I said it all along: Ramnyake needs to go.

[al Furqaan]

didn't think we should have hired a lankan as a pacer coach, but was willing to give him a shot.

then once he destroyed rajib and reduced his potency akin to that of an 80 year old man's virility, i had enough.

now the very game rajib vows to rid himself of that tall, dark curse, he rips up...coincidence? i think not. the pace is back (he need not be express,thats why we have RBX), the reverse swing is back, and the line and length is as good as its ever been.

add to that an impressive shafi, and a lightning quick if erratic Royal Bengal Express, and mashrafee is no longer needed.

now, he will not take 5ers every day, but for what its worth, this has proven enough. not one single pacer, except Nazmul and Mortaza has improved during Ramanyake's tenure. nazmul was also out of the national squad for most of that time and likely had little to no interaction with Ramanyake. Mortaza was always a good opening bowler in ODIs and his improvement can be attributed to his natural progression.

i said it first, and often i said it alone. but the truth shall set us free.

[Nafi]

We need to stick to the bunch we have. And develop the newbies in this bunch (rubel, robin, shafiul) as well as possible, which is why we need a reliable coach, not someone who reads a cricketing manual.

I would call for a pakistani coach, waqar would be brilliant, even for short term work.

[hoodlum]

I say nurture the youngsters properly and the likes of Rajib are there to help them and to improve their own game all the time.Afterall experience does matters.

[WarWolf]

Bye bye to Mr. Ramanayake.

[AsifTheManRahman]

Originally Posted by Nafi
We need to stick to the bunch we have.

That's my policy. But unfortunately, we haven't been doing that much. Sajed is lost, Robin can't get a game and is often left out of the squad.

I don't have any problems with Shafiul. I called it as a I saw it - he was crap in the first ODI and the fact that it was his debut match isn't an excuse when he hardly even tried to bowl line and length. You can go at six an over on your debut, but going at ten an over like he did in his first spell is inexcusable, especially when we needed quick wickets in the beginning.

Then he did OK in the last couple of ODIs and he definitely has some potential as he has shown in the first inning. But where are the wickets? Don't tell me he was unlucky - sure, he did get an edge off Tendulkar, but he still wasn't penetrating enough for an opening bowler. Other pacers in the pipeline could probably have bowled the opening spell he bowled last night. But my problem isn't there either - he will learn with time and I'm OK with that.

Here's my problem: the guy has only played 7 FC matches. He's not freaking Mohammed Aamer. Do we even know if he's physically fit enough to sustain long spells on relatively dead tracks? Is there any guarantee that after showing glimpses of hope here and there, he won't go downhill like others who were dragged in too early? Test cricket is no joke and I'd rather play some of the more experienced guys like Robin until Shafiul and Rubel have played enough FC games and learned enough tricks to serve us for years. I want long term, not someone who comes in with a bang and leaves silently shortly after, even if it means we're giving up short term gains. My real qualm is with the management, not any individual player.

As for Champaka, well, I think most of us wanted him out even before Rajib's heroics last night. Rajib has to cut down on the number of deliveries he bowls down the leg though, but since he just seems to be finding his rythm back, I say give him some time because in his prime, he was the best Test match fast bowler we had.

[wiseshah]

adios ramanayeke,

get saf or aussie bowling coach

[chol_bd123]

Who said Shahahdat was bowling his old way. 'whatever he may say, it is almost impossible to revert back to your old way of bowling in a matter of days.

the reason why he started bowling around 84-85 mph in the middle was he got a couple of wickets and he had an adrenaline rush.
But he did bowl really well. I wanted a couple more bouncers at 86 mph targeted for their throat.

[Nafi]

one last time, Sajed isnt lost, he's injured long term.

[uss01]

So just because he's sri lankan we should't have hired him? Hmmm.

Originally Posted by al Furqaan
didn't think we should have hired a lankan as a pacer coach, but was willing to give him a shot.

