking better, and you people waste that away.

[shujan]

India did the same mistake with us. This selectors are retarded. They have learning disability. Atahar and Faruq sux!

[AsifTheManRahman]

amra india/pakistan na je amra 2 number team khelay jitte parbo...amra bangladesh - and the selectors and players forgot that.

i do get disappointed when bangladesh lose - but here was a match which we lost because we were on cloud 9 after winning the test series.

i am simply mad now

[Ahmed_B]

r u out of your mind?!?!
u r writing this after actually 'Watching' the game or just reading commentary??

u r blaming selectors for the way Nafees/Rajin/Bashar/Aftab/even Ash.. played and gave away their wickets??

when u r blaming the selectors.. u r actually blaming BD bowling for the match-loss!!!

it was more THE SHAMEFULL BATTING causing the defeat!!!

[rafiq]

First of all, that was a great finish by Sujon and Tapash. Had it not been for the youthful exuberance of Nazmul, trying to run for a run without even looking at where the ball had gone, Tapash had a very decent chance to hit 23 of 2 overs. But the game was lost early in the day when most of the batsman got out gifting their wickets. But I think the ending itself is an improvement - a year ago they would have given up around the 45th over, and would have tried to last 50 overs instead of going for the win.

This 11 was the most suspect of all possibilities the selectors could have come up with. Nazmul, Rajjak are simply not experienced enough. Alok is actually back in form in domestic cricket, and at this point Aftab is not contributing with bat or ball. All the selectors could have done is played Rana instead of Alok from the 13 announced for the team. But I think Rana's bowling is pretty harmless, and who knows if he would have made a difference.

Enamul, on the other hand, should have played and the ZIm team must be wondering how stupid we are not to use him. I'd like to see both Enamul and Mashrafee return in the 2nd game; in the middle order the only thing they can do is bring in Rana but they may give Aftab/Alok one more try.

[cricket_pagol]

I would not blame the selectors too much...
#It was important for the selectors to give rest to masri and enamul. Enamul is still 18 so we should not over use him.
#kapali got a deserving chance after playing well in the domestic league... we should wait a couple of games before making a judgement on kapali's return to ODI cricket

we lost the game because
#of coupe of reckless shots at the top of the order were responsible for cheap wickets (even though few catches were dropped)
#Middle order did not play well as Aftab and Kapali got out cheaply (irresponsible shots as well)

[AsifTheManRahman]

Originally posted by crickethorizon
r u out of your mind?!?!
u r writing this after actually 'Watching' the game or just reading commentary??

u r blaming selectors for the way Nafees/Rajin/Bashar/Aftab/even Ash.. played and gave away their wickets??

when u r blaming the selectors.. u r actually blaming BD bowling for the match-loss!!!

it was more THE SHAMEFULL BATTING causing the defeat!!!

rana should have played instead of alok - addition to both batting and bowling

yes, the bowling is to blame as well

enamul shouldn't have been rested

was mashrafe unfit for this match?

[rafiq]

actually it was a competitive game. the series will probably end up 3-2, hopefully in bangladesh's favor. we need to win with whatever 11 are on the field on any given day - and all these players are capable. we just lost this one, that;s all - no need to pull your hair out over it. zimbabwe are on par with us as an odi team (ie both teams are pretty lame) so they are not going to just roll over and die.

[mahbubH]

I thought Razzak would be better than Rana ... but I was wrong .... it was reachable target but we failed because of lack of professinalism .... they way Nafees got out is horrible .... he just gave away his wicket .... I do not see reasons to blame selectors because they choose Alok after he showd his form in Dhaka league. Enamul cannot be sure selections over Razzak in ODIs because of his batting. Razzak just flopped and he usually does better than this. We just miss Rafique .. thats all! Weldone Zimbo!

[fwullah]

it was more THE SHAMEFULL BATTING causing the defeat

NO, KEEP THE BATSMAN OUT OF THIS LOSS. It was the bowlers' job to restrict the batsman to below 250 - they could not do it. Just tell me, how many times did we restrict many other stronger teams (much more stronger than this Zimbabwe side) to just 250? ANSWER: Many times.

And yet, when we get a side as 'inexperienced' as Zimbabwe are, and yet, we give them away 250 runs - its a mammoth target - I tell you, especially after losing the toss and under those conditions, batting last - in a day nighter (remember Canada?).


And Zimbabwean bowling may not be a strong bowling line up, but they have shown that their bowling is stronger than their batting - just like us. If you want more proof that it was not our batsman's fault, read my next reply.

