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November 4, 2018, 06:45 AM
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No Sylhet
I have said it before, Bangladesh should not play in Sylhet. The wicket is of a foreign nature, not a typical Bangladeshi wicket. Pacers enjoy bowling here, especially if you can extract bounce. Foreign players can consider playing in Sylhet as a blessing.
I don't mind couple of T20s here and there, and our U-19 primilarly playing all their matches in Sylhet.
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November 4, 2018, 06:47 AM
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The big question is, if pacers enjoy bowling here why are we playing only one specialist pacer in this test match? If we cannot understand own conditions in this stadium then who will
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November 4, 2018, 06:52 AM
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Chatara is quite tall, and extracts bounce well, has decent pace. If you are a decent pace bowler you would love bowling in Sylhet. Jarvis played like 2-3 seasons in county cricket before coming back to Zimbabwe side, he took advantage of the conditions. You see, the wicket also offers something for the spinners, hence the team management thought we will kill Zimbabwe with our spinners. They neglected the fact that most of our players are s.hit against pacers... a bit of movement, bounce is enough to unsettle our lineup.
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November 4, 2018, 06:56 AM
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Why afraid of playing in your home?
Be bold. Grab the bull by its horns!
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November 4, 2018, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by aklemalp
Why afraid of playing in your home?
Be bold. Grab the bull by its horns!
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Problem is the players and management are bolods (castrated bulls)
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November 4, 2018, 08:20 AM
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Not the grounds fault but the managements and players incompetence
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November 4, 2018, 09:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rifat_02
The big question is, if pacers enjoy bowling here why are we playing only one specialist pacer in this test match? If we cannot understand own conditions in this stadium then who will
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Even more is if this was unexpected, why not give the other pacer you picked more overs to bowl?
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November 4, 2018, 10:13 AM
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The one pacer we did play wasn't int'l level but para level.
Sylhet wicket being like that is good news. We should use it for development and getting used to overseas conditions. Gradually, more and more games should be played there.
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November 4, 2018, 10:35 AM
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Oshane Thomas and Kumar Roach will murder us boys.
Thomas bhia clocking 144/145 kph consistently, and we all know how pacy Roach is.
Tough times coming ahead. Hopefully we don't play any test matches in Sylhet.
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November 4, 2018, 12:14 PM
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Subhasish Roy. 6ft, big broad shoulders, wicket to wicket bowler can bowl 140clicks, is the ideal bowler for BD test team on a pitch which offers something for pacers if you bowl well and have some pace.
I remember during the last NZ awat series the NZ commies were highly praising Roy and liked the look of him as a bowler, who bowls a heavy ball too.
But to BD selectors, unless you take 5fer in your first innings of test then you don’t make it again. But the sad part is, they’ll happily give Rubel and Shafiul chances after chances hoping the results will come, or expecting a good performance.
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November 4, 2018, 12:20 PM
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I kind of agree with the op. For test matches, SICS, seems alien conditions for BD cricket team. There’s some bounce/carry in the wicket, there’s uneven bounce time to time too, spinners can get bounce and movements too. It’s not a flat wicket nor a rank turner. they’ve read the pitch wrong. Plus with the red ball, when you do all the shinning stuffs, it can get some movements even on flattest of wickets. So here, Zimbabwe bowlers being taller obviously as BD playing one pacer Rahi (5ft 10), no Taskin, no Roy, even Shahadat could’ve done well here. Ziaur Rahman anyone? He had some match winning performance with the ball once in Zimbabwe. This wicket is like that one.
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November 4, 2018, 12:28 PM
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Also, what might play into making it alien conditions for them. The location and stadium. It’s a unique stadium in South asia, with rolling hills surrounded, hill/grass bank, tea gardens outside and very very green. Coming into the stadium the vibe they’ll get is different, unlike going into SBNCS and Zacs, same old typical. But playing test at SICS, it won’t give them the comfortable same old typic vibes. Hence why maybe they’re not exactly feeling comfortable in their comfort zones and feel foreign to this whole location of the playing ground.
That’s just me getting the vibes from what I’ve seen of them playing at sics so far. I’m not saying this is the case, entirely.
