Next Debutant

[Eshen]

Three players in above poll are currently pushing their cases for the national team. Given how unstable our top order still is, I think Shamsur Rahman got the best chance.

I have to admit though I am in two minds whether selectors should bring in another debutant in the team before WC'11 or should stick with players that are already capped.

[MohammedC]

I see no khamba i mean poll...I see now. Shamsur Rahman Shuvo. He is an opener if he can bat at number 3 we may see him within a year.

[Gowza]

s.shuvo i think.

s.shuvo may take the place of either naeem or riyad if they don't pick things up (at this point it looks like naeem would be the one to get dropped rather than riyad). it's better to have a bowling allrounder that low in the order and both naeem and riyad are batting allrounders, whereas s.shuvo is a bowling allrounder and it just gives a bit more security to the bowling line-up imo.

for shamsur to get in he'd have to take either tamim, junaid, raqibul or ash's spot which i think will be tough atm. if junaid was to get dropped imrul would probably get a run before shamsur and if raqibul or ash are left out then naeem, riyad or mushy may get a promotion rather than bring in a new batsman. plus shamsur will have to compete with the likes of SN, alok and aftab when they're allowed back.

so i guess i'd say s.shuvo has the best chance, but the selectors haven't really been partial to him, unless there is injury i think it will be tough for anyone new to come into the batting or allrounder or spinning spots and this is before the ICLers come back into the fold which would make it even tougher. i think there is more of a chance for a new pacer to be debuted, not just because of all the injuries but because of the performances as well.

[Rifat]

I remember that Selectors mentioned about Shuvo during Sri Lankan Tour of Bangladesh. he wasn't selected because there wasn't anybody to be dropped.

another thing to note: Form is temporary, class is permanent. Usually what happens is the the Players enjoy amazing form but by the time they arrive at the national team, the form deteriorates and we see their average class and then the truth is exposed! That player simply doesn't belong with the elite teams...

if Shuvo is to come most probably he will replace Mehrab Hossain Jr., though unlikely since Mehrab has decent Test Experience under his belt. but for Other Formats, Mehrab will definitely be replaced and Shuvo will likely get his long awaited call.

Ths is EXCELLENT stuff from selectors...they are raising the bar for National Team entry => and this is due to decent cricketers rising to the occassion :) making it tough for players to enter even with top class performance whereas three years ago or so even a First Class Century was enough to give you a free ticket to an overseas tour. Sensible stuff from Selectors...I like :)

[wiseshah]

first i thought shamim mia is back with his poll

its a good poll Ehsen, like it.
though i voted for shamsur rahman, i think he will be perfect for 20/20 format (rokib, mehrab out)

but i agree with gowza---i think shohrawardi shuvo has more chances. because he is bowling allrounder and can replace naeem, mahmudullah, enam jr and even razzaq. so he has more chances.

[wiseshah]

is there any other player who should be included in this poll?

i cant remember any name atm. any hints from any body?

[jeesh]

That is definitely the case, its good for our cricket. Its no longer so easy to become a debutant. But we need to seriously think about grooming another spinner. Shakib has been terrific, but often we rely to much on him. Of course Razzak is there and so is Enamul Haque Jnr. But for some reason i feel neither of these two have been or will be able to fill the void left by Rafique. For that reason i voted for Shuvo.

[sbsash]

Shuhrawardi Shubho

[Murad]

There will be atleast 2 more debutants in few more months.

one of them will be shorwardi shuvo
other one will be a batsman

One of Riyad/Naeem will be dropped from the team. Riyad is more of a batting allrounder. His bowling is not that good. It was against WI Z team he did well so far. He struggled against Zimb team.

[Gowza]

That is definitely the case, its good for our cricket. Its no longer so easy to become a debutant. But we need to seriously think about grooming another spinner. Shakib has been terrific, but often we rely to much on him. Of course Razzak is there and so is Enamul Haque Jnr. But for some reason i feel neither of these two have been or will be able to fill the void left by Rafique. For that reason i voted for Shuvo.

and there are some good prospects such as s.shuvo, nabil samad, saju datta, saqlain sajib, shabbir rahman and i guess you could include nasir hossain even if he is an allrounder. i agree that i don't think razzak or enamul will fill the void, but maybe they'll surprise us.

