Duleep Trophy - Pathetic performances by all teams

pagol-chagol · #1 February 15, 2005, 10:31 PM

http://www.cricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/2...EP/SCORECARDS/

All the teams sucked in batting on the first day.

If we had some bowlers we really had a chance to win it all.

Edited on, February 16, 2005, 3:40 AM GMT, by pagol-chagol.

jubaitca · #2 February 15, 2005, 10:54 PM

Bangladesh Squad
Mohammad Ashraful (Captain)
Al Shahriar
Rajan Saleh
Nafis Iqbal
Aftab Ahmed
Alok Kapali
Manjural Islam Rana
+ Sahagir Hossain Pavel
Abdur Razzak
Talha Jubair
Nazmul Hossain
Tareq Aziz
Anwar Hossain Monir

Who is Sahagir Hossain Pavel ?

2007WcSemifinalist · #3 February 15, 2005, 10:59 PM

Sahgir Hossain pavel is a wicket keeper

savyasachi · #4 February 16, 2005, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pagol-chagol
http://www.cricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/2...EP/SCORECARDS/

All the teams sucked in batting on the first day.

If we had some bowlers we really had a chance to win it all.

Edited on, February 16, 2005, 3:40 AM GMT, by pagol-chagol.

Ektu dhoirjo dhorun ... we will know the true worth of your team soon enough.

As for the performances on the first day, do not base your opinions on scorecard reading. Conditions favoured fast bowlers and both East and North have very good ones. Nehra has always had more talent than Zaheer, while Paul is on the threshold of the Indian team.

I will repeat what I said earlier in a poll that I started ... the oppositions will be far stronger than Zimbabwe and it will be a true test of exactly where Bangladesh stands as they build up to the all important tour of England. That tour will make or break all talk of a 2-tiered test system.

Hopefully the BCB XI will be able to stand up and be counted.

Blah · #5 February 16, 2005, 12:05 AM

I doubt the outcome of this turnament would have any potential effect on the decision of 2-tier system.

If this was the case than we would have sent our national team, and than some.

Blah

savyasachi · #6 February 16, 2005, 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Blah
I doubt the outcome of this turnament would have any potential effect on the decision of 2-tier system.

Learn to parse English. I did not say the outcome of this tournament would have any effect on the decision of 2-tier system. I said the tour of England would.

Quote:

If this was the case than we would have sent our national team, and than some.

Blah

None of the zones are national teams either. So whats your point? If you want to compete as a top tier test nation, you should be able to perform against zonal teams without sending your full squad. Chuck that. You should be able to perform even with your 'A' side. And this BCB XI is decidedly more than the 'A' side.

Blah · #7 February 16, 2005, 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by savyasachi
Learn to parse English. I did not say the outcome of this tournament would have any effect on the decision of 2-tier system. I said the tour of England would.

Sorry my mistake.

Quote:

None of the zones are national teams either. So whats your point? If you want to compete as a top tier test nation, you should be able to perform against zonal teams without sending your full squad. Chuck that. You should be able to perform even with your 'A' side. And this BCB XI is decidedly more than the 'A' side.

Funny thing about english. If you take sentence out of context they don't make much sense, but when you put it together, they do make sense. My first sentence was in direct reference to my second sentence, which you skillfully qouted out of context. Since the first sentence is moot, because of wrong interpretation of your post, the second sentence if qouted out of context won't make sense.

Maybe "you" should learn to parse english!

Blah

roaring_tiger · #8 February 16, 2005, 12:37 AM

by the way..'savyasachi'.vai .apni ki Indian?...
just asking...nothing serious!!:P

savyasachi · #9 February 16, 2005, 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Blah
Funny thing about english. If you take sentence out of context they don't make much sense, but when you put it together, they do make sense. My first sentence was in direct reference to my second sentence, which you skillfully qouted out of context. Since the first sentence is moot, because of wrong interpretation of your post, the second sentence if qouted out of context won't make sense.

Maybe "you" should learn to parse english!

Blah

Accepted. I also apologize for my harsh remarks.
The title of the thread "Pathetic ... " got my goat.
No hard feelings :-)

savyasachi · #10 February 16, 2005, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by roaring_tiger
by the way..'savyasachi'.vai .apni ki Indian?...
just asking...nothing serious!!:P

I am an Indian by citizenship,
Bengali by inclination,
American by residence,
Hindu by heart,
fan of sub-continental cricket by taste,
and a keen follower of Bangladesh cricket.

Thanks for asking.