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November 4, 2018, 01:18 PM
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They need to play more games there if anything, we're going to be shite in overseas, if we cant even handle unique pitches at home.
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November 4, 2018, 01:50 PM
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"Nachte na janle uthan baka"
Like Chatara suggested, our batsmen came in the match with one-day mindset, didn't respect the opposition, got out playing unnecessary shots.
Fault also goes to our moron selectors who pick players for the Test team based on ODI performances.
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November 5, 2018, 08:06 AM
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Sylhets fine. They deserve international cricket. You want to blame something, start with the players.
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November 5, 2018, 09:20 AM
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You mean yes. Playing there or in alien places has been a problem for the side, and it will only benefit them. Playing and winning across all venues is the target now. You can't just play in one or two stadiums.
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November 5, 2018, 11:05 AM
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Oh I want to be a programmer but I do not want to learn coding - you can stereotype 99% of BD youth
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November 5, 2018, 11:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SportingBD
I have said it before, Bangladesh should not play in Sylhet. The wicket is of a foreign nature, not a typical Bangladeshi wicket. Pacers enjoy bowling here, especially if you can extract bounce. Foreign players can consider playing in Sylhet as a blessing.
I don't mind couple of T20s here and there, and our U-19 primilarly playing all their matches in Sylhet.
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Strongly disagree. a true world class team thrive, survive and excel at any conditions and challenges thrown at them. For Bangladesh to be considered a world class team, they have to get used to these conditions. We should be thankful that such conditions exist in Sylhet. Next time Bangladesh travels to places like England/New Zealand/South Africa/Zimbabwe, we should play a few matches in Sylhet.
please ignore this message If you are happy with being ranked #9 in tests and current selection/thought process...
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November 5, 2018, 11:15 AM
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Based on what I’ve seen BD done at sics, the t20 against SL, this match. Look uncomfortable but then again this will help them overseas as conditions here little more bouncy, good all rounded wickets, something for spinners, but no every ball spins or bounces, or swings but there’s something on offer if the pacers bowl right areas. BD had one pacer and a AR gentle medium, no genuine fast bowler, so won’t know what a BD pacer say Taskin, Roy, Ebadat, Khaled, or even Rubel could’ve done on this track with the new ball. Jarvis and Chatara were moving it...
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November 5, 2018, 11:19 AM
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From another point of view: using cricket to portray Bangladesh to the whole world is important. I think Sylhet and its surroundings makes Bangladesh as a country look nicer.
I am non Sylheti and have a soft corner for the place as I used to spent a few summers in my youth travelling there to my friends house and have great memories. Apart from that my inlaws are from there so i have a forced bias there.
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November 5, 2018, 11:20 AM
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Quote:
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Sylhets fine. They deserve international cricket. You want to blame something, start with the players.
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What the op meant was test at SICS. But fine for LOIS at SICS.
But in truth, it’s not the wicket or venue, it was poor batting with wrong technique.
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November 5, 2018, 11:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by adamnsu
From another point of view: using cricket to portray Bangladesh to the whole world is important. I think Sylhet and its surroundings makes Bangladesh as a country look nicer.
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Very true.
Since I was in my early teens I had this wish to visit South Africa. Internet was not common then in the 90s, and I had not much idea of the amazing sights in that country.
What triggered my wish was watching the Newlands stadium and the surroundings.
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November 5, 2018, 12:58 PM
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Sylhet International Cricket Stadium - SICS (for short). Is beautiful, but it can be more beautiful if they do some more work around the stadium. The green hill is lacking grass, it needs to be protected from the sides, the stands are bit low the bottom tier, it could’ve been bit higher to start with. One side has a single tier with no roof, why does it have to be all rounded same looking stands in BD?
It been better if the was some gaps in between one side, make it bit more international looking, bit like some windies/sa or even the csk stadium.
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November 5, 2018, 02:47 PM
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If the pitch is pace friendly then why are we playing with only ONE pacer? Makes zero sense
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November 5, 2018, 03:37 PM
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Sylhetis think they are BD's California. SMBL
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