[Rifat]

There will be atleast 2 more debutants in few more months.

one of them will be shorwardi shuvo
other one will be a batsman

One of Riyad/Naeem will be dropped from the team. Riyad is more of a batting allrounder. His bowling is not that good. It was against WI Z team he did well so far. He struggled against Zimb team.


I kinda disagree I see signs of Promise in his bowling :)

Remember, in Zimbabwe, it was in flat Batting tracks, where even Shakib struggled in a
couple of matches

[MohammedC]

^^^ Did anyone notice Riyad was trying to bowl doosra in Zimbabwe.

[jeesh]

Riyad has improved a lot over the last year or so. He definitely will stay. Yes the track was not favourable for spin, but see guys like Utseya and Price were excellent. The big difference was Utseya and Price used a lot of variation and guile which neither Riyad or Naeem has. Lets give Riyad some time. Already he has improved overall as a player. If he spends more time on his bowling you never know.

[Gowza]

shakib should learn to bowler the doosra, it's always good to have another variation. i reckon other than the pacer spots naeem's spot is the most up in the air atm, he and riyad basically play the same role but riyad is out playing naeem atm and with the bowling having a bit of trouble recently the most logical thing would be to drop a batting allrounder for a bowling allrounder to sure up the bowling.

[bujhee kom]

Arrey bhais, where is multiple option choice? I wanted vote for Suhwardy Shuvo and Marshall Ayub and Shamsur Shuvo more, I mean others! But the poll only took one man!

[nycpro96]

I think Shamsur and Shuvo will both be debuted in the near future.

[fuzzy]

shuvo shouldn't becouse we got 2 many of his type.. he is left arm orthodox allrounder

[Nadim]

Got feeling either Shuve1 or Shuvo2 will be next debutant but somehow i voted for my fav. player Marshall Ayub:D

[Gowza]

shuvo shouldn't becouse we got 2 many of his type.. he is left arm orthodox allrounder

shuvo can come in as either a specialist bowler or a bowling allrounder. i wouldn't be against swapping shuvo for naeem, i'm a fan of naeem but it's pointless to have 2 batting allrounders and have them batting at 7 and 8, even moreso when the bowling is struggling. riyad is doing better than naeem, play shuvo instead of naeem and the team is more balanced.

it would be great for naeem to be in the team but imo he has to be played primarily as a batsman and there isn't really batsmen to drop atm.

[yaseer]

As the domestic season coming up, all of them need to show their form again to come to the national team. ICLers will also be competing. So, things have changed.

I think Shohrowardy Shuvo has a real chance in Test cricket in home condition. As selectors may find Razzak unfit for Test cricket and we can see the inclusion of Shuvo. Again, it will be tough as Enamul is there with all his experience.

I feel Shamsur and Marshall need to wait a bit. All depends how they go in this domestic season. I feel Shahriar Nafees going to push hard this season and eventually come back to the team. So, there goes one place for a batsman. Don't forget Aftab for ODIs as well. Interesting fight ahead!! eventually good for our team.

[Fazal]

I like both shovus. I wouldn't mind if the both get some opportunity in near future.

[yaseer]

shuvo can come in as either a specialist bowler or a bowling allrounder. i wouldn't be against swapping shuvo for naeem, i'm a fan of naeem but it's pointless to have 2 batting allrounders and have them batting at 7 and 8, even moreso when the bowling is struggling. riyad is doing better than naeem, play shuvo instead of naeem and the team is more balanced.

it would be great for naeem to be in the team but imo he has to be played primarily as a batsman and there isn't really batsmen to drop atm.

ya, have same feeling about Nayeem. Its been almost two years of International cricket for Nayeem, still he has not score any half-century yet. One can argue that Nayeem has not got enough chances. Here lies the question, then why are we playing a batsman at that position where he is not getting chance to bat at all in 2 years time, rather just bowling few overs in match. We can always play a bowler there and get better service. Nayeem's batting skills is not an addition in our team anyway.

Promote Nayeem in the top order, play him as a batsman and see what he is capable of.

[Zunaid]

To be fair to Nayeem - he has not been given a consistently long enough run to prove his worth. However, I was surprised that Nayeem got the call ahead of Shuvo. I have my money on Shuvo as the other World class player for Bangladesh.

[One World]

I have not seen any of those players in action. Would not be wise to elect without knowing their SWOT. Reading newspapers can be misleading so is domestic performance, e.g., Shezan.

