Most Overrated bowler in Banglacricket

naz_ca · #1 July 28, 2009, 07:53 PM

Rubel is the most overrated bowler or player in banglacricket. Agree or not. He is jut an ordinary or will be more correct if I tell an useless bowler.Just because he got a 4 for against Lanka, some membrs here though he is lee,bond and what not?

I never was a fan of his bowling.Four out of 6 deliveries of a rubels over will be there to be hit. One or two good balls does not coverup uncountable short pitch deliveries.He is also not tall enough. Just because he could bowl at 85 mph ,some overexcited members named him gramergunda,RBX and what not!!!In addition,is also a pathetic death bowler.

I think he should be dropped right away for the good of the team.Nazmul, Robin are much better bowlers.We need to give credit where its due !

*AsifTheManRahman* · #2 July 28, 2009, 07:56 PM

He's only 19 - he shouldn't even be in the team.

Now that he is, give him a few more years.

Gowza · #3 July 28, 2009, 07:58 PM

i think he was brought into test cricket too soon. i would like to see robin given more of ago in tests, and maybe sajidul. rubel is a talent though, he just needs to work on his control otherwise he has everything he needs to be a decent international bowler.

Zeeshan · #4 July 28, 2009, 07:58 PM

you have opened the gate of flood here bro

*here comes Asad vai with Poseidon's pitchfork to defend him*

And also I agree with Sohel vai about guys like Us not being "aggressive"[my word] enough when interviewing
him? Pirit purit baad diya I'd point blank shoot him with : "How the [bleep] could you let Murali smack you around like that when only chance of history was there in front of your eyes...you [bleep]?!

But oh well to political correctness.

One World · #5 July 28, 2009, 08:40 PM

Check point: West Indian pacers giants like Sammy could not stop us from winning although all of them managed wicket.

And Rubel was not well supported from the other side. For a better fresh ball attack you need two back to back pacers.

He will mature. He has ample time to grow.

Tigers_eye · #6 July 28, 2009, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by One World
Check point: West Indian pacers giants like Sammy could not stop us from winning although all of them managed wicket.

And Rubel was not well supported from the other side. For a better fresh ball attack you need two back to back pacers.

He will mature. He has ample time to grow.

Not really Vass single handedly destroyed us.

Give the boy more time.

I was totally against Rubel getting in to the national side. I always wanted him to tour England instead of the Carribeans. He got a taste of what it takes at this level. He needs to go back to Champaka. He needs to eat, sleep, drink Malinga's videos. Develop a yorker. That should be the goal.

FagunerAgun · #7 July 28, 2009, 08:51 PM

pacers need time to mature. Rubel has lot of opportunities for growth. His success relies on his learning ability and its effective application.

cricman · #8 July 28, 2009, 08:52 PM

Riad, I hope Shakib learns fast this WI squad is dire vs spin and it could have been ________ (insert any random spinner) and they would have gotten the Job done. Not to diminsh his accomplishments but he's not a Test match or ODI option.

Hindsight is 20/20 but Mash could have bowled offspin this series and saved the injury

Ajfar · #9 July 28, 2009, 08:59 PM

i wouldn't call riyad an over rated bowler. but you are right, what he has done to WI B team, i have some serious doubt about weather he would have been able to do this had we played the real WI squad, but you can't blame him for that, his job is to get wicket when bowling, and its not his fault that WICB decided to field a B team. i guess we'll have to wait and see how he fairs against other quality opposition. I assume with this performance he has sealed a place in the next test series over nayeem.

tiger_club · #10 July 28, 2009, 09:05 PM

he should be dropped, his performance has been very poor recently.. he is getting smashed all over the place.. we need a economical bowler not speedy jumbo jet.

One thing doesn’t make sense to me – we’ve more superior bowlers in hand – Robin, Nazmul.. why him? Speed dhuye pani khaoar moto obostha hoyse..

Rule is simple either you perform or you’re out.

