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Old February 12, 2005, 11:59 PM
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Default Talking about some former players: Bidyut/Opee

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hi!!Why do u think that opee is a perfect opener?For his century?Why Biddyut is his perfect partner? Dont u think Biddyut is a perfect opener?Did u see his batting against Pakis 1999wc. His 95 against Zimbabwe. 47 and 45 against Wi when Ambrose and wales use to play for Wi.He played against great bolwer like wasim,waqar,ambrose,wales but opee has a good score against Zim and Wi.People remember opee only for his century,media publicity.He has a good Odi avg but he is always unpredictable.He is also a good opener.
I used to think of Opee a perfect opener - obviously for his ODI century. That is why I supported Opee's inclusion in the team during the SA home series 2003. I used to think Bidyut as his perfect partner because of their 'running between the wickets' together - because of their understanding between each other.

At the time when players like Al Shahriar, Javed Omar, Hannan Sarkar were failing, both Opee and Bidyut were the 'ideal' players that we could think of.


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If u think abt Biddyut,he did not get any media publicity but he was not afraid when he used to play against great bowler.His tecnique,style everything is like a perfect opener.He is not playing because Faruq ahmed doesn't like him.Injury is not any reason.He was in form but he did not get chance in Dhaka division.
Bidyut did not get as much media publicity, but still, he is (EVEN NOW) our best batsman against Kenya - a team that we were supposed to beat on every occassion. Even now I reckon that if we had 5 Bidyuts in our side when we played against Kenya, we could have easily beaten Kenya most of the times. And don't tell me that losses to Kenya didn't mean anything to us - it was much more painful - kinda like the loss to Canada. And Bidyut was the only player who stood out - ahead of Akram, Bulbul, Nannu, Atahar.

But as I pointed out in another thread regarding Shanto, like Shanto, Bidyut has his shortcomings. I am not trying to defend Faruque's selection decisions, only saying that my dreams regarding Bidyut was shattered when I saw Bidyut - after 4 years' time against Zimbabwe at the International stage. You could say that 'he broke my heart' with his poor batting technique. A specialist opener should not have such a poor technique - not when we want to win or to be competitive against the likes of England or Australia respectively.

However, its not Bidyut's fault that he has a poor technique. When he was playing for Bangladesh during '98, '99 - there was no need for batting technique. Now Bangladesh have come a long way since those times. Things like proper techniques mean a lot in these days. At this particular moment, I don't remember exactly what was wrong with Bidyut, but as far as I can remember, he's very weak outside the off stump. He always fishes at outside the off stump balls. Among the recent players, Monjurul Islam Rana has this major weakness.



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Old February 13, 2005, 12:08 AM
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bhai WALES keda?
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Old February 13, 2005, 12:41 AM
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I think Bidyut is out of team for his fitness.
He was out of all forms of cricket for a over a year.
When he came back, he batted well, but he did not have the level of fitness our national team requires now-a-days. All the hard exercises players do in national team camp, it was kind of impossible for him to cope with due to his long absence from athletic world. As far I remember, i read an article on this issue somewhere.
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Old February 13, 2005, 12:58 AM
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time to forget opee bidyut and staff and think how to improve the ability and technique of nafis, rajin or even rafique or rana.
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Old February 13, 2005, 03:18 AM
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I don't think we need to forget anyone for their miserable performance or remember someone for their good performance is long-past games.

Players should be selected solely based on performance and nothing else. Star status and year-old performance shoudn't be the factors considered while choosing a team.
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Old February 13, 2005, 05:48 AM
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Forget about both of them...
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Old February 13, 2005, 11:48 AM
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nah we shouldnt forget them...we should remember them for their contribution....opi and biddut were treat to watch in their old days......... but now its time for new young players like nafis aftab.....
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Old February 13, 2005, 12:35 PM
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They lost their ways.........
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Old February 13, 2005, 04:22 PM
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fwullah, your points are well taken. But I dont agree with your statement that Biddyut did not play with positive technique in the late 90s. As far as I remember, Biddyut's technique was superior than many other so-called "star batsmen" in the team.

Biddyut is my favourite player of all times. No one will take his spot which i hold in my heart. And I have grown to absorb the harsh fact that Biddyut have always had to bear the wrath of his times' cruel team-selectors. True he didnt have form, but few of the complaints that were raised against him are purely baseless.