[Imteaz]

Is it possible to say when our selectors are so unpredictable? :)

[Gowza]

ya, have same feeling about Nayeem. Its been almost two years of International cricket for Nayeem, still he has not score any half-century yet. One can argue that Nayeem has not got enough chances. Here lies the question, then why are we playing a batsman at that position where he is not getting chance to bat at all in 2 years time, rather just bowling few overs in match. We can always play a bowler there and get better service. Nayeem's batting skills is not an addition in our team anyway.

Promote Nayeem in the top order, play him as a batsman and see what he is capable of.

yeah that's pretty much it, we still don't really know what naeem is capable of with the bat and his batting is meant to be his strength.

[Omio]

Marshall Ayub. This guy has been so consistent now a days for our academy team. But it would be better if he can play more 2 years for BCB academy team and gather more experience. I think he will be another good middle order batsman with Shakib.

[Gowza]

there are enough talent surrounding the national team now that guys like marshall ayub, rony talukder and nasir hossain can actually pay their dues and do their time in domestic cricket before coming to the national team. the batting is covered with tamim, junaid, ash, shakib, riyad, naeem, mushy, imrul, mehrab, NI, shamsur, SN, alok, and aftab. i'd even be willing to give batsmen like nazmus sadat and nazimuddin more chances unless the youngsters have really really proven themselves.

spin allrounders are covered with shakib, naeem, riyad, shuvo and if they have to mehrab and alok can do those roles as well.

pacers are covered even with the current injuries but just to list all the pacers that are around there is mash, rasel, rubel, robin, robiul, sajidul, ziaur, tahla, nazmul, dollar, sumon saha, maybe even delwar hossain (subashis probably needs more domestic/academy/A team time).

keepers are covered with mushy, dhiman, saghir so mithun can spend a little longer developing (he might play t20s but otherwise the national team is covered for keepers atm).

for spinners we have enamul, razzak, shakib, shuvo, nabil samad possibly saqlain sajib and saju datta.

the only area where the national team isn't covered atm is pace allrounders, there aren't any test quality ones and reza is probably the only ODI one, nazmul hossain milon is a maybe.

unless a youngster has shown exceptional talent, exceptional application and exceptional consistency i don't see why we can't give them more development time than we have with previous groups of players.

[Eshen]

I agree with Gowza - there is no point having a batsman slash part time spinner at #8. Once Mashrafe returns, he should be the #8. That means someone from Riyad and Naeem will have to be benched, making way for another specialist spinner. Razzak should be a sure selection if fully fit, so the competition will be between Enamul and Suhrawardi (and Mosharraf, when he becomes eligible for selection) for the other specialist spinner slot.

[dash]

I agree with Gowza - there is no point having a batsman slash part time spinner at #8. Once Mashrafe returns, he should be the #8. That means someone from Riyad and Naeem will have to be benched, making way for another specialist spinner. Razzak should be a sure selection if fully fit, so the competition will be between Enamul and Suhrawardi (and Mosharraf, when he becomes eligible for selection) for the other specialist spinner slot.

enam will be dropped for razzaq, if any one from riad.naeem is to be dropped it has to be for a pacer

[raf-stah]

unless injury takes people out, i dont see why we need to make a debut.

making debuts shudnt be an immediate aim. shud be done wen called for.

[Nocturnal]

good thread Eshen.
nice summary Gowza!

[Nadim]

S. Shuve should replace Enamul in Zim series...

[kalpurush]

S. Shuve should replace Enamul in Zim series...
Razzak will be returning, thus...;)

[Eshen]

Although a very consistent performer in domestic leagues, Shuvo's stats for A-team or the academy team hardly show any promise.

I think it's very possible that current U/19 spin spin quartet - Shabbir Rahman (LB), Nur Hossain (LB), Mahmudul Hasan (OB), and Shaker Ahmed (SLA) will outshine both Shuvo and Enamul within next couple of years. Shabbir, Nur, and Mahmud can be also considered bowling allrounders.

[Tigers_eye]

S Shuvo is an SLA. We have 3, Shakib, Enam, and Raj. So I think the other Shuvo (Shamsur) has better chance.

[abu2abu]

it depends on what sort of debutants we are talking about. I can see the likes of Mithun (or maybe even rony talukdar) debuting in T20 cricket and perhaps Shamsur rahman in ODIs. In tests I think bowlers are more likely to debut, so maybe we'll get a look at Shuvo or Subashish Roy.