Rifat · #11 July 28, 2009, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bangladesh_sy
i wouldn't call riyad an over rated bowler. but you are right, what he has done to WI B team, i have some serious doubt about weather he would have been able to do this had we played the real WI squad, but you can't blame him for that, his job is to get wicket when bowling, and its not his fault that WICB decided to field a B team. i guess we'll have to wait and see how he fairs against other quality opposition. I assume with this performance he has sealed a place in the next test series over nayeem.

no worries, bro...there is hope: I love his character and sheer determination to improve at any cost(Just Like Shakib) Imagine what our team would be like with 2 shakibs charging 360 in every direction

HereWeGo · #12 July 28, 2009, 09:50 PM

Rubel is an outstanding bowler.....I see true potential in him and I shall always persue with him....You cannot judge a fast bowler from a slow low wicket.....
Look at the bowl that got Raul lewis bowled...

Anyways I just think Naeem Islam is the most useless player in the team. May be he had the most economical bowling figure today but his bowling looks absolutely ordinary....I know some of you would jump with his first class batting stats but I judge people from what I see and I see absolutely nothing in him. Neither a bowler nor a batsmen...overrated by BC ers

naz_ca · #13 July 28, 2009, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by HereWeGo
Rubel is an outstanding bowler.....I see true potential in him and I shall always persue with him....You cannot judge a fast bowler from a slow low wicket.....
Look at the bowl that got Raul lewis bowled...

Anyways I just think Naeem Islam is the most useless player in the team. May be he had the most economical bowling figure today but his bowling looks absolutely ordinary....I know some of you would jump with his first class batting stats but I judge people from what I see and I see absolutely nothing in him. Neither a bowler nor a batsmen...overrated by BC ers

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u r taking into account a wicket of a lower order batsman of fourth string WI team to evaluate Rubel..! and wht has he done except for that four for?

cricket_king · #14 July 28, 2009, 11:28 PM

Lawl, I'd actually agree with this guy. Rubel is just about as clueless as Shahadat at times, though I'm not going to go THAT far until I see him play a few more matches. But seriously, we gotta stop hyping this guy up. He really has been terribly ineffective of late.

Our pace worries continue...

Kabir · #15 July 28, 2009, 11:40 PM

What do you expect? He's been brought into the side with MINIMUM experience. That's really not the way we should do it.

Beauty is nothing with the brain. Speed is nothing without technique. Rubel = dumb blonde...

Jesus87 · #16 July 29, 2009, 12:43 AM

Rubel should have been in the Under 19 tour in England, it would have helped him more than the West Indies tour as we all have seen little or no improvement. I had high hopes, he still needs more time, hope he plays more domestic cricket and like some member said maybe Robin should take his place and hope the management do something with Shahadat.

Gowza · #17 July 29, 2009, 12:48 AM

if we can afford to have a player who has been playing 8 years with a wealth of experience yet is still really inconsistent why can't we afford a young guy who has just come on the scene who is talented but inconsistent? that is upside down thinking. give these young guys ago, you can't have a senior guy performing just as much and just as little as the young guys and want to keep the senior guy but kick out the young guy.

wiseshah · #18 July 29, 2009, 12:54 AM

too early to judge rubel. he should have debut after few more years. But no doubt he has talent, he will be matured bowler in time.
i think next ODI against WI, najmul deserve a chance instead of him

BANFAN · #19 July 29, 2009, 01:10 AM

Shakib should have kept himself and a spinner for the final overs. They had wickets and it was understandable that they will go all out in the final overs. They are good against the pacers but strugling against the spinners.

It was easy hitting pacers in this wickets. Rubel wasn't bowling normal, may be he was instructed or he himself reduced the pace considerably. It wasn't a good captaincy decision.

Imteaz · #20 July 29, 2009, 01:18 AM

Use Him.

BangladeshFan · #21 July 29, 2009, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by HereWeGo
Rubel is an outstanding bowler.....I see true potential in him and I shall always persue with him....You cannot judge a fast bowler from a slow low wicket.....
Look at the bowl that got Raul lewis bowled...

