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Old March 19, 2014, 03:14 AM
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Default Things that need fixin' - T20 WC Edition

Yeah, we've handily defeated two associates (with one more inevitable win left) on the way towards making it to the super 10 main round of the WC.

As it often happens with us, we tend to forget the what;s still broken and need fixing.

So before we all get collective amnesia, I hope this thread will allow us to keep track of those issues and monitor them to see if the coaches, players, or administration are making any effort to fix.

Jadukar - you posted a litany of woes in another thread. Can you get the ball rolling here too?
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Old March 19, 2014, 04:40 AM
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Who will fix mushfiq's captaincy?
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Old March 19, 2014, 04:43 AM
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Before the next World T-20 make sure you are at least top 5.
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Old March 19, 2014, 05:02 AM
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Batting-

-Rotation
-Poor use of powerplay
-Too many dot balls
-We need a good lower order who can hit it..

Bowling-

-Far too many hit me balls throughout releasing pressure
-Use of mash at death
-Poor bowling rotation


some of the major issues that come to mind..
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Old March 19, 2014, 05:09 AM
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Perhaps this was pointed somewhere else as well.

But if we see the same sort of decision making on the field, like we saw against Nepal, we ll be punished by stronger teams. While its understandable the dew made it difficult for spinners, Mushfiq must understand a specialist spinner bowling with a wet ball has a better probability in keeping batsmen in check compared to a part timer who probably bowls medium pace only once in a while. This is not backyard cricket, this is international standard cricket where Bangladesh doesnt have the luxury of experimenting.

Fielding wasnt bad, but overall one could clearly see the players didnt have the motivation, and drive that they had against Afghanistan.

Another thing to keep in mind. In both matches Al Amin has been erratic in his first over.

Why not bring him after 6 with the field spread out. In the mean time get a spinner to start alongside Mashrafee. A 10-12 run over can totally derail the good work done in the other end by Mashrafee or any other bowler. Al Amin is a risky move, which must be thought of carefully. There is no rule which states Bangladesh must start with two pacers.
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Old March 19, 2014, 06:20 AM
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We are missing two key players for this format:

Ziaur Rahman,
Arafat Sunny
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Old March 19, 2014, 06:39 AM
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BTW who will host the next World T-20 ?
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Old March 19, 2014, 07:32 AM
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I like this Bowling combination. 2 pacers+1 medium pacer+2 full time spinner+1 part time spinner.
But the main thing is what is the role of Farhad Reza Here. He brings variation to the bowling department other wise is he a effective T20 player?
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Old March 19, 2014, 07:41 AM
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Old March 19, 2014, 07:42 AM
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Batting:
1. Anamul foot work and trying to score 10 runs per over will cause his wicket
2. Tamim not looking 100% fit but he is one of our best so we have to be happy what he gives to us in the beginning..if he scores 25 that will be a bonus but I doubt he can stop those incoming sharp deliveries rattling his stumps or he can playing a KaEdge marka shot.
3. Mushfiq, Rumman, Shakib will be key to build up the innings in the middle from 5 overs to close to end if they fail ...middle and lower middle order need to fix the damage. At current moment based on the recent performances of Nasir, Mullah and Pheza I doubt our middle and lower middle can do that.
4. Due to the form and lack of lower order batsmen who can hit, we are not capable of posting a challenging total or chase down a challenging total in the next phase except Shakib, Mushfiq...I have no clue why all these years BCB could not develop a set of T20 specialist or selectors are getting happy with their current selectoions which won us game againsts associates..they have not fixed any problem

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1. This unit is totally not ready to face the quality oppositions. Whatever happened against SL and asia cup. it will happen again when the quality batsmen will score 20 runs per over with his type of bowlers. In recent history, we never had this type of bowling unit where all bowlers lost their forms and bowl 2 to 3 boundary deliveries every single over.

2. Mash death over bowling to Nepal and Al-Amin last over bowling will be completely opposite...they can't bowl good slower bowls and no good yorkers...they will turn to zero from hero if they quality to the second round...what are they doing all these years I have no clue not learning how to bowl T20 overs..indeed they are slow learners without any strategies

3. Razzak will give away all the runs in the middle probably get a wicket but that does not stop the opponent scoring 200+ run..he has to stop giving those legside deliveries...first of all why he is selected no clue ..hope he will rectify as soon as possible ...giving blame to dew won't help

Fielding:

1. Please hold on to the catches

2. Please stop eating biriyani before fielding . The fielders looked aweful and so slow with no aggression and I hope they are working on those...stoping a boundary still saves 1 run...stoping a single still saves a single...10 to 20 runs make a huge difference in T20...they still do not understand this
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Old March 19, 2014, 07:47 AM
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I like this Bowling combination. 2 pacers+1 medium pacer+2 full time spinner+1 part time spinner.
But the main thing is what is the role of Farhad Reza Here. He brings variation to the bowling department other wise is he a effective T20 player?
I think nasir can be our medium pacer in t20s, it also means we can bat deeper because with nasir bowling we get to play another batsman.
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Old March 19, 2014, 08:11 AM
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A timely thread Zunaid bhai! I hope the management takes these suggestions somehow seriously into consideration.

- Mushfique's captaincy: Again, always on the defensive side, he is impatient, he removes the gully as soon as the bowler bowles a wide. Reflects he has no confidence in the bowlers ability. It has been mentioned again and again! Pros are he reads the pitch well but he needs to be more attacking.

- In bowling we need someone like Taskin who is a wicket taker, yes he did bad in the practice game but he is here for the long run remember.