[abz..+]

insallah
Suhrawardi Shuvo will be the next debutant

[abu2abu]

Gowza rightly points out Nabil samad. He's a fine prospect and could debut soon...

[IanW]

Team is doing fine. I wouldnt pick anyone

[AsifTheManRahman]

I have to admit though I am in two minds whether selectors should bring in another debutant in the team before WC'11 or should stick with players that are already capped.
Stick with the current players, swap with ICL-ers if required. No debutantes unless hell freezes over.

[WarWolf]

I don't want to see any new batsman. New players like Riad and Nayeem should be given more chances. It would be a bad practice to continue if we drop them and bring new batsmen.

But we need to try new pace bowers and leg spinners with good potentials. Bowling dept is really a matter of worry now these days. SLAs won't win many matches for us.

[mahbubH]

some what depends on the next new set selectors among other things ....

[shajib14]

I prefer both Sohrawardy Shuvo and Marshall Ayub. But had to vote for Shuvo as only one can be voted.

[_Habib_]

I'd like to see Marshall Ayub make his debut for BD, he is a good allrounder and averages 31 with the bat and 29 with the ball in FC.. but he is a spinner and we already have 2 spinners in Mehrab Hossain and Shaikb Al Hasan.

[chol_bd123]

We need to experiment with new players in the upcoming tour against Zimbabwe. If they preform well, they are likely to be picked for matches against the G8.

The selectors need too experiment a lot to make the best team possible for WC 2011. Because I don't want to see players playing one or two games and then play in the World Cup.

BTW, our team needs to find a good pacer like Mashrafe fast. I don't want any of the English players to face the new Rasel. He used to be good, but these days he is useless.

[Catskills]

Shuvo is the only viable debutant I see at this moment. Besides, his inclusion is overdue. We need to see how well he performs in the international matches. The selectors must give him a chance to see his skills, otherwise bias will prevail.

[Nafi]

BTW, our team needs to find a good pacer like Mashrafe fast. I don't want any of the English players to face the new Rasel. He used to be good, but these days he is useless.

I agree, experiment with Dolar, Robin, Rasel, Nazmul and even Shahadat (if he has improved his disclipine)

I want a good Pace trio formed before the Tri-series and against England & Wales

[jeesh]

Shuvo is the only viable debutant I see at this moment. Besides, his inclusion is overdue. We need to see how well he performs in the international matches. The selectors must give him a chance to see his skills, otherwise bias will prevail.

I thought he should have been called up instead of Enamul Haque Jnr in the Zimbabwe series. The ODI format doesnt seem to suit Enamul. So in situation where Razzak is not available i think our selectors should try Shuvo.

[jawaherul]

Arrey bhais, where is multiple option choice? I wanted vote for Suhwardy Shuvo and Marshall Ayub and Shamsur Shuvo more, I mean others! But the poll only took one man!


B.K. vai, apnar display pic e ki apnar shashurir pic naki ? apnar krira-premi mon er upor onar ottachar er kotha joto dur shunsi, ei face dekhe mone hochche, she hoite pare. just kidding vai, don't take it to mind.


btw, i know it's a bit too early, but i think anamul/enamul from the current under 19 team can be a very good prospect in future. unfortunately, i don't go on the stats very often, but this guy has class in his batting. he knows every kind of shots in the book, i guess pull being his personal favorite and is surely a treat to watch him on song. alas!! even after being frustrated so many times by ash, i cannot escape loving and favoring class than anything else in batting. only thing i have against anamul is he needs time to develop more temperament. he still has a habit of throwing away good starts by him.
btw, he is a decent wicket keeper also, and bats in the top order.


among the three player, i guess shuvo has the best chance, since i don't see any player in the current team filling the void made by rafique. (even, i think after the departure of rafique, razzak had lost his style, a calm presense of rafique and occaisional clever tips is what is missing.) marshal ayub has also impressed me, he can be a good number three batsman i guess. but shamsur , i think is not prepared yet and needs a bit time, say one more year.

[bujhee kom]

Arrey dear Jawaherul bhai, apni akebare thik bolechen.....amar shashuri mohilar mathae pura dosh, matha pura kharap, asholeo, pure mental patient, amar lifem pura borbad hoe gese re bhai!