It was a BIG mistake

[mqumruz88]

I know the 3rd ODI is over. But I cannt stop writing about it. It was a wrong strategy to send mashrafe so late late. He should be sent earlier bcz when Sakib fell, the spin was going on and mashrafe is good player of spin specially if he can connect the ball he can manage the to sail the ball out the ground easily. We saw it against IND. He took 26 runs in one over. So we could gamble and we could have had a chance to get those runs which could turn out pretty close mach at the end and PAki would have been in pressure. I think the captain and JS should think about that. Our think tank are also not very used with this situation. But they should realize that bcz you wont get chance fequently. I saw nobody talk about it. It was great mistake. Our team management is very happy with this result. I saw ASH was fooling around with his big teeth on the TV,seems like we won the match. I was very much upset even nobody in BC talks about it. Sorry guys!! I dont write in this forum frequently so dont take it personally. Good luck !!!!!

Ratan

[sonarbangla]

don't agree. but yeah mashrafee wasn't the man at tht situation. if i was part of BD team management i would have sent out Razzak instead of Mashrafee.

[Tigers_eye]

it was a mistake but not a big mistake. They should have sent Abdur Razzak (our best batsman) instead of Mash.

[mali007]

Originally Posted by Tigers_eye
it was a mistake but not a big mistake. They should have sent Abdur Razzak (our best batsman) instead of Mash.

Agree.

[mqumruz88]

I partialy agree but Razzak doesnt have a record to get those runs mashrafe does spclly in spin. So the mistake was done in Big ( Crucial) time.

[simon]

instead of Farhad they shld have sent Mash as Afridi was still bwling.

[mqumruz88]

you got my point. we should have gambled.

[Fazal]

What makes you think that in that particular game, bringing mashrafee instead of Farhad would make up the 23 runs deficiancy?

mashrafee played 16 balls to score 15 runs (SR 93) and Farhad played 11 balls to score 13 runs ( SR 118). So mashrafee basically need to score 51 runs in 27 balls ( close to SR 190) which was not likely considering what he did for last two overs...

48.1	Sohail Tanvir to Dhiman Ghosh, no run, drives and misses outside the off stump.
48.2	Sohail Tanvir to Dhiman Ghosh, (no ball) 1 run, driven to long off for a single, Tanvir oversteps.
Free hit
48.2	Sohail Tanvir to Mashrafe Mortaza, no run, yorker length delivery, plays and misses.
48.3	Sohail Tanvir to Mashrafe Mortaza, no run, drives and misses outside the off stump.
48.4	Sohail Tanvir to Mashrafe Mortaza, 1 run, driven down the ground to long off.
48.5	Sohail Tanvir to Dhiman Ghosh, 2 runs, driven through midwicket to the deep for couple of runs.
48.6	Sohail Tanvir to Dhiman Ghosh, no run, slower delivery, goes for a big heave and misses it.

49.1	Sohail Khan to Mashrafe Mortaza, FOUR, good shot, goes inside-out over extra cover to the fence.
49.2	Sohail Khan to Mashrafe Mortaza, no run, pulls and gets beaten.
49.3	Sohail Khan to Mashrafe Mortaza, no run, another short delivery and Mortaza once again misses the pull shot.
49.4	Sohail Khan to Mashrafe Mortaza, no run, goes for a slog, off the pad goes behind the wicket.
49.5	Sohail Khan to Mashrafe Mortaza, 1 wide, slower delivery which goes wrong for Sohail, wide outside the off stump.
49.5	Sohail Khan to Mashrafe Mortaza, 1 run, driven to extra cover, they scamper through for a quick single.
49.6	Sohail Khan to Dhiman Ghosh, no run, yorker length delivery dug out to the off side behind the wicket.

What they needed to do is drop down Ash to #6/#7 slot. That could have made the difference.

[Murad]

Mashrafe can play well against medium fast bowlers and spin.

Sohail was bowling over 135 k in the last 2 overs he bowled and Mashrafe was facing him in both as well. Lot of swings and misses.

Farhad is somewhat same as Mashrafe against Fast bowlers. He was scoring well against spinners but when fast bowlers came he failed to connect so many balls.(not so many but at that stage it was so many)

I think thats because we don't have much bowlers who can bowl in mid 80s in our domestic cricket.

[Spitfire_x86]

Suppose Mashrafee came when the spinners were on, and got lucky with couple of big hits. Then what would happen? Pacers had plenty of overs left, so Shoaib Malik would obviously switch to pacers and we would see the same rubbish from Mashrafee.

It's about time we send him back to #11. Even Shahadat can't do much worse than Mashrafee. At least he doesn't back away from the line of delivery every single time!

[Beamer]

Originally Posted by Spitfire_x86
Suppose Mashrafee came when the spinners were on, and got lucky with couple of big hits. Then what would happen? Pacers had plenty of overs left, so Shoaib Malik would obviously switch to pacers and we would see the same rubbish from Mashrafee.

It's about time we send him back to #11. Even Shahadat can't do much worse than Mashrafee. At least he doesn't back away from the line of delivery every single time!

One of the reasons why he kept missing the pacers was the bowlers saw him backing away and just fired slow deliveries outside the off stump. He simply couldn't reach it.

