Should BCB make riyad vice captain again for tamim future nd for team good ?

nynemesis · #1 January 31, 2014, 04:30 PM

Lets just face it everyone had feeling somethings might go wrong this time on 1st test , . and that exactly what happen .and being vice captain of a team tamim forgot whats his role. musfiq and riyad together was one of the best captain and VC we ever had whether we agree or disagree . End of the day its all about team performance . so even tho riyad was not performing in the test but he was still doing well on ODI . and he is proven player so he still couldve come with good performance later on for his spot . but totally sacking him from VC i think it was wrong move by BCB .

aklemalp · #2 January 31, 2014, 04:38 PM

Riyad seems to have a better mindset as a cricketer (no offense to Tamim), the reason for his non inclusion in the team (starting XI) was a mystery. I hope they learn from that 1st test experience, play to your strengths rather than the other way around. I believe complacency was another issue.

Fazal · #3 January 31, 2014, 04:51 PM

Jai Lau Sae kodu. If they need to change the VC, they should choose a younger talent who they think will be the captain four/five years from now.

Shubho · #4 January 31, 2014, 05:20 PM

What's this VC rubbish anyway? Why bother?

cricketboy · #5 January 31, 2014, 05:37 PM

Anyways Tamim is a short term option as a vice captain. Looks like they are grooming Nasir to be the future vice captain and captain one day.

Nadim · #6 January 31, 2014, 06:14 PM

Haha knew it was Zahid miah when I read the title of this thread.

BD_TigerZ · #7 January 31, 2014, 07:27 PM

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Haha knew it was Zahid miah when I read the title of this thread.

This.

Riyad for minister!

Gowza · #8 January 31, 2014, 07:36 PM

neither should be vice captian. tamim doesn't have the mindest or leading ability to have a leadership role, riyad isn't good enough to make the team plus has some attitude issues as well which you definitely don't want passed on to other players in the team or up and coming players who idolise these players.

to give tamim one test as VC and say he should be pulled though, it's not quite fair when riyad got so many chances and was no better than tamim, fact is tamim has had a much better test career than riyad has had so on performance tamim is more deserving of the VC role.

Night_wolf · #9 January 31, 2014, 10:34 PM

we have other problems to think about

Crickbang · #10 February 1, 2014, 12:30 AM

Who cares about the VC right now? Anyways, if anything happens to Mushy I think Shakib should over-rule Tamim (what has this sagol done to lead the team in the first place?) and step in. If you are really thinking about making a change after this series again, then it should be Shakib in my opinion. Nasir needs at least 2 more years. Let him grow.

Crickbang · #11 February 1, 2014, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Gowza
neither should be vice captian. tamim doesn't have the mindest or leading ability to have a leadership role, riyad isn't good enough to make the team plus has some attitude issues as well which you definitely don't want passed on to other players in the team or up and coming players who idolise these players.

to give tamim one test as VC and say he should be pulled though, it's not quite fair when riyad got so many chances and was no better than tamim, fact is tamim has had a much better test career than riyad has had so on performance tamim is more deserving of the VC role.

We already had Tamim as the VC. He kind of acts immaturely on and off the field. Remember the ''ordinary" comment from him to Vetori during the ZIM tour in 2011, after which he and Shakib were sacked because we lost the series? I don't see what's new going to come out of it the second time around.

Gowza · #12 February 1, 2014, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Crickbang
We already had Tamim as the VC. He kind of acts immaturely on and off the field. Remember the ''ordinary" comment from him to Vetori during the ZIM tour in 2011, after which he and Shakib were sacked because we lost the series? I don't see what's new going to come out of it the second time around.

i think nasir is a good candidate for VC even now but as far as captaining goes, he shouldn't be captain for at least a couple of years as you say.

bujhee kom · #13 February 1, 2014, 12:50 AM

hee nemesis opened a thread ...hey, who is this? Is this my dear Dr. WiseShah?? Hahaha...??
What's the true genuine value of this raattid position...raaas?!!
How about making BK the Vice-president?? Where is Biden anyway? What the jigirim does he do 24/7 drawing genuine fo salary?? Haa? People's money betta be spent on betta item ...speajking as WindiesFan.... my dearTigerfreinds, you betta get your buuttimaan raass in gear maan, cause the tigers playing like a bunch of bombaa... yo!!!! Losing wickets like losing undies!

Crickbang · #14 February 1, 2014, 12:51 AM

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i think nasir is a good candidate for VC even now but as far as captaining goes, he shouldn't be captain for at least a couple of years as you say.

Yeah that's why I said don't rush him. He needs at least two more years. He's barely 22 and still growing as a player. We don't want him to be rushed with the extra responsibility right away and lose form in the process. Bring him along into the leadership role(s) slowly.

