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Game-1 goes to ZIMs : Perfect exploitation of opponent’s weakness!
Yes... that is exactly the words to be used as concluding remarks for the BD-ZIM match played yesterday.
In short... at the beginning of each and every series, BD’s greatest weakness remains to be a foe that is within themselves-‘brainless complacency’. Its like “ya well...we’ve owned them before...so we’re gonna do it again nomatta wht!” or “well...BD aint no minnow anymore...so who dare wipe us out...?!”. And its only after the first few brutal hits on the stomach that they start to wake up smell the coffee.
The interesting thing is...Utseya took a very smart step at the beginning of the series by declaring themselves as ‘underdogs’ and thus feeding that very complex syndrome of BD and he seems to have been very successful in giving the whole BD team a strange but false sense of ‘superiorism’ which ultimately worked perfectly!
Hats off to Utseya... he has started his Ashes with perfect diplomacy!
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October 27, 2009, 10:30 PM
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Beyond exploiting complacency they have also benefited from well crafted strategies on how to deal with each and every one of our players. They also seem better prepared to face our spin attack this time. Notice how the likes of Matsikinyeri and Chigumbura were staying away from getting caught in front
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October 27, 2009, 11:11 PM
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Don't blame so early. Somehow, if BD win the series than we will start to compare them with world legend again. We are not a nation who learns from previous experience. It goes for all the 15 crore people. We faced this kind of situation many times. ODI WC 2003, Losing to Ireland 2007, Lost to
Ireland in T20 WC 2009 many more.
Even let them win in the 2nd match, we will start opening thread by telling "He is the best player of the world".
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October 27, 2009, 11:23 PM
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Same Headline: "Perfect exploitation of opponent’s weakness!"
One more point to note:- It seemed that our batsman were restricted / instructed not to play the pull or hook shot to the short balls, and Zimbabwe bowlers & their game plan was to force us on our backfoot.
So, our whole gameplan has to change while batting - We have to start playing those pull or hook shot again, and I believe only Md. Ashraful can and Shakib Al Hassan at times can play these shots. The rest of the players are unable to play these 2 shots as perfectly as they can.
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October 27, 2009, 11:27 PM
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True. But will all these suggestions work? Don't think so............
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October 27, 2009, 11:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ahmed_B
Yes... that is exactly the words to be used as concluding remarks for the BD-ZIM match played yesterday.
In short... at the beginning of each and every series, BD’s greatest weakness remains to be a foe that is within themselves-‘brainless complacency’. Its like “ya well...we’ve owned them before...so we’re gonna do it again nomatta wht!” or “well...BD aint no minnow anymore...so who dare wipe us out...?!”. And its only after the first few brutal hits on the stomach that they start to wake up smell the coffee.
The interesting thing is...Utseya took a very smart step at the beginning of the series by declaring themselves as ‘underdogs’ and thus feeding that very complex syndrome of BD and he seems to have been very successful in giving the whole BD team a strange but false sense of ‘superiorism’ which ultimately worked perfectly!
Hats off to Utseya... he has started his Ashes with perfect diplomacy!
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Spot on! Utseya indeed a clever one!
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October 27, 2009, 11:52 PM
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I wont give credit to Zimbabwe fully. Its mostly our Batsmen responsible for the lose. and its not just random. Its been years we are observing some typical problems occurring again n again with this Sidons preferable line up:
Junayed Siddiqye: the loveliest one in this line up for Siidons. Since when did we see him playing consistently and actually a good innings.Siddons backs him as promising a guy and he looks so. but hasn't proved to ensure good support him to be enlisted as permanent opener. Shahreer Nafees can be a better opener instead of him since he is kinda Zimbabwe specialist and selectors should had consider this fact. If someone say Zunayed is our permanent opener along with Tamim, then its totally wrong. more god guys r waiting and deserve to open.
Alok Kapali played well in last domestic T-20 league followingly after brilliant performance in ICL. He is to be the first choice in this series. but copying Indian policy blindly BCB wasting his career and making us deprived of watching some easy win against Zim.
come on, Zim is not test playing country and we have lost against them? anything else to portray the crisis? Our habit is if we win next game we will forget everything that took place today.