- Ziaur Rahman, nuff said.

- Reza needs to be dropped period.

- Razzak is not fit for this.

If we can get Taskin and Ziaur in instead of Reza and Razzak, I honestly think we have a shot at the finals. That will be a team to beat! Unfortunately we can't! So we are eternall;y doomed fromt he Super 10s.

Also FIELDING needs to be very very sharp in the Super 10s. Basically get their heads out of their a$$es and start playing like there is no tomorrow.
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Old March 19, 2014, 08:45 AM
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Wicket keeping. We need to either try Anamul or try someone else.

Rahim's wicket keeping is not good enough. His range is not good, and he misses too many easy stamping opportunities. And then yell to young players (with decent fielding record) with no credibility of his own (in fielding). Rahim is not good when things get tough, his captaincy make it worse i.e make a difficult situation even worse.

Captaincy. We need a new captain who is more cricket savy and intelligent and make the bold decision in the field and can fully utilize his resources. Need a captain who doesn't panic under pressure and knows how to adjust and counter attack in those kind of situations, have the killer instict and knows how to kill the opponent when they are in difficult situation. Also we need a captain who not only lead by example (what Rahim is doing with the bat) but also absorb the heat for himself and protect his team-mates, specially the young one. Also as the team is pretty young, we need a captain who will nurture, encourage and guide the young players and defend them in public instead of throwing them under the bus.

However Rahim is the backbone of our batting order, That's the only good thing about him. And he should purely concentrate on his batting only.
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Old March 19, 2014, 08:59 AM
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We need a team concentrating on the next step and relay the instruction to Mushfiqur. Otherwise, he will give away the match in the middle or death overs.

Fielding need to be much sharper.

If we want an extra pacer, bring in Zia for Reza.
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Old March 19, 2014, 09:14 AM
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We scored 280 odd and 326 against India and Pakistan respectively... so I would assume that our batting order can handle the bowling of India and Pakistan to an extent. I think we can chase 170 against both the teams... perhaps higher against India.

The question is what sort of total can we defend?

Even if we take dew out of the equation still we have only one bowler out of 5 who could perhaps go for 5 an over for four overs. The remaining 15 is a worry for me. Mashrafi looks good with his 125 kph pace against associates but what will happen when he is against Warner? Mashrafi needs to have a plan B when he gets targetted. Obviously he is no malinga but 4 yorkers in a spell of 4 overs is not too much to ask for a bowler of his experience.

Razzak still bowls one rubbish short ball per over... and a leg side wide. He bowls legside when he is under pressure. Over the years he has done NOTHING to address this problem and hence we continue to see him leak runs. One good thing he is able to do is bowl that yorker length and the arm ball. He needs to understand that throwing darts won't save him against Gayle.

Al Amin has decent pace and a very good inswinger. He needs to find a channel outside the off stump and stop bowling wide deliveries in the opening spell. He releases the pressure that Mashrafi builds by bowling short and wide during the powerplay. Still haven't seen him bowl a yorker or an effective bouncer. He needs to sort out a fuller tighter length for the death overs. What he did against nepal will not go unpunished against the bigger sides.

Ryad, after shakib looks the best bowling option at the moment in the absence of Arafat Sunny or Zia. I hope he can have a good game with the ball during crunch matches.

Farhad Reza, Razzak and Al Amin are my biggest worries. I would be tempted to drop Razzak for Mominul because I think Mominul can bowl a tighter length and adds extra depth in batting and fielding.
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Old March 19, 2014, 12:35 PM
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I want to see firecrackers or fire balls after every six or wicket .. also fix those awful DJs...
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Old March 19, 2014, 02:29 PM
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Things that need fixings.

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Old March 19, 2014, 02:46 PM
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Qualifying is not the issue. Winning games (plural) in the super ten is the issue. We didn't win anything this year (with the exception of associates).
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Old March 19, 2014, 02:55 PM
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Even Nepal have two slips when fast (medium pacers) bowlers are bowling. Mushi!!!!

If you don't have players in catching positions how do you think you would get them out? Wait for the players to make mistake? Rohit, Kohli, Mesbah, Gayle, Watson are better than that. This is not Habibul Bashar's team. Set an attacking field. You will be rewarded. Set a puttu puttu field, you will be handed your rear in a platter.
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1) DJ - yes finally someone mentioned those horrible DJ's. Jeez they are sooo bad...
2) Captain. I'm afraid Mushfiq will continue to make mistakes that will cost him the match.
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Old March 19, 2014, 03:26 PM
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Old March 19, 2014, 05:51 PM
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Mentality. Gotta get tougher.
Please oh please stop finding ways to grab defeat from the jaws of victory.
Keep the pressure on.
Too late to change this but how about a FREE HIT clinic? Work on how to belt those out.
Yorkers are a valid option.
Medium pacers are not spinners. Ball comes slow and T20 specialists can hit them out of the park without even trying.
Stick to spin. Masri and Razzak can open. Since you're he'll bent on playing Razzak.
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Old March 19, 2014, 05:52 PM
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It worked for Indian batting but bowling got bhota.
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Out of many many things, one thing that baffles me most in t20s is how our bowlers, especially fast bowlers, have this strategy of using bounce over yorkers in death overs. I don't know if they are instructed to bowl bouncers or are they simply incapable of pulling well directed yorkers. Shane jurgensen is a horrible HORRIBLE bowling coach. I have seen our bowlers rather deteriorating instead of showing any improvement. It is not hard for us to atleast expect them to bowl at right areas. It doesn;t have to be anything special but they even fail to deliver that more often than not.
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