And I still dont understand as to WHY some BD fans still fail to acknowledge the presence of Shahriar Hossain Biddyut, be it long gone... atleast recognize what he did to top-notch bowlers of Pakistan, West Indies, Zimbabwe, and that MCC team IN THAT ERA (which many of you tend to forget because BD has come a long way)...

Biddyut still stands as the only batsman of Bangladesh to score centuries in both innings of a first-class match...

Edited on, February 13, 2005, 9:24 PM GMT, by MasterBlaster.
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Old February 13, 2005, 08:46 PM
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Biddut is no doubt still the best. Nafis Iqbal/Rajin will probably be in the helm for now but Biddut is and will be an exception. Too bad that he decided to retire ( unsure if it is still true) from intl cricket for his Biman job training. Still cant belive, after his long absence, just when he was almost certain to retain his position,, he lost it due to his butt injury.
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Old February 14, 2005, 12:27 AM
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Amazing level of emotion, here. Some of us relate to Biddut as if he were a Bradman. But anyhow, and regardless, its his fitness and laziness that ultimately failed him. Not the BCB.

I'm sure he was a delight to watch, especially against Pakistan in 1999, but he has only himself to blame for his subsequent misfortune.
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Old February 15, 2005, 12:48 PM
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I used to think highly of these two. But Opee kinda gave it away with his indisciplined lifestyle.

I was not aware of Bidyut's fitness problems and have often wondered what happened to him.
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Old February 15, 2005, 01:01 PM
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Biddut is no doubt still the best. Nafis Iqbal/Rajin will probably be in the helm for now but Biddut is and will be an exception. Too bad that he decided to retire ( unsure if it is still true) from intl cricket for his Biman job training. Still cant belive, after his long absence, just when he was almost certain to retain his position,, he lost it due to his butt injury.
It was Sanowar who decided not to join National Team camp due to his Biman Job Training. Bidyut wanted to retire to get out of the Player Poll so that he can play at the corporate league to earn some money. If he stayed in the poll, it could have been hard for him to find a good team for enough money.
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Old February 15, 2005, 01:02 PM
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By the way, What does Opee do now?
I mean beside playing occassional cricket.....
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Old February 15, 2005, 01:04 PM
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Another point just came to my mind about Opee. After that Raman Lamba incident, I guess some sort of "guilty" (??) feelings casued his downturn in his performance. I recently read in an article that he was even out of cricket for about 6 months after the Raman Lamba incident

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Old February 15, 2005, 01:12 PM
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By the way, What does Opee do now?
I mean beside playing occassional cricket.....
I heard he's TV personality now.
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Old February 15, 2005, 01:16 PM
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By the way, What does Opee do now?
I mean beside playing occassional cricket.....
I heard he's TV personality now.
Funny!! He better be doing some Sports Show at TV
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Old February 15, 2005, 02:31 PM
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Another point just came to my mind about Opee. After that Raman Lamba incident, I guess some sort of "guilty" (??) feelings casued his downturn in his performance. I recently read in an article that he was even out of cricket for about 6 months after the Raman Lamba incident

Edited on, February 15, 2005, 6:04 PM GMT, by babubangla.
Actually he satrted playing for bd after that incident.... And the person who hold love for Bidut great going but i have to say one thing did u watch the WC99 games? man both opners where playing and missing like 5 out of 6. The commentetors where saying that the bowlers r so good for the openners that they fail to connect the ball hence edge/wkt didn't happen... I remember one time gough was trying hear from the ball (The ball that used in desable cricket where it makes sound so that batsman knows where it is)....

I think opi had better tech than bidut and i love them both for their past performace what ever it was they played with their heart out..

And they were both addicted at that time and both tried to come back for the last time but failed.....
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Old February 15, 2005, 08:17 PM
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By the way, What does Opee do now?
I mean beside playing occassional cricket.....
I heard he's TV personality now.
Funny!! He better be doing some Sports Show at TV
Actually interviewed a current player for Channel I or NTv. That was about it.
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Old February 15, 2005, 08:26 PM
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Amazing level of emotion, here. Some of us relate to Biddut as if he were a Bradman. But anyhow, and regardless, its his fitness and laziness that ultimately failed him. Not the BCB.

I'm sure he was a delight to watch, especially against Pakistan in 1999, but he has only himself to blame for his subsequent misfortune.
man, you are correct, but not fully correct. True Biddyut had his shortcoming, but the nonsense of the national selectors did a lot to have him not playing cricket now.
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Old February 16, 2005, 05:47 AM
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They lost their ways.........
Me too think it.
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