what's the point of using only 1 pacer in 3rd odi

[djnaved]

we are much better team than zimbabwe........in skill, experience..etc

so why we couldn't try some experiments against zimbabwe?

think like this way, if u a tryout a new pace bowler against zimbabwe in 3rd odi, u can see whether that bowler can pick up wickets or not.....or that bowler could take couple of wickets, and then he could build up his confidence level(remember we are having problems with pacers).......the moronic team management, added another spinner instead of another pacer..........in cricket, u got to gamble and take challenges.......zimbabwe is not a better team than us, they are so weak in spin........yes they are weak.......but it's the right chance to do some experiments......yes the only valuable time u can do experiment and take challenges.........can u play with 1 pacer against teams like india,australia, pakistan, South Africa? can u give bowlers like rubel hosen a chance to play the match against india/australia?....yes u may, but u have to think twice whether he is going to play or not........against teams like zimbabwe......"hmm boss, o khelbe chinta koren na"

also the junayed thingy...........he got loads of chances.......and still JS and the three gangtas think that he is nice......my question is that he flopped the first two odis, why didn't u tryout a new opening batsman in 3rd odi?

if we can't do experiment/take challenges against team like zimbabwe.........so are we gonna do that against top-class teams?

instead of looking forward, we are looking backward!

[Tigers_eye]

Originally Posted by djnaved
we are much better team than zimbabwe........in skill, experience..etc

so why we couldn't try some experiments against zimbabwe?

...

instead of looking forward, we are looking backward!

Do you play cards? You play your hands as you get. Luck of the draw. Then play with skills and finesse to beat opponent and make contracts or set others.

Before the BD's 1st ODI, management got jitters just by starring at Utseya, Price and Creamer. Hence asked curator to make pacer friendly wkts and got kicked in the rear big time. Over confident cost them the match.

Now they are back to playing their cards by it merits. That is why overloading spin with Utseya out and taking advantage to nudge forward in the series. That is a good strategy if they can implement properly.

For all experiments (outside strategy), needs to be done after the series is won.

[djnaved]

Originally Posted by Tigers_eye
Do you play cards? You play your hands as you get. Luck of the draw. Then play with skills and finesse to beat opponent and make contracts or set others.

Before the BD's 1st ODI, management got jitters just by starring at Utseya, Price and Creamer. Hence asked curator to make pacer friendly wkts and got kicked in the rear big time. Over confident cost them the match.

Now they are back to playing their cards by it merits. That is why overloading spin with Utseya out and taking advantage to nudge forward in the series. That is a good strategy if they can implement properly.

For all experiments (outside strategy), needs to be done after the series is won.

tht's what it called real challenge my friend......if u can take challenges against zimbabwe..and win it......then u can take challenges against any other teams and win it......the game cricket is getting harder day by day......u have to observe and learn quickly......otherwise u will always stand in the bottom level......amra to shobshomoy spin attack diai match jite jachhi zimbabwer shathe.......tahole boro teamer shathe je spin attack diai jitbo emon kono kotha ase? pacers also have to do their job.......zimb der shathe jodi pacerder chance na dewa hoy, tahole ki bolar ase

[Tigers_eye]

Originally Posted by djnaved
tht's what it called real challenge my friend......if u can take challenges against zimbabwe..and win it......then u can take challenges against any other teams and win it......the game cricket is getting harder day by day......u have to observe and learn quickly......otherwise u will always stand in the bottom level......amra to shobshomoy spin attack diai match jite jachhi zimbabwer shathe.......tahole boro teamer shathe je spin attack diai jitbo emon kono kotha ase? pacers also have to do their job.......zimb der shathe jodi pacerder chance na dewa hoy, tahole ki bolar ase

Yes sir, we all understand your concern. There are risk takers and there are putuputu play it safe like me people. The reason I still have this putuputu mentality is because of our domestic cricket producing putuputu players. Dolar, Alam, Sajidul, Nazmul (pichichi), Rubel, Shahadat, Rasel, Shahajada < Aamer, Parnel, Southe, Siddle, Bolinger, Kula etc. They are not Intl standard. The only way they could get a game or two is had we were sitting 3-0 in this series. Agey win the series then every thing else because that is the primary goal. Long term strategy has to be developed in the domestic structure not in Intl play just to give them some experience.

[djnaved]

Originally Posted by Tigers_eye
. The only way they could get a game or two is had we were sitting 3-0 in this series. Agey win the series then every thing else because that is the primary goal. .

we are doing this everytime with zimbabwe..isn't it?first 3-0 then blah blah.......we are doing this every single time when we play odi series against zimb.......sigh!


if our pacers can't perform against zimb teams, tht means they can't perform against top-class teams...what's the srilankan bowling coach for then? maybe in future, we will rely on 1 pacer which is mash.......and rest are spinners!