Blah · #11 February 16, 2005, 01:09 AM

Quote:

Accepted. I also apologize for my harsh remarks.
The title of the thread "Pathetic ... " got my goat.
No hard feelings :-)

Kool!

Ehsan · #12 February 16, 2005, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by savyasachi

I am an Indian by citizenship,
Bengali by inclination,
American by residence,
Hindu by heart,
fan of sub-continental cricket by taste,
and a keen follower of Bangladesh cricket.

Indo-American-Bangla bomb, glad to have you here!

Welcome to BanglaCricket.

rafiq · #13 February 16, 2005, 02:09 AM

Our batting is obviously close to test team full strength, but our bowling looks suspect. Tareq Aziz and Naimur Rahman have been replaced by Mohammad Shahzada (seamer) and Sabbir Khan (spinner), according to today's DS. I have no idea who Shahzada is. Wonder what happened to Fahim Muntasir - did he go on the 'A' team tour? Razzak is not quite Enamul Jr. And Monir will get hit all over the park so hope they don't use him - Talha is the better choice to partner Nazmul.

SS Paul is a very good bowler, our top order needs to be awake.

DJ Sahastra · #14 February 16, 2005, 02:38 AM

SavyaSachi,

What's it about your confrontational attitude. I just don't get it.

Does it hurt to be a little modest considering that you are guest on the board?

cricketfan · #15 February 16, 2005, 03:00 AM

BCB XI will face East Zone next week at Nagpur. That match will tell where the BCB XI stands vis-a-vis the 'sucking' East Zone. Incidentally all the four teams have 'sucked' in batting by lunch time on the second day of their matches. The batsmen incidentally are not that bad. It is the bowling that has been good in helpful conditions.

mahbubH · #16 February 16, 2005, 04:34 AM

So far 20+ wickets in one and half day. What are the reasons:

(i) underprepared wickets
(ii) India got some McGrath overnight,
(iii) India batsmen lost form

# West North match : Pacers got wickets for North whereas spinners made the damage for West ...

shujan · #17 February 16, 2005, 04:57 AM

Where are all the test players. I donot see anybody beside M. Kaif and Sheweg. I havn't seen the south line up yet. Yuvrar and chopra is doing good.

Low scoring game doesn't mean that it is a bad game! please hold judgment until Bangladesh play their first game. Lets see how Bangladesh perform.

Edited on, February 16, 2005, 10:25 AM GMT, by shujan.

mahbubH · #18 February 16, 2005, 05:15 AM

>> Where are all the test players?

Shewag, Gambir , Yuvraj , new star Dhoni, Chopra, Parthiv, Kaif are playing these matches. BTW why are you looking for test players .... India's domestic league is very rich something like Pura cup. So reasons of this performance may be something else!

Other batsmen:

Dada : side strain (East)
10dul : Tennis elbow (West)
Dravid, Laxman : .. (team Tintin)

Edited on, February 16, 2005, 12:35 PM GMT, by sports_fan_bd.
Reason: Reason: added info on other stars

Edited on, February 16, 2005, 12:46 PM GMT, by sports_fan_bd.

Tintin · #19 February 16, 2005, 07:18 AM

>> Dravid, Laxman : team Tintin

What is this ?

mahbubH · #20 February 16, 2005, 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tintin
>> Dravid, Laxman : team Tintin

What is this ?

sorry ... just tried to say South zone.

Tintin · #21 February 16, 2005, 07:38 AM

I thought you were referring to some illness like tennis elbow

mahbubH · #22 February 16, 2005, 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tintin
I thought you were referring to some illness like tennis elbow

Ya that post was not clear .... still no injury is named after your name!

oracle · #23 February 16, 2005, 08:58 AM

I hope it is not underprepared wickets. If so this cannot be good means of gauging our players for upcoming series.

offcutter · #24 February 16, 2005, 09:09 AM

When is BCB XI's first match?

Arnab · #25 February 16, 2005, 09:10 AM

Do you guys remember watching Indian domestic cricket on ESPN back home? I used to watch some back in 1999-00, especially when I was in my machi mara 24-hour ESPN Star Sports mode.

I vaguely remember all the fields being dust bowls. Horrible pacers, mediocre Robin Singh type medium pacers and legions of spinners. And for some odd reason the only player whose name I can remember is Sairaj Bahutule. Also remember empty galleries. And poor Harsha Bhogle doing ALL the commentaries (probably in his hat pakani period before he turned pro), all dubbed in after the match was recorded.

Edited on, February 16, 2005, 2:10 PM GMT, by Arnab.