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October 8, 2006, 12:55 PM
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One day debut for Mehrab Jr. against WI?
Just saw the NTV news where they said that BD team management is thinking seriously about giving chance to Mehrab Jr. in the second CT match against WI.They didn't detail anything like who might sit.If Mehrab Jr. really gets a chance who will be out of team?Options are:
Ash-Fool: Considering his current performance and contribution for the team, he should be the first man to be considered to get out of the team.But, no matter how much I would like him to sit outside the ground and learning from others how to value his wicket, probably he will make it for the 2nd match of CT.As we have seen Bashar commenting after the first match that he is sure that Ash-Fool will do better in the 2nd or 3rd match, we can hardly expect that Ash-Fool will replaced with Mehrab Jr.
Razzaque:Most likely.Though his bowling is great these days and batting is improving, team management might think that Mehrab Jr. being a SLA and better batsman than Razzaque might be more valuable.
Rasel: Likely.Team might consider playing only with one main pacer and use Farhad as opening bowler.As people say thhat WI is weak in playing spin.
Farhad: Somewhat likely.Farhad have done quite well with his bat.But, his bowling performance is below expectation.As it is said that WI is weak in spin bowling, team management might think that the pace of Farhad won't be neccessary and Mehrab Jr. should perform as a better batsman.Of course, we will be playing with 2 specialist pacer in that case, Mashrafi and Rasel or Shahadat.
Rafiq: Unlikely but probable.
I guess Sakib will be there for his performance in the 1st match.Bashar and Pilot will be there because we don't have option for sitting them. though I would have liked to sit both.Though very very unlikely, but u never know the creativity of our team management!They might even go for sitting SN for giving the opening slot to Mehrab?!
Do u guys think Mehrab will make it for the 2nd game?If so then who will go out?Also, it will be nice to discuss on his batting position and expectations from him.
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October 8, 2006, 01:04 PM
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Rafiq's name shouldn't even in the same line as "replacement", well not yet. I think Razzak deserves his place in the team, we don't know yet how good Mehrab can be against a quality opponent. So if Mehrab is going to play it has to be in place for Ash or perhaps Rasel if pace is not a huge factor against WI.
Anyway, I think Ashdafool will make it for the 2nd match because team management will be hoping for an eid performance.
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October 8, 2006, 01:16 PM
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Mehrab will not make his debut against WI. He will probably play against Zimbo's if we lose against WI.
In present context, only SN and Ash can be considered as probable replacement depending on their performance against WI.
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October 8, 2006, 01:16 PM
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how good is mehrab? if he is in the same class as sakib, it would be a mistake to use 2 rookies at the same time. cant be substituted for a bowler either, rajjak bowled well in the sl match.
i think bd should ideally go with same team, only replacement i can think of is shahadat in place of russel.
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October 8, 2006, 01:46 PM
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mehrab should not be thrown in the middle in a game against the windies. The poor guy did not even get a chance to bat or bowl in the practice match. Dropping one of four main bowlers to make space for him will be suicidal for us.
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October 8, 2006, 02:08 PM
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ash would have to go...rasel should get another chance...and if he is replaced it would have to be with shahadat.
as for the notion of forhad opening the bowling...he opened and got hammered against zim/kenya. if they want him to open against the likes of gayle and co. why not just open the bowling with ash-fool? that way you dont even have to debut mehrab. and u can get ash an important double...the first bangladeshi player if not the first player in cricket history to both open the batting and the bowling
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October 8, 2006, 02:21 PM
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.....and u can get ash an important double...the first bangladeshi player if not the first player in cricket history to both open the batting and the bowling
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Don't insult ashraful comparing with Monoj Provakar.:p
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October 8, 2006, 02:33 PM
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It would be a suicide to debut Mehrab Jr. against WI. We need to win this game. As much I would like to see Ash depart immediatelly, I think Ash needs to be retained in the openning position due to lack of options. He should be given clearence to play Happy-go-lucky style and hopefully all other batsmen can do the job for the team.
So, same lineup for WI game.
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October 8, 2006, 02:53 PM
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yay! so finally ash is being dropped!
i have no problems with playing mehrab in the next game. sakib and farhad seem to be doing ok (at least no worse than the seniors), so introducing a third newbie to the team shouldn't be a problem. we do have to win this game, but if ash plays his natural game, he wont be contributing much to the cause anyways.
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October 8, 2006, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by AsifTheManRahman
yay! so finally ash is being dropped!
i have no problems with playing mehrab in the next game. sakib and farhad seem to be doing ok (at least no worse than the seniors), so introducing a third newbie to the team shouldn't be a problem. we do have to win this game, but if ash plays his natural game, he wont be contributing much to the cause anyways.