At least he is bowling better..

[Ashraful99]

[al-Sagar]

I think he Tamim Aftab and ash had played 10 to 15 overs more than they played, we would have not discussing for mistakes

[Snowman]

I dont think it was a mistake because to ask Mashrafe to do that is unacceptable. He is a bowler not an allrounder with great hitting powers. Yes, in the past he has done good, but cant expect him to save the day.
Lets move on to the next match, as that game is history now and many things can be debated over what went wrong and what went right. Lets concentrate on the future.
GO TIGERS GO
WE WILL WIN THE 4th ODI

[cricman]

He missed at least wide 3 full toses, he was (pre-determined) stepping back(exposing his stumps) trying to heave over mid wicket, against spinners he's so natural uses his feet properly, dances down the track for sixs.

BTW: IMO he would have had to face Malik or Alam, because Afridi would be to Fast for him IMO

[djnaved]

the biggest mistake was when tamim and ash was runout..........it changed the game

[Aritro]

As far as I'm concerned, Mortaza has well and truly established himself as our designated number 11. The reality is that he hasn't looked capable of holding a bat at all since that stunning series against India when he toyed with their bowlers on the way to two half centuries.

His batting in its current state is frankly embarrassing. Quite how he's allowed to continue to bat the way he does beggars belief.

He wouldn't have made a lick of difference in that much. On the contrary, he would have stepped two feet outsidge leg-stump to each delivery and taken a Babe Ruth-esque cross-bat swipe, only to miss the ball by an entire bat-length. This is what he did for most of his 16 balls, and this is what he's been doing for the last 12 months. He currently has less to offer with the bat than all of our bowlers, with the exception of Rasel.

He's gotten carried away with the success he had with a cavalier approach and now he's imposed a late order six-hitter type identity on himself which he continues to try and fail to live up to. When it comes down to it, no batsman will ever make more than 20 by continually taking a huge stride outside leg stump, especially if this stride takes you too far away to actually be able to reach the ball.

Whoever suggested we should have sent Razzak in had it right.

[abu2abu]

In matches like that one, where we are chasing and have a chance of winning either Aftab or Ash should act as a floater and bat in any position deemed necessary. So in this particular game, we should have held ash/aftab back until shakib's wicket fell.

As we saw it's tough to score at the death especially with conventional strokeplay. This is why mash was swinging and missing. It's best to play our most unconventional batsmen, innovative players like shakib and Ash or, guys who can score boundaries at will like Aftab.

you can't really blame the management though, this sort of thing comes with experience. And let's face it, we've rarely been in such potentially match-wining positions before!

[BanCricFan]

Originally Posted by Aritro
As far as I'm concerned, Mortaza has well and truly established himself as our designated number 11. The reality is that he hasn't looked capable of holding a bat at all since that stunning series against India when he toyed with their bowlers on the way to two half centuries.

His batting in its current state is frankly embarrassing. Quite how he's allowed to continue to bat the way he does beggars belief.

He wouldn't have made a lick of difference in that much. On the contrary, he would have stepped two feet outsidge leg-stump to each delivery and taken a Babe Ruth-esque cross-bat swipe, only to miss the ball by an entire bat-length. This is what he did for most of his 16 balls, and this is what he's been doing for the last 12 months. He currently has less to offer with the bat than all of our bowlers, with the exception of Rasel.

He's gotten carried away with the success he had with a cavalier approach and now he's imposed a late order six-hitter type identity on himself which he continues to try and fail to live up to. When it comes down to it, no batsman will ever make more than 20 by continually taking a huge stride outside leg stump, especially if this stride takes you too far away to actually be able to reach the ball.

Whoever suggested we should have sent Razzak in had it right.

Excellent post, Aritro! Couldn't have put it better!

[Sohel]

Great post Arito.

It is always a pleasure to read your and Razab's accute observations, technical or otherwise, about our cricketers. I always rated Razzak as a better batsman after MaMu decided to urinate on our hopes raised during the course of his heroic innings against India.

That said, MaMu is back to his old slogging self. No longer bra-ed, padded and ready to run away from the line of delivery. The bat is a bit straighter on occasion also.

Thank GOD for Shumi being with him.

[Aritro]

Originally Posted by abu2abu
In matches like that one, where we are chasing and have a chance of winning either Aftab or Ash should act as a floater and bat in any position deemed necessary. So in this particular game, we should have held ash/aftab back until shakib's wicket fell.

As we saw it's tough to score at the death especially with conventional strokeplay. This is why mash was swinging and missing. It's best to play our most unconventional batsmen, innovative players like shakib and Ash or, guys who can score boundaries at will like Aftab.

you can't really blame the management though, this sort of thing comes with experience. And let's face it, we've rarely been in such potentially match-wining positions before!

We actually wouldn't have been in any position to win if Aftab hadn't played his part in that 2nd wicket partnership...

[abu2abu]

Originally Posted by Aritro
We actually wouldn't have been in any position to win if Aftab hadn't played his part in that 2nd wicket partnership...

You are entirely correct aritro bhai. I still think we need a floater though. Maybe ash?

[mshakir56]

If Mashrafee quits moving his body and stay still and concentrate on the ball, he will be more successfull !