Crickbang · #15 February 1, 2014, 12:53 AM

Ooops! I think I just repeated myself with that reply hahhaa. Sorry

Gowza · #16 February 1, 2014, 01:01 AM

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Ooops! I think I just repeated myself with that reply hahhaa. Sorry

no worries

Razi · #17 February 1, 2014, 04:31 AM

No Zahid, Riyad for PM!

aklemalp · #18 February 1, 2014, 01:16 PM

Riyad is getting a lit of recommendations. Good to see.

Tiger444 · #19 February 1, 2014, 01:34 PM

Tamim might not be the ideal option but it's a whole lot better than Riyad being the VC. Riyad really shouldn't have been the VC in the 1st place. He's always been a player that had 1 foot in and 1 foot out. He was never a true regular. Let him establish his spot first in the before ever thinking about having him be the VC. Tamim might not be in the best form but he has still been a regular for a long time.

Shakib would be a good choice but he won't take the VC spot. He'll either be a captain or nothing it seems. Nasir wouldn't be a bad choice but he's still young and BCB might not want him to think about leadership yet. So Tamim seems to be the only other choice.

aklemalp · #20 February 1, 2014, 02:31 PM

@tiger 444. You mentioned that tamim is not in the best of forms. This is not a good analysis of his batting. Any batsman who is not in form should make it their priority to occupy the crease for as long as it takes them to regain that lost form. What tamin did was suicide. I don't expect any true cricket fan to call him a martyr.
On the issue of VC, I wouldn't even name one, mushy is exceptional, does not need a deputy. Sorry to say this tiger 444, but this was my opinion on tamim's batting.

Crickbang · #21 February 1, 2014, 03:28 PM

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Tamim might not be the ideal option but it's a whole lot better than Riyad being the VC. Riyad really shouldn't have been the VC in the 1st place. He's always been a player that had 1 foot in and 1 foot out. He was never a true regular. Let him establish his spot first in the before ever thinking about having him be the VC. Tamim might not be in the best form but he has still been a regular for a long time.

Shakib would be a good choice but he won't take the VC spot. He'll either be a captain or nothing it seems. Nasir wouldn't be a bad choice but he's still young and BCB might not want him to think about leadership yet. So Tamim seems to be the only other choice.

Why wouldn't Shakib take the VC spot? Have we offered him and he said "no"? I mean he would be one step away from leading the team again. Why won't he take it if offered? I just don't think Tamim is leadership material. He may end up being the best opener in BD cricket history but he doesn't have the leadership qualities.

nynemesis · #22 February 1, 2014, 03:57 PM

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Why wouldn't Shakib take the VC spot? I just don't think Tamim is leadership material. He may end up being the best opener in BD cricket history but he doesn't have the leadership qualities.

Exactly bro totally agree with u ,I don't think tamim have the mentality for that , I would rather keep nasir as a VC or sakib . But nasir needs at least year . But I thought musfiq and riyad were doing great for these last couple years , so bcb shouldn't sack riyad .nd give him at least couple more chance . His average 34 in odis nearly in 100 odi match show his skills that he can come bak with good performance . But giving tamim a VC role wasn't good move by BCB for sure

Tiger444 · #23 February 1, 2014, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by aklemalp
@tiger 444. You mentioned that tamim is not in the best of forms. This is not a good analysis of his batting. Any batsman who is not in form should make it their priority to occupy the crease for as long as it takes them to regain that lost form. What tamin did was suicide. I don't expect any true cricket fan to call him a martyr.
On the issue of VC, I wouldn't even name one, mushy is exceptional, does not need a deputy. Sorry to say this tiger 444, but this was my opinion on tamim's batting.

I was talking more about Tamim's form the last 3-4 years but ya I agree with you.

Tiger444 · #24 February 1, 2014, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Crickbang
Why wouldn't Shakib take the VC spot? Have we offered him and he said "no"? I mean he would be one step away from leading the team again. Why won't he take it if offered? I just don't think Tamim is leadership material. He may end up being the best opener in BD cricket history but he doesn't have the leadership qualities.

He was already a captain, why would be go back to being VC? I don't think I've seen captains get sacked and then come back to be a VC.

Tiger444 · #25 February 1, 2014, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Crickbang
Why wouldn't Shakib take the VC spot? Have we offered him and he said "no"? I mean he would be one step away from leading the team again. Why won't he take it if offered? I just don't think Tamim is leadership material. He may end up being the best opener in BD cricket history but he doesn't have the leadership qualities.

And what has Riyad's avg been in Tests the past 2-3 years?