Anyways I just think Naeem Islam is the most useless player in the team. May be he had the most economical bowling figure today but his bowling looks absolutely ordinary....I know some of you would jump with his first class batting stats but I judge people from what I see and I see absolutely nothing in him. Neither a bowler nor a batsmen...overrated by BC ers

I concur, Naeem is the most over rated not Rubel. I remember Yuvraj taking him to cleaners in that WCT20 match, true yuvraj did that to far better bowlers, but the bowling was absolutely ordinary, too slow and almost no turn. His batting so far looked ordinary as well, those inconsequential hits against India(who was the bowler?) doesnt count. There are too many players who do well in first class and found out in international cricket against quality opposition. For the moment though , he seems ok, but we have to look for a better replacement as Mash seems to be out for a long time.

Rubel is a talent for a team like Bd, where fast bowlers are really scarce. We have to groom whatever we got and look for more with fast bowling camps etc if we are to become a force in int. cricket.

auntu · #22 July 29, 2009, 06:21 AM

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abu2abu · #23 July 29, 2009, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by BangladeshFan
I concur, Naeem is the most over rated not Rubel. I remember Yuvraj taking him to cleaners in that WCT20 match, true yuvraj did that to far better bowlers, but the bowling was absolutely ordinary, too slow and almost no turn. His batting so far looked ordinary as well, those inconsequential hits against India(who was the bowler?) doesnt count. There are too many players who do well in first class and found out in international cricket against quality opposition. For the moment though , he seems ok, but we have to look for a better replacement as Mash seems to be out for a long time.

Rubel is a talent for a team like Bd, where fast bowlers are really scarce. We have to groom whatever we got and look for more with fast bowling camps etc if we are to become a force in int. cricket.

That’s a bit harsh on Naeem. Sure, he’s not a big turner of the ball, but he is first and foremost a batsman. We seem to be forgetting that he opens the batting/bats at 3 in domestic cricket. For BD he is regularly batting and no 7 or 8.

I think he has every chance of getting a big score for BD as soon as he is given a chance up the order. For now, it is very reassuring to have a proper batsman (not a tailender) coming in so low down the order. Especially in nervy situations such as the final few overs of yesterday’s game.

He’s certainly no worse than Farhad Reza, our last batting all-rounder who did precious little with the bat...

Omio · #24 July 29, 2009, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by HereWeGo
Rubel is an outstanding bowler.....I see true potential in him and I shall always persue with him....You cannot judge a fast bowler from a slow low wicket.....
Look at the bowl that got Raul lewis bowled...

Anyways I just think Naeem Islam is the most useless player in the team. May be he had the most economical bowling figure today but his bowling looks absolutely ordinary....I know some of you would jump with his first class batting stats but I judge people from what I see and I see absolutely nothing in him. Neither a bowler nor a batsmen...overrated by BC ers

Naeem,Riad,Raqibul are same. They will have hard time against quality bowling/batting. If we replace with them by Alok,Aftab and Mosarraf will make our team much more stronger.

Catskills · #25 July 29, 2009, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HereWeGo
Rubel is an outstanding bowler.....I see true potential in him and I shall always persue with him....You cannot judge a fast bowler from a slow low wicket.....
Look at the bowl that got Raul lewis bowled...

Anyways I just think Naeem Islam is the most useless player in the team. May be he had the most economical bowling figure today but his bowling looks absolutely ordinary....I know some of you would jump with his first class batting stats but I judge people from what I see and I see absolutely nothing in him. Neither a bowler nor a batsmen...overrated by BC ers

Why are you bashing Naeem in every thread? Do you have anyting personal against him? So you think that what you see is more important than the statistics? To you, the most valuable player is someone whom you see something rather than the statistics? If so, that would be the most weirdest logic. Because logic is based on facts/figures not personal liking/disliking. I hope you will stop bashing him in every thread and let the kid play and grow.