We need such 'revolutionary players of our own'

fwullah · #1 March 8, 2005, 12:27 PM

Again BBC Board

Come to think of it, is Bashar such a revolutionary player?

fwullah · #2 March 8, 2005, 12:31 PM

Or, is it Dav Whatmore - a 'revolutionary' personnel in Bangladesh cricket?

fwullah · #3 March 8, 2005, 12:33 PM

I guess Rafique - a great player (with the ball) can be such a revolutionary player - while chasing (with the bat).

But among these 3 personnels, I would vote for Whatmore over the others - ofcourse, neither of their career is finished as of yet (Whatmore's coaching career for Bangladesh, Bashar and Rafique's cricket playing career).

Fazal · #4 March 8, 2005, 12:39 PM

Are we talking about 'revolutionary player' or 'revolutionary cricket personnel' or 'revolutionary personnel' in general here?

based on that the choice will be changed.

Edited on, March 8, 2005, 5:39 PM GMT, by Fazal.

fwullah · #5 March 8, 2005, 01:02 PM

How about all of the above?

Fazal · #6 March 8, 2005, 01:27 PM

Ok, here are some of the candidates:

A) 'revolutionary player' :Salauddin, Niaz Morshed, Brojen Das

B) 'revolutionary cricket player' :Rakibul, Bashar or Rafique, Akram

C) 'revolutionary personnel' :Kazi Nazrul Islam, Sheikh Mujibur Rahman, Dr. Muhammad Yunus

D) 'revolutionary cricket personnel' :Richard McInnes, Dav, Saber Hossain

( I am pretty sure, I am missing some key figures)

Edited on, March 8, 2005, 6:30 PM GMT, by Fazal.

Fazal · #7 March 8, 2005, 01:33 PM

Now if you mean only Bangladeshis only then

D) 'revolutionary cricket personnel' :Saber Hossain, Ershad, Ashraful

*AsifTheManRahman* · #8 March 8, 2005, 01:34 PM

Ershad for his "fielding" (pun)? or am i missing something?

Edited on, March 8, 2005, 6:43 PM GMT, by AsifTheManRahman.
Reason: +(pun)

*AsifTheManRahman* · #9 March 8, 2005, 01:35 PM

i say we may have a revolutionary player in enamul some ten years from now. he may do for us what murali has done for sri lanka.

Fazal · #10 March 8, 2005, 01:38 PM

As far As I know, During Ershad there was key activities in Bangladesh Cricket Talent Development and he supported the cause.

I may be wrong though. Then please feel free to remove his name.

*AsifTheManRahman* · #11 March 8, 2005, 01:45 PM

in that case, i guess we're forgetting syed ashraful huq (unless that's the ash u already mentioned)

Fazal · #12 March 8, 2005, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AsifTheManRahman
in that case, i guess we're forgetting syed ashraful huq (unless that's the ash u already mentioned)

You are right. Ashraful is syed ashraful huq. I forgot his full name at that time.

*AsifTheManRahman* · #13 March 8, 2005, 01:53 PM

i think this is more of a qualitative, time dependant question than anything else. if you look at the pre test status era (without going too far backwards) i'd say akram khan played the role of a revolutionary player. if you go further back, it will be raquibul. if you look at the time when the first cricket board was set up, it would be ashraful. if you look at the years 99-00, it would be saber chowdhury. if you look at the post test status period, it's no-one. if you look ten years from now....oh well, i'm predicting it'll be enam.

oracle · #14 March 8, 2005, 02:09 PM

In terms of Bangladesh cricket players I would like to include test era cricketeers only. As such, it is Rafique at the moment- for being the nucleus and an evolving inspiration in the start of a long succesful Bangladesh tradition of SLA bowling (this I sincerely hope)

Glad to see that someone in the other board mentioned Qadir in the spin discussion.

Addendum- technically speaking I find it hard to include any Bangladesh players as revolutionary. When I think of revolutionary i think of Jardine, Worell, Kerry Packer ,(even someone like Saqlain Mushtaq -just for devising the doosra-a creative and revolutionary act) etc...., but alas had to include someone from Bangladesh. Hence, Rafique.

Edited on, March 8, 2005, 7:15 PM GMT, by oracle.

couger · #15 March 8, 2005, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AsifTheManRahman
Ershad for his "fielding" (pun)? or am i missing something?

Edited on, March 8, 2005, 6:43 PM GMT, by AsifTheManRahman.
Reason: +(pun)

Good one.

couger · #16 March 8, 2005, 08:45 PM

Are we talking about pioneering cricketer or revolutionery ones? I think all the player mentioned here are 'pioneering' cricketers in Bangladesh. A revolutionery player is one who (almost) singlehandedly changes the direction, philosophy, attidute and fortunes of a team. Kapil Dev, Imran Khan, Viv Richards and Richard Hadlee were players like this. I'm afraid we haven't had any yet.

thebest · #17 March 8, 2005, 10:36 PM

I think 'revolutionary cricket personnel' of Bangladesh should be the owner of Nirman. I should remember his name. But he sponsored the Nirman school cricket, that make cricket to go to grass root level. and we everybody forgot his name. Shame on us.

*AsifTheManRahman* · #18 March 8, 2005, 10:37 PM

yes i agree with you couger, and that's why i didn't mention anyone from the test status era, and said that enamul may be one in ten years. i'd say raquibul was a revolution at that time though (having represented the pkaistan squad). akram would be a revolution since where we are today is very much dependant on his innings against holland and how he led the team and that torunament.

syed ash is obviously a legend since without him, we wouldn't have a cricket board at all (well maybe someone else would've made it anyways, but you know what i mean).

Edited on, March 9, 2005, 3:38 AM GMT, by AsifTheManRahman.

babubangla · #19 March 8, 2005, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AsifTheManRahman
Ershad for his "fielding" (pun)? or am i missing something?

Edited on, March 8, 2005, 6:43 PM GMT, by AsifTheManRahman.
Reason: +(pun)

May be for fitness!!

babubangla · #20 March 8, 2005, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by thebest
I think 'revolutionary cricket personnel' of Bangladesh should be the owner of Nirman. I should remember his name. But he sponsored the Nirman school cricket, that make cricket to go to grass root level. and we everybody forgot his name. Shame on us.

That's a great comment!!

couger · #21 March 8, 2005, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AsifTheManRahman
syed ash is obviously a legend since without him, we wouldn't have a cricket board at all (well maybe someone else would've made it anyways, but you know what i mean).

Edited on, March 9, 2005, 3:38 AM GMT, by AsifTheManRahman.

Right.

babon · #22 March 9, 2005, 12:25 AM

As far as I remember Nirman owner is Z. Islam.

fwullah · #23 March 9, 2005, 01:08 AM

Yes, K.Z.Islam - Zai Zai Din had published an article on cricket organizers and KZ Islam's name (owner of Nirman) was the first one in that article on 'who are the men behind our test status' - ultimately (published during the year 2000)

reinausagi · #24 March 9, 2005, 03:40 AM

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Ershad for his "fielding" (pun)? or am i missing something?

Yes, I heard HME was quite a playah in his day. "If the pimp's in the crib ma..."

*AsifTheManRahman* · #25 March 9, 2005, 10:43 AM

he's still a playah