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Old March 11, 2005, 03:29 AM
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Default Winning Test Matches..

It has already been more than 5 years that we are playing Tests. What we have achieved so far, was more or less OK considering those 5 years being the very early years of our Test Cricket History. But it is about time we start understanding the TEST CRICKET thing in a little bit more detail and depth. It is about time we start thinking what improvements we need to make on our side to start Winning/Drawing test matches. The casual times/years are over... its time for some serious thoughts.

In my observation, the first innings total scored by both teams is obviously and most often the real determinant of the match result. Here are the first basic comparison between the 4 innings played by both teams and the outcome of the match:

Case-1: Possibly a Result
When one of the teams score big (450+) in first innings and the other comes up with smaller total (around 300, irrespective of which team is batting first)
Result -- The bigger scorer of 1st innings wins in most of the cases, sometimes it is a draw if the other side bat better in 2nd innings.

Case-2: Possibly a Draw
When both teams score big (450+) in their first innings..
Result The result most often comes out as a DRAW; in lesser occasions there is a result.

Case-3: Almost Surely a Result
When both teams score low (below 350) in their first innings..
Result Its almost certain that one of the teams will have to lose the game, because batting better in 2nd innings is always difficult. Draw is a rarity in these cases.

The point of all these breakdown is somewhat like this:
Bangladesh has to really start working very very hard on improving their test math 1st innings score. They have to keep scoring 400+ innings more often than they have been. That is almost the only practical way to get what we need to start getting: More Regular Draws plus Sometimes forcing the Opposition towards Defeat!

**Remember... our first Test Draw against a stronger nation (WI) came from a 400+ first innings score. Our first ever Test Victory (vs. ZIM) came from our biggest Test innings score of 488..

The good thing about it, is that when u score big in first innings, the batsmen are already in confident form when they start the second innings which helps them do better that time as well.

So, the straightforward words for BD can be like this:
"If u wana get anything +ve in the Ranking Table of Test Cricket... cross the 400 marks in First innings!!"

Best of luck BD!


Edited on, March 11, 2005, 1:31 PM GMT, by crickethorizon.
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Old March 11, 2005, 03:36 AM
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Overconfidence can be sometimes bad. In our inaugural test, our batsmen became overconfident after scoring 400 in first innings and threw their wickets away in the second innings, as a result we scored only around 90 in the 2nd innings. Draw was the most possible result after 1st innings score of both teams, but we practically handed over the match to India.

Edited on, March 11, 2005, 8:40 AM GMT, by Spitfire_x86.
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Old March 11, 2005, 05:04 AM
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Overconfidence can be sometimes bad. In our inaugural test, our batsmen became overconfident after scoring 400 in first innings and threw their wickets away in the second innings, as a result we scored only around 90 in the 2nd innings. Draw was the most possible result after 1st innings score of both teams, but we practically handed over the match to India.

Edited on, March 11, 2005, 8:40 AM GMT, by Spitfire_x86.
Agreed but the on the second innings of that match the pitch played a huge part as well.
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Old March 11, 2005, 05:04 AM
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And I think BD scored 190 runs in the second innings, but your point well taken.
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Old March 11, 2005, 08:10 AM
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Do you know something? Before we got test status, general people of Bangladesh - who are not mad cricket watchers (like me) - and not cricket players (either national/'A' team/club level/age group/simply street cricket players) did not understand or even heard about the common terms such as: 'following on', 'first innings lead', '5-day cricket', 'defeat or winning by an innings' etc. - now they do.

One big reason because of this is that people of middle-income level did not/ do not have access to cable tv, or basically, people grew up just hearing the radio commentary all around Bangladesh.

But now, courtesy of Bangladesh's test status and more recently, because of BTV's somewhat reluctant interest in Bangladesh's games have made it possible for those general people to learn these terms.

The only thing that they knew was (and still is) 'WORLD CUP' - and rules and regulations of One Day cricket.

So, thinking in that way, I would say that this is a huge improvement - a great marketing for Test cricket.
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Old March 11, 2005, 11:54 AM
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And I think BD scored 190 runs in the second innings, but your point well taken.
It was 91 bro...
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Old March 11, 2005, 12:00 PM
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There u go.....

India in Bangladesh, 2000/01, Only Test
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Old March 11, 2005, 03:58 PM
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Unfortunately.. those are the only 3 occasions that BD scored past 400 runs..

Vs. India, WI & ZIMs..
and among those 3 matches.... 2 gave us some points to add to our Test Ranking..

Records of The 3 Matches


Edited on, March 11, 2005, 9:06 PM GMT, by crickethorizon.
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Old March 15, 2005, 03:32 PM
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Alll the talks about the 'English Conditions' are because of the Brittleness of our batting in varied conditions and against varied type of bowling.. specially on bouncy wickets.

Our Pacers will be supported by the English conditions & hopefully our spinners will not do very bad either...

It's our batsmen who are the real source of worres!
After a good 3/4 monthes break from Good Standard cricket... it really is a matter of worry how we will find them in the vital ENG series..

BD should try to build patient 350+ (and if possible 400+) innings in both first and second innings..
Unfortunately... BD has been having Innings-Defeat results against bigger opponents (even in the very last series vs. top sides like NZ or India, before ZIMS)

..it can be said that BD is in an 'Innings-Defeat' track in Test Cricket.

So, first & foremost target should be to Play like the way they did in the 2nd Innings of the 2nd Test against ZIMs!!
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Old March 15, 2005, 06:41 PM
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It'll be a big task for our bowlers becoz the pitch is very much different from what we play in this sub-continent. So they need to bowl at the right areas, like McGrath does. There's a bit more bounce to those wickets so the bowlers can afford to pitch it up half a yard or more further, that way it can generate pace and movement from the wicket. Our spinners are a key and bowlers needs to use the slope in some of the English wickets!
Batsmen needs to be careful about shuffling too much on the crease. I noticed Aftab, Nafis have a tendency to shuffle a bit too much- they need to curb that. These conditions should suit the likes of Rajin and Ashraful simply becoz they wait till the last minute to hit the ball(although it might contradict with some of Ashraf's dismissal where he chased the balls and got out). Habibul should not play around his pads like he tends to do.
Fielding is one mark i'm looking forward becoz of the lush green outfields and the soft grass which would encourage the young players to dive about in the field!
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Old March 15, 2005, 07:57 PM
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And I think BD scored 190 runs in the second innings, but your point well taken.
It was 91 bro...
yeah, you're right.
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Old March 30, 2005, 12:54 PM
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Fielding is one mark i'm looking forward becoz of the lush green outfields and the soft grass which would encourage the young players to dive about in the field!
is it?
souns good..
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Old July 13, 2005, 05:37 AM
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Just bringing this topic back considering our Sri-Lankan tour ahead.

We are having good success in ODI's... but yet to have consistancy in Test Level. I wish the team can get some Test success this time (Possibly good Draws!).

Best of luck!
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