[nycpro96]

Waqar would do wonders.

[shuziburo]

Originally Posted by Nafi
We need to stick to the bunch we have. And develop the newbies in this bunch (rubel, robin, shafiul) as well as possible, which is why we need a reliable coach, not someone who reads a cricketing manual.

I would call for a pakistani coach, waqar would be brilliant, even for short term work.

What you want is a thinking pacer. In fact, if Imran or Sarfraz were coaching, they would be amongst my choices.

[Purbasha T]

Originally Posted by uss01
So just because he's sri lankan we should't have hired him? Hmmm.

I think he meant there were no legendary pacers that appeared from the SL team (well except Vaas maybe but that's all).

[bujhee kom]

Shuza bhai, Isn't Imran Khan an MP/politician in Rawalpindi or Punjab/Peshwar?

[Nafi]

Originally Posted by Purbasha T
I think he meant there were no legendary pacers that appeared from the SL team (well except Vaas maybe but that's all).

I wouldnt mind Vaas do some work with Rasel

[BD Tigers]

what I dont get from the pacers is why they dont go around the wicket to the tail enders. Amit Mishra/Zaheer and now Ishant, they dont know how to bat. So go around the wk, and bowl some bouncers targeting the head. Either they will fend off and gave us a catch or their "thuthi" will break. Either way - I'd love it.

[Murad]

Jokhon kharap kore tokhon shob dosh coach er....

[FagunerAgun]

BD_ tigers, I thinks Zaheer Khan had a century few years back against BD in a partnership with Tendu.

[chol_bd123]

Originally Posted by FagunerAgun
BD_ tigers, I thinks Zaheer Khan had a century few years back against BD in a partnership with Tendu.

no it was 75

[Russell2k7]

wait what do you mean by Rajib got rid of Ramny? U mean he is no longer our bowling coach?

[AsifTheManRahman]

Originally Posted by Nafi
one last time, Sajed isnt lost, he's injured long term.

And I certainly don't want that for another young pacer just because his body isn't ready for Test cricket.

[Gowza]

does anyone actually know if shahadat did change back to his old action? i know he said he was going to or wanted to but that doesn't mean he has. need to get some footage of the old shahadat, the one ramnyake turned him into and then the one in this test match and compare the footage.

[al Furqaan]

Originally Posted by AsifTheManRahman
He's not freaking Mohammed Aamer.

sure aamer has loads of potential, but he also has a test average of 50 or nearly so. rajib's is much better with a better SR to boot, even after his horrendous run of form (read ramanyake) for over a year. sure he's quick, but if our Aussie series wasn't cancelled, i'll bet RBX would have a couple fo 150k deliveries to jot down on his resume as well. he's bowling just as fast as aamer/ishant/malinga on subcontinent wickets. in fact, i'd say he's consistenly quicker than any subcontient bowler barring dilhara fernando on these tracks. he just has to fix his erraticism.

lets just not deify aamer...yet.

[shuziburo]

Originally Posted by bujhee kom
Shuza bhai, Isn't Imran Khan an MP/politician in Rawalpindi or Punjab/Peshwar?

Yep. Unfortunately, neither Imran nor Sarfraz is coaching.

[al Furqaan]

Originally Posted by Gowza
does anyone actually know if shahadat did change back to his old action? i know he said he was going to or wanted to but that doesn't mean he has. need to get some footage of the old shahadat, the one ramnyake turned him into and then the one in this test match and compare the footage.

youtube has his SA and India series highlights with old action.

i can't tell if he's changed it - he said he would, he was fed up, and i take his word at it - so it has to be the factor. the pitch is not like super conducive to pace bowling.

[Dhakablues]

Originally Posted by nycpro96
Waqar would do wonders.

However, why would Waqare join BD team leaving his national coaching contract with PCB? Same for Aaqib Javed ..Wasim is with KKR and happy being the bowling consultant along with Dav Watmore being the head coach...