[AsifTheManRahman]

we lost the match even before we played. this was pretty inevitable ever since we won the test series and our players started big mouthing, and the selectors started leaving out the best in utter arrogance.

Edited on, January 20, 2005, 3:24 PM GMT, by AsifTheManRahman.

[crazyisland]

I know we are all upset now but if you look at it subjectively... it's not the selector's problem.
Selector just rested the bowlers for very good reasons. Both Rafique and Mashrafe were semi-injured. You had to give them some rest or you do more damage to them. I think the bowlers did a decent job. 250 in a batting pitch is not high target at all. They did their job but our batmen, as we are very used to, could not play up to their mark.

Now look at the batting line up... This is NOT a BD 2nd Team Line up...

Nafis, Rajin, Bashar, Ash, Aftab, Kapali, K Mashud are the best line up we could make for ODIs.

We lost the game because our batsmen specially middle order failed to build solid partnerships by playing rash shots.

Well we got to come back very hard the next game and I am sure they will.

[AsifTheManRahman]

we lost the match even more when we conceded 250 runs.

eshob kotha bole labh nai - jader kothay kothay rest dorkar hoy taaderke teamei nawa uchit na.

enamul and masri should've played.

rafique's injury was genuine - i have no complaints against that.

yesterday i said that we CAN'T win with four bowlers. we should have played rana. how can you play an ODI with four bowlers and expect the occassionals to bowl a huge percentage of the overs?

[AsifTheManRahman]

i wouldn't mind if they rested players against australia - the outcome would have been the same.

however, this is a team we can beat only if we step down from cloud 9.

[CTazim]

1st ODI Post Mortem- Top Ten Reasons Bangladesh Lost

#1 When Rajjak was conceding too many runs, Bashar took 2-3 overs too many to bring in changes. Bashar needs to be more decisive on the field.

#2. Aftab, Alok playing too defensively at a horrific strike rate for an ODI.


#3. Shujon's Run out was unfortunate --> Chigumbara was blocking him and was the pivotal point when match was getting in our grasp and slipped away.

#4. Nazmul's run out.. There were 12 balls remaining and I think at worst we could have lost by 5 or 6 run and that we had a fair shot at getting to the target. Runs scored at a rate in overs immediately preceding the dismissal justify that claim.

#5. Not selecting ROKON was a mistake

#6. Not selecting RANA was a mistake. ( Alok and Aftabs are flops).

#7. Not selecting Enamul is not the reason of not winning though.

#8. Resting Rafique and MASRI are not reasons for the loss either.

#9. Ashraful should not PLAY TESTS as ODI and ODISs as if it were a Test match.

#10. Undeer estimating any opponent is DEADLY !

[Sam]

Infact, there was no hard hitter at the tail end, when both Rafiq and Mashrafe were dropped. Addition of Rana could have improved this situation.
Razzak was given chance against Enam Jnr. which was not correct. Enam has the flow, moreover Zim players will think twice before hitting his deliveries.
Except Aftab, Alok and K. Mashud others played not bad. But at the end we found short of batters.

[fwullah]

1. First of all, we are playing with only one specialist opener, and we have 2 very new batsman in our side - Nafees and Aftab. So, we have to let a vital middle order batsman Rajin Saleh to bat at the top. And it worked - credit to Rajin Saleh that he's able to play very well despite not being a specialist opening batsman against this attack.

2. Now about those new batsman - Nafees Iqbal and Aftab Ahmed - I don't blame them - how could you blame them? They have been into the side since - just under one year.

3. Rajin Saleh - you could blame him for not continuing; but then again, if it was not for him, then we would have never gone on to score so quickly - taking on the bowlers in the first 15 overs. In fact, except for Rafique in that lone ODI match which we won against Kenya, I don't remember many of our openers attacking the bowlers and taking advantage of those field restrictions.

4. You could blame Habibul Bashar the batsman, because not only is he the captain, but he's also the most experienced batsman in the side. I remember, he played shots and was dropped twice (or just fell short of the fielder) in the same areas as he was out in the test matches (2nd innings) and earlier today. But then again, he is just one single batsman - how can he alone take Bangladesh home - especially when the target is so huge?

5. You could blame Ashraful for not scoring quickly - as quickly as Rajin Saleh, but I've seen him bat today - there wasn't anything much that he could do; except for may be trying to stay in the wicket for a few more overs with Sujon on the other end. After all, the game was quite close when Sujon and then Tapash started hitting. Ashraful was also under a lot of pressure to hit boundaries at that stage. I guess he can only learn from today's game - you also have to remember that he hasn't played much of One Day cricket outside the national team.