What the guy named Rakib al hasan doing in the team? even I bet rajin saleh could be better option. (lolz) what if Farhad Reza with extra advantages of blowing? what about Aftab Ahmed? ooH!! OH !! They are in cooling period!! they need to be cooled while this line up will ensure some freaky lose against non-test playing nation! eeaaah Indian policy rules \m/
T-20 is not outer space cricket. Guys who play T-2o can play other version of crickets. tagging some one T-20 players and suggesting them to come back to the team according to cooling period make no sense. If we talk about fitness then hey know that Sakib wasn't fit in this game... not every player in the team are fit 100% . We are not Aussi with lots of good players waiting in the side bench sot that selectors can vastly thin about fitness!! even what Rofique showed in final match in domestic level can be good example of those player's (ICL) fitness if we worry of fitness:S
seriously we should take bold decision.
sooooh
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October 27, 2009, 11:55 PM
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Excellent post. Dr Ahmed_b.
I wonder if something called the "Incentive Factor" plays part in it too. Now I am not certain as to the average pitch score of SBNS, but if it was any of those frickin G-8 contries, then BD would have worked twice their donkeys off for a better match.
Tachilyo kore korei shalara dobaise amake sharajibon....lol
No seriously, when will they ever learn their lessons that every game is a learning experience and a fertile bedrock for making records. If they ever wanna be like the Aussies or Saffers then they need to treat each and every opponent just like they would want to be treated themselves by the others.
Absolutely unfrickinpardonable sins were from Tamim, Shakib and Ash. Junaid, I lost all hope in him and his statistical average plus failure to create any match winning performances failed any inspiration for me. On the other hand, similar loose shots Tamim, Shak and Ash were culpable off shouldn't have caused their demise given their experiences. Absolutely unpardonable.
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October 28, 2009, 12:04 AM
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what kind of extraordinary performance did you see from alok kapali in T20 tournament to earn him a spot in the nation team so quickly. other than getting some wickets which i bet were all batsmans trying to hit him out of the park i didn't see anything too extraordinary, i'm not kapali hater, but i don't see what kapali's absence has to do with our lost. so let me get this straight you are saying if the ex ICL player's were in the team we wouldn't have lost this game. well i guess ahmed bhai better change the thread title "zim won because bangladesh had no ICL player in their team".
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October 28, 2009, 12:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by magic boy
I wont give credit to Zimbabwe fully. Its mostly our Batsmen responsible for the lose. and its not just random. Its been years we are observing some typical problems occurring again n again with this Sidons preferable line up:
Junayed Siddiqye: the loveliest one in this line up for Siidons. Since when did we see him playing consistently and actually a good innings.Siddons backs him as promising a guy and he looks so. but hasn't proved to ensure good support him to be enlisted as permanent opener. Shahreer Nafees can be a better opener instead of him since he is kinda Zimbabwe specialist and selectors should had consider this fact. If someone say Zunayed is our permanent opener along with Tamim, then its totally wrong. more god guys r waiting and deserve to open.
Alok Kapali played well in last domestic T-20 league followingly after brilliant performance in ICL. He is to be the first choice in this series. but copying Indian policy blindly BCB wasting his career and making us deprived of watching some easy win against Zim.
come on, Zim is not test playing country and we have lost against them? anything else to portray the crisis? Our habit is if we win next game we will forget everything that took place today.
What the guy named Rakib al hasan doing in the team? even I bet rajin saleh could be better option. (lolz) what if Farhad Reza with extra advantages of blowing? what about Aftab Ahmed? ooH!! OH !! They are in cooling period!! they need to be cooled while this line up will ensure some freaky lose against non-test playing nation! eeaaah Indian policy rules \m/
T-20 is not outer space cricket. Guys who play T-2o can play other version of crickets. tagging some one T-20 players and suggesting them to come back to the team according to cooling period make no sense. If we talk about fitness then hey know that Sakib wasn't fit in this game... not every player in the team are fit 100% . We are not Aussi with lots of good players waiting in the side bench sot that selectors can vastly thin about fitness!! even what Rofique showed in final match in domestic level can be good example of those player's (ICL) fitness if we worry of fitness:S
seriously we should take bold decision.
sooooh
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Cannot Agree Fully..............
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October 28, 2009, 03:08 AM
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spot on! Utseya indeed a clever one!