[Tigers_eye]

Last try: we were 0-1 down in this series and leading 2-1 in the last series. So no, we are not starting 3-0 in a five match series. Yes, we are better than them no doubt but we have to respect them otherwise Masakadza and Co. will bite us.

You are over-rating our pace attack. They are not that good. Once you realise that only then you see the reality. Against the Big teams yes, we can beat some of them just by spin. Ask NZ and SL. Soon Ind (Shewag, UV, Dhoni lineup) will taste that again.

When Mash comes back we will have our regular two pacer attack. May be Forhad, Dolar, Rubel, Rasel will be in contention. But not in this series ofcourse.

[Murad]

Kotha holo giya ta na..

onno der sathe taal miliye to ar chola jabe na.. amar ja ache ta niyeii amar thaka uchit..

amader fast bowler ra crap so its better if we go with the spin attack. Jar jeta shokti shetai use kora uchit. 2ta pacer nite hobe emon to kono kotha nai..

[FagunerAgun]

Originally Posted by Tigers_eye
Yes sir, we all understand your concern. There are risk takers and there are putuputu play it safe like me people. The reason I still have this putuputu mentality is because of our domestic cricket producing putuputu players. Dolar, Alam, Sajidul, Nazmul (pichichi), Rubel, Shahadat, Rasel, Shahajada < Aamer, Parnel, Southe, Siddle, Bolinger, Kula etc. They are not Intl standard. The only way they could get a game or two is had we were sitting 3-0 in this series. Agey win the series then every thing else because that is the primary goal. Long term strategy has to be developed in the domestic structure not in Intl play just to give them some experience.

khek khek.

[mij]

Originally Posted by Tigers_eye
Last try: we were 0-1 down in this series and leading 2-1 in the last series. So no, we are not starting 3-0 in a five match series. Yes, we are better than them no doubt but we have to respect them otherwise Masakadza and Co. will bite us.

You are over-rating our pace attack. They are not that good. Once you realise that only then you see the reality. Against the Big teams yes, we can beat some of them just by spin. Ask NZ and SL. Soon Ind (Shewag, UV, Dhoni lineup) will taste that again.

When Mash comes back we will have our regular two pacer attack. May be Forhad, Dolar, Rubel, Rasel will be in contention. But not in this series ofcourse.

Agree

[Nafi]

Originally Posted by Tigers_eye
Against the Big teams yes, we can beat some of them just by spin. Ask NZ and SL. Soon India (Shewag, UV, Dhoni lineup) will taste that again.

When Mash comes back we will have our regular two pacer attack. May be Forhad, Dolar, Rubel, Rasel will be in contention. But not in this series ofcourse.

Complete bhua statement

you are not going to beat India consistantly with left-arm spin alone. Come on who are you kidding, I mean yeh I can see Razzak and Shakib, putting pressure on the batting line up, taking a few key wickets. But they alone cant do all the damage, and sorry naeem, enamul, riyad will be completely harmless. And the most you can expect from Mashrafe is to take one or two top order wickets, with an economical spell.

It seems like everyone has gone mad, if BD team cannot develop three international class pacers, they can call upon, you cannot challenge the top 8, and you will be cannon-fodder on seaming tracks.

IMHO we need to develop these guys into international standard.

Pacing core
Mash (already there)
Syed Rasel (already there)
Rubel (needs development)
Shahadat (needs development)
Nazmul (needs devlopment)

Back up
Robin, Dolar, Sajidul, Farhad Reza (all need improvement)

[djnaved]

Originally Posted by Nafi
Complete bhua statement

you are not going to beat India consistantly with left-arm spin alone. Come on who are you kidding, I mean yeh I can see Razzak and Shakib, putting pressure on the batting line up, taking a few key wickets. But they alone cant do all the damage, and sorry naeem, enamul, riyad will be completely harmless. And the most you can expect from Mashrafe is to take one or two top order wickets, with an economical spell.

It seems like everyone has gone mad, if BD team cannot develop three international class pacers, they can call upon, you cannot challenge the top 8, and you will be cannon-fodder on seaming tracks.

IMHO we need to develop these guys into international standard.

Pacing core
Mash (already there)
Syed Rasel (already there)
Rubel (needs development)
Shahadat (needs development)
Nazmul (needs devlopment)

Back up
Robin, Dolar, Sajidul, Farhad Reza (all need improvement)

thenku thenku nafi bhai

tigers eye bhai, now look at the zimb scorecard.........44/allout.......spinners rules there.......bd'r jonno eita ekta easy win hoye gese..........but tht doesn't mean it would happen against top-class teams.........

[Imteaz]

4th ODI is the answer.

[M.H.Rubel]

Originally Posted by Imteaz
4th ODI is the answer.

Ha ha ha LOL good answer

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