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in limited action...saqib and forhad have done WAAAAAAY better than the seniors...not a single duck, IIRC
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October 8, 2006, 03:58 PM
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DOnt want another change! That will be another hopeless stuff. Dumb management can do anything anyway!
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October 8, 2006, 04:13 PM
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We should play same squad against WI. Though, I like to see Rafiq to open with Nafees and Ashraful in 4th position.
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October 8, 2006, 07:43 PM
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he wont make it, however, if we lose second one too, he will definately get a chance with zim.
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October 8, 2006, 07:50 PM
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i think we should keep the same team. because those who played badly in the first match like ash shariar nafees bashar will not be replaced. bashar is the captain so he wont sitout against west indies. shariar nafees has been in good form so he wont sit out. and ashraful, well it seems like he has a life time membership pass. farhad reza has been impressive with his batting but i dont know about his bowling. it looks like it got hammered in the first match. i dont see who mehrab can replace. in my opinion the team should be the same. and if we lose then we should give the 3 chance who didnt play.
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October 8, 2006, 09:44 PM
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As like many of you have said, according to current form Ash-fool is the one who should be dropped.For others it's not good to replace due to their role or performance.But, the comments we are seeing in Media reflects that Ash-Fool is not gonna dropped.He will stay in the team as long as he likes.
I was also surprised to listen to the news that team management is thinking seriously to give chance to Mehrab on 2nd ODI.It might not happen finally.But, if it really happens then the replacement will become a big issue and a tough decision to make.Lets see either this thing is clarified more in other news or not.
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October 8, 2006, 10:08 PM
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I would keep the same team for the second odi. Don't think ash will be dropped and don't want to drop anyone else for Mehrab. Maybe shahadat for rasel but thats it.
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October 8, 2006, 10:20 PM
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give him the chance. ash should now go back to the drawing boards and renew himself before smashing our cricket dreams.
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October 9, 2006, 01:06 AM
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IF and ONLY IF the management decides to make changes in the next game for Mehrab Jnr, i reckon the chop would have to be on Farhad Reza, even though he had a decent match the other day.
Why?
Simply cuz WI is not good in SLA, as we all know this. and his lollipop medium pace would be too simple for the WI batsmen esp the lefties Gayle, LARA.
His batting was quite good but considering Mehrab also bats fairly decent, thats the only option i see that can be changed.
The name of Rafiq and Razzak should not even be thought, let alone mentioned.
But the the question arises, are we gonna play with 4 SLA and 2 Pacers?
we would have:
Mash
Rasel ( can be replaced by Shahadat, no problem with that)
Rafiq
Razzak
Mehrab
Sakib
Tough decision. May the inexperience of Mehrab and Sakib may be a crucial factor to decide upon.
May be Aftab can play the third slow-medium pacer role?
Lets see how the team managment decide to go, though IMO, its highly unlikely they would make a change.
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October 9, 2006, 01:34 AM
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why we are trying to fix something which is not broken? I am not an Ash fan. But give him some chance. As it seems that he has no ghilo, instruct him in clear word what we expect from him. Not block, block, block, boom rather like a role of a Gilly and his place is secure for the time being.
No change please. Why to jeopardise the career of Mehrab? Give him chance in forthcoming Zimbo, Scotland matches.
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October 9, 2006, 01:38 AM
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i dont think its a good idea to bring mehrab in the second match.. he'll be usefulll against Zimbabwe... but not against.. WI..
Ash willl be there no matter what.. and i'm pretty sure..he will do something in the next match..inshallah
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October 9, 2006, 02:07 AM
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I heard MEhrab is a slow batsman. I think if we want to WIN we must play attacking opener Ash atleast it will give us a chance if it is Ash's 1 out of 1000 lucky match.
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October 9, 2006, 04:18 AM
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how good is mehrab? if he is in the same class as sakib, it would be a mistake to use 2 rookies at the same time. cant be substituted for a bowler either, rajjak bowled well in the sl match.
i think bd should ideally go with same team, only replacement i can think of is shahadat in place of russel.
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you are right, we have to repalce rasel with shahadat. thats the only change we need to beat WI
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October 9, 2006, 05:30 AM
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Isnt this suppose to be an easy math? If Mehrab is coming to the fold, he is replacing an opener,, and there is no doubt that Nafees is not leaving.
Whether that becomes the reality remains to be seen in couple of days but I agree with most of you guys,,, this team didnt fail miserably other than Ashraful continuing his typical form of 'once in a blue moon strike'.
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October 9, 2006, 07:20 AM
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Even if Mehrab plays, as suggested by that report, im not quite sure giving the new ball to Farhad Reza. His bowling looked quite ordinary to me and considering the recent form of Gayle, it would be good enough to kill the youngster's uprising career in one go.
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