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October 28, 2009, 05:11 AM
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Plus our captain Shakib al Hasan complemented Utseya saying we still can win 4-1 margin. Bravo Shakib!
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October 28, 2009, 06:19 AM
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Plus our captain Shakib al Hasan complemented Utseya saying we still can win 4-1 margin. Bravo Shakib!
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I think someone is letting all the hype about them go to there heads
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October 28, 2009, 06:53 AM
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Zimbabwe bowlers used the situation well.It was perfect situation to bowl just a bit faster pitch then normal Bangladeshi pitch with some grass.New ball bowlers extracted some swing.Bowled short of length delivery invited the batsman to do mistake and our batsman did it.
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October 28, 2009, 08:24 AM
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Exploitation? What are you guys going to say after the second match? Can't hide behind that word again.
The actual word is under cooked. And that is the reason we are having this talk now.
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i think someone is letting all the hype about them go to there heads
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110% correct.
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October 28, 2009, 08:49 AM
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I think someone is letting all the hype about them go to there heads
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I think someone are actually thinking they are better than someone else only because they won one game. Where there is a 16-5 result in favor of someone in the last 21 games. No need to put "someone" ahead of "someone".
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October 28, 2009, 08:59 AM
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Doubtful news reports -
1. Tamim saying, if possible will make 5 centuries in 5 matches.
2. Utseya calling this "Ashes" for him.
3. Shakib saying, we can still win it 4-1.
No real ground why any of the above will be uttered by those responsible people. Reporting fallacy at it's best?
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I know the link. I was pointing towards the weirdness of such claim by the reporter.
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October 28, 2009, 10:08 AM
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we need to win next match
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we got such talented batsmans..tamim/junayed/ash/sakib/tamim/mushy/
we got such talented players...riyad/naeem
we got such talented six hitters..dollar mahmud
we got such talented spinners... razzak mamu
we got such talented malinga...rubel hossain
eshtill we know how to lose
oou now u gonna say, yo homie, u r damn wrong...he not talented omuk not talented tomuk not talented...or we can't find any better replacement than him....blah blah
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Actually Aftab would've just thrown his wicket away after scoring a quick 20+ innings, so that wouldn't have helped. He's overrated.
Quote:
Originally Posted by magic boy
I wont give credit to Zimbabwe fully. Its mostly our Batsmen responsible for the lose. and its not just random. Its been years we are observing some typical problems occurring again n again with this Sidons preferable line up:
Junayed Siddiqye: the loveliest one in this line up for Siidons. Since when did we see him playing consistently and actually a good innings.Siddons backs him as promising a guy and he looks so. but hasn't proved to ensure good support him to be enlisted as permanent opener. Shahreer Nafees can be a better opener instead of him since he is kinda Zimbabwe specialist and selectors should had consider this fact. If someone say Zunayed is our permanent opener along with Tamim, then its totally wrong. more god guys r waiting and deserve to open.
Alok Kapali played well in last domestic T-20 league followingly after brilliant performance in ICL. He is to be the first choice in this series. but copying Indian policy blindly BCB wasting his career and making us deprived of watching some easy win against Zim.
come on, Zim is not test playing country and we have lost against them? anything else to portray the crisis? Our habit is if we win next game we will forget everything that took place today.
What the guy named Rakib al hasan doing in the team? even I bet rajin saleh could be better option. (lolz) what if Farhad Reza with extra advantages of blowing? what about Aftab Ahmed? ooH!! OH !! They are in cooling period!! they need to be cooled while this line up will ensure some freaky lose against non-test playing nation! eeaaah Indian policy rules \m/
T-20 is not outer space cricket. Guys who play T-2o can play other version of crickets. tagging some one T-20 players and suggesting them to come back to the team according to cooling period make no sense. If we talk about fitness then hey know that Sakib wasn't fit in this game... not every player in the team are fit 100% . We are not Aussi with lots of good players waiting in the side bench sot that selectors can vastly thin about fitness!! even what Rofique showed in final match in domestic level can be good example of those player's (ICL) fitness if we worry of fitness:S
seriously we should take bold decision.
sooooh
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October 28, 2009, 11:43 AM
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That's a bit arrogant, specially when you are down 0-1. He should've jsut said we can still win the series and should focus on making it 1-1 first.
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