DS: BCB in talks with Greenidge

TheWatcher · #1 May 3, 2007, 12:52 PM

Former West Indian opening batsman Gordon Greenidge has been approached by the Bangladesh Cricket Board (BCB) for their coach post, it was learnt here.

The 57-year-old Greenidge had initial rounds of talk with Mahbubul Anam, the BCB official during the latter's visit to West Indies for the World Cup.

It was confirmed when Bangladesh's Sports Adviser Tapan Chowdhury, who also was in the Caribbean during that time, remarked yesterday in Dhaka that they have talked with the West Indian great as Bangladesh's batting coach.

Greenidge, who turned 57 on Tuesday, is one of the few in BCB's list to succeed Dav Whatmore, who is scheduled to be relieved after this month's home series against India.

Sri Lanka's Chandika Hathuru-singha and New Zealander John Wright are also believed to be in the board's list but they have not been formally approached yet.

If appointed, this will be Greenidge's second innings with the Bangladesh team. He became the coach of Bangladesh in 1997.

Under his guidance Bangladesh won the ICC Trophy in 1997 which was followed by getting the one-day international status as well as qualification for their first World Cup finals in 1999.

Soon afterwards Greenidge was given the honorary citizenship of the country. He also coached them during the 1999 Cricket World Cup and the team eventually promoted to a Test playing nation after their stunning performance during the World Cup.

Chandika Hathurusingha, a 39-year-old level-III coach is with Sri Lanka A team while John Wright was with India for more than four years.

Fazal · #2 May 3, 2007, 12:55 PM

Where is McInnes 's name? Does that mean he rejected the offer or the other thread have bhua information?

Kabir · #3 May 3, 2007, 01:00 PM

There's nothing confirmed yet. They'll approach everyone first, and then once everyone show their interest, they will be interviewed, and then someone will be appointed. Greenidge's name was in the list that we heard earlier. So it may be that they're still waiting to hear back from McInnes and approaching other coaches at the same time.

cricket_dorshok · #4 May 3, 2007, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Fazal
Where is McInnes 's name? Does that mean he rejected the offer or the other thread have bhua information?

Appointing BD cricket coach is a hot topic, so time for bhua baji. newspaper, tv channel, BCB official all will create some bhua information.

sadi · #5 May 3, 2007, 01:04 PM

I still haven't heard any news about BCB approaching McInnes. I don't think they have any plan to approach him or interview him for this job.

TheWatcher · #6 May 3, 2007, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Fazal
Where is McInnes 's name? Does that mean he rejected the offer or the other thread have bhua information?

That was a Janakantha speculation, this is coming from DS, and I consider DS a much more reliable info source. It also might be the case what Kabir bhai said.

I think there is a good chance that McInnes will refuse the offer to coach Bangladesh (if he is offered) as he is enjoying a high profile job with Australia team. Also, he was very much sick and tired of BCB when he left Bangladesh.

Kabir · #7 May 3, 2007, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sadi
I still haven't heard any news about BCB approaching McInnes. I don't think they have any plan to approach him or interview him for this job.

I see McInnes as a more realistic option. The reason is, he has recently visited BC, and shared some views and concerns. I am positive that he has interest in BD cricket, and he will come if he's invited. So it's really up to the management whether they approach him or not.

Miraz · #8 May 3, 2007, 01:20 PM

I am not a Greenidge fan.

IMO, McInnes or any other Australian Academy coach will be a much better option.

Mohiul · #9 May 3, 2007, 01:27 PM

If McInnes is interested I would go for him. Greenidge is not a bad option as well

Ehsan · #10 May 3, 2007, 01:29 PM

Ok, from my understanding, BCB is actually going for three specialist coaches and one head coach. So, Aquib was approached as the bowling coach, Greenidge as batting coach, and I think we have Salahuddin as the fielding coach. So, who did they approach or plan to approach as the head coach?

On a side note, I would not think approaching Greenidge is a good idea, he is already 57 - that is quite old, and will definitely lack enthusiasm and energy. Moreover, I do not see him as a long term option either. At max he might stay 3-4 years and then he will approach his retiring age.

crazyisland · #11 May 3, 2007, 01:35 PM

I don't think we should hire any coach from WI. They usually have a pretty laidback personality which is not gonna do any good to our players. We need tough minded coach who will bring /keep discipline on and off the field. I don't think Greenidge will be a good choice.

TheWatcher · #12 May 3, 2007, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Miraz
I am not a Greenidge fan.

IMO, McInnes or any other Australian Academy coach will be a much better option.

Miraz bhai, we all want to see Australian kind of professionalism installed in our team. But you have to keep in mind that not all Australians get along well with systems outside their country, we have examples like Greg Chappell and Bennett King to prove that.

Also, if BCB is looking for specialized coaches only, I don't see how McInnes may fit the criterion.

Dhakablues · #13 May 3, 2007, 01:51 PM

I have a mixed feeling about Gordon. He was ther right coach after Amarnath. He contributed towards the batting. Remember, we still have players with some basic problems with their batting techniques. He is still in touch with cricket and was right when he said that Bangladesh was not ready for Test cricket at that time. Certainly, we bemoaned that comment right after the famous Pakistan win. But he was right at that time on hindsight. Its been about 9 years since he coached, is he still as effective? Gordon was selected based on what? I am not certain he brings much after years of absense from competitive cricket. He was/is a selector of West Indies but thats not something that really is lucrative or convincing. I mean, who would want to hire Faruque after he retires in 2098? If only BCB officials would visit this site...