6. You could blame Aftab again, but he's been looking so nervous and so out of confidence throughout against Zimbabwe, it was almost certain that he'd not score too much under such a pressure situation.

7. You could also blame Alok Kapali. whom the selectors reckon is back in form, but looking at his batting, the only thing that jolted in my mind is that our domestic cricket doesn't have a good bowler like Hondo playing; so its obvious that Kapali hasn't played International cricket for a long time. However, he had played Prosper Utseya way more comfortably than other batsman like Bashar or Ashraful. So, does it tell you anything? In fact, when Bashar and Ashraful was finding it very difficult to get away from Utseya delivery, Kapali was (as far as I can remember) the first batsman to take singles off this off spinner.

8. You could also blame Khaled Mashud, I think we all know by now that when Mashud keeps badly, he also bats badly in the same match - we have seen enough proofs of this - just remember the Kenya match in the world cup 2003.

9. You could blame Khaled Mahmud Sujon for getting run out, or for having a groin injury, for which reason he was unable to take those quick singles when Ashraful and Sujon was batting. But nobody has any hands over injuries, isn't it? Besides, it was quite evident from the tv replays that as the bowler was in between Sujon on the non-striking end and him, so it was just a case of bad luck than anything else. May be you could blame Sujon for backing up from too far also. But it was a pressure situation and quick singles were in demand, had there been opportunities with Tapash batting in the striking end.

10. Tapash batted magnificiently - if you want to blame him, you can blame him for .... what? nothing. He was taking Bangladesh home - showing how big hearted player he is; and also why he's called an allrounder in domestic cricket.

11. Rajjak - I'm yet to see any good batting from him. I don't remember how well he batted in his debut series during the Asia Cup - can anyone remember? If you want to blame any batsman - blame him, for being in the side, for giving the selectors so much in favor of him and yet, not performing in the end. I had thought that Raj was selected in the team ahead of Enamul Junior because of his batting ability, guess I was wrong.

12. You could blame Nazmul - for running without looking where the ball went; but he's too, so new and inexperienced, he may not have played too many 50 over games in domestic matches as well. However, the way he supported Tapash before getting out, I think that if Rajjak is to play in any of the next matches, along with Nazmul, then I think Nazmul deserves to bat ahead of Raj. (Really, I don't know what the selectors have seen in Raj).

[fwullah]

Not selecting ROKON was a mistake

Completely disagree.

If we had 11 Rokons in our side, we would have been 10 all out in 5 overs.

[AsifTheManRahman]

Originally posted by fwullah

Completely disagree.

If we had 11 Rokons in our side, we would have been 10 all out in 5 overs.

no fwullah, that's giving rokon more credit than he deserves

[fwullah]

Infact, there was no hard hitter at the tail end, when both Rafiq and Mashrafe were dropped. Addition of Rana could have improved this situation.

Absolutely. Rana could come in place of either Kapali or Aftab in the next matches.

[shaheen]

I would like to raise the following point for the selectors as well as our Captain

1. For selectors: How many specialist bowlers we selected for this match. I think only five specialist bowlers and they are Nazmul/ Razzak and Taposh. Of course we have many part time bowlers like Ash/Rajin/Afatb/Alok etc. But did they think what will happen if one of our specialist bowler do not click then what will happen?? And that is the main reason why Zim had such a fighting scorecard in their innings.

2. For Captain: I would say Bashar should know how and when to use his part timers. I think he did not use part time bowlers at appropriate time and manner. I was wondering Why he used Razzak after 45th over? while Our main bowlers Taposh/ nazmul even Aftab had many overs to bowl.

From the very beginning Captain did not control Zim boundary's. And it seems to me that he was more eager to check the singles rather then that fours; Our Captain should understand the role of Captain; He should understand that without batting he has a lot of things to do for the team; he should learn a lot from his counterpart regarding this matter; Captaincy really play a BIG ROLE in ODI

3. Lastly and most importantly none of our batsman really played with responsibility; From the evry beginning when Nafis gets out all our batsman choose the same ways; I was wondering what type of instruction they were getting from the Captain as well as Coach;

We do not mind if we loose the game with a better opposition and after giving a good fight. But here it is quite different case; we did not loose because of our strength but just because of our selectors and lack of proper planning; Selectors should know whether Captain can use all his part time bowler when only three specialist are available.

[fwullah]

no fwullah, that's giving rokon more credit than he deserves

Come on, there has to be 10 balls to get 10 batsman out.