BD-Shardul · #14 May 3, 2007, 02:07 PM

I will be really happy if Gordon becomes our coach. He is a good coach, and more importantly he has heart for Bangladesh cricket. When Bangladesh toured West Indies in 2004, Gordon, after watching Bangladesh's one wicket loss against WI, said, "I still have Bangladesh in my heart."

Some are concerned about his age. I think age will not be a problem. Regarding Bangladesh Cricket, the heart of this batting great is still young and enthusisastic.

aanu_engrr · #15 May 3, 2007, 02:23 PM

GG...k jodi ...BCB appoin kore ....tahole ..BCB ....pagoler porichoi deben ....bcoz he was an angry , moody, and demotivated person.....! I don't believe it!!!or its a rubbish decision ....how do i compare wth DEV n Double .GG....ufff...thats a unbelievable and shocking news ..for... Bangladesh Cricket ......!!!

Ehsan · #16 May 3, 2007, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BD-Shardul
I will be really happy if Gordon becomes our coach. He is a good coach, and more importantly he has heart for Bangladesh cricket. When Bangladesh toured West Indies in 2004, Gordon, after watching Bangladesh's one wicket loss against WI, said, "I still have Bangladesh in my heart."

Emotional Bangladeshi people. So, what if he has Bangladesh in his heart? Was he able to produce results? I do not think he has produced half the results that Dav produced. We need to overcome our emotions and think rationally about the result or outcome of our decisions.

Abd_Bakri · #17 May 3, 2007, 02:32 PM

well people here loves mcinnes... well as ive said in all my posts... i really hope john wright accepts the offer... but anyhow... greenidge would be good for our batters brilliant! and really from what im hearing ... dont think mcinnes is in consideration... no tv channels have reported about it... and daily stars sports reporting is one of the most reliable one... they never spotted mcinnes as a probable candidate... please get john wright !!!

Fazal · #18 May 3, 2007, 02:49 PM

So far so good. Actually I am very happy with the pool of prospective candidates. Ofcourse I have biasness towards McInnes. But at the end, I would be happy with any of them. I think we are not going to loose much replaceing Dav with any of these three .

- I rate Wright slightly higher than Dav. So we will replace Dav with the same kind.

- I think McInnes is the right coach for us right now. We will upgrade interms of dicipline.

- I think Gordon is not that far away from Dav interm of coaching ability. But he may be bringing something else that none of the other brings: and that is backed up with a very successful career as a player. But by only concern is: its not wise to remarry your x-wife/husband hoping that this time everything will be ok.

Bottom line ... I think we will be ok if we can choose any one of them.

TheWatcher · #19 May 3, 2007, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ehsan
Was he able to produce results? I do not think he has produced half the results that Dav produced.

That's an unfair comparison. When Greenidge took over, Bangladesh was a newborn country in international stage. He had do deal with an ametuer board that was dominated by Dhaka clubs, and he had no development program to feed the national team with new talents. When DW took over, things were much better- the board has become, at least, semi professional and we had an excellent HP program to develop new talents.

Just imagine what might happen to Bangladesh team if DW was stuck with players of Sanwar Hossain, Mushfiq Babu, and Tareq Aziz's calibre. I don't think the results would have been any better, if not worse, than what we had seen in Greenidge period.

Tigers_eye · #20 May 3, 2007, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Ehsan
...On a side note, I would not think approaching Greenidge is a good idea, he is already 57 - that is quite old, and will definitely lack enthusiasm and energy. Moreover, I do not see him as a long term option either. At max he might stay 3-4 years and then he will approach his retiring age.

57ebong 57'er uporay quite old
what is the range of just old?
what is the range of almost old?
what is the range of not old? Hopefully I belong to this category.

Nocturnal · #21 May 3, 2007, 03:16 PM

So far, Aquib Javed was approached as the bowling coach, Gordon Greenidge as batting coach, and we have Salahuddin as the fielding coach....so Who would be our Head Coach? or do we really need four different coach?

Tigers_eye · #22 May 3, 2007, 03:16 PM

In Dav's Tenture did we have any batting coach? How about a bowling coach? I am already pumped up with the BCB's idea of having three specialist coaches and then the head guy. But as Fazal, I have a bad feeling the way they are approching. They should get the Head guy first then the Head guy should appoint three assistant coaches. That way between the coaches there is a harmony and no power struggle.

BCB officials'der Pabna'tey free trip dewa dorkar. Electro shock therapy lagbey to get some neurons charged up.

layperson · #23 May 3, 2007, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigers_eye
57ebong 57'er uporay quite old
what is the range of just old?
what is the range of almost old?
what is the range of not old? Hopefully I belong to this category.

Not old er range is less than 30. Apni oitar baire chole gesen already.

Beamer · #24 May 3, 2007, 03:22 PM

Is it wise to pick positional coaches ( bat, bowl etc ) before hiring the main coach? Doesn't seem so to me. Its fine to have extra coaches for different positions, something the team really needs , but , they should be hired after signing the new head coach. The new boss might not like the personality or the methods of the personell hired independent of him. I think it might create unnecessary conflicts due to contrasting philosophies. At the same time, in case of failure, the coach will quickly point out that the failing departments were due to coaches hired before him. I think we should appoint the head coach first. Then, with his consultation, we should fill the needs for positional coaches. They will be working under him and not independently of him. Get your thinking hat on BCB !

akabir77 · #25 May 3, 2007, 03:23 PM

I think BCB is doing this getting the batting, bowling and fielding coach then look for head coach who will oked by all those three cause head coach will be some one who will face the media and coordinate among three and maybe get some strategies...

Now this process doesn't look ok to me.

On other hand may be they have the head coach who told them to go for these people and if they have them then he will become head coach...