What ever happened to Javed Omar?

[WI4EVER]

I have to be honest with you guys, and I'm not trying to pull any legs. But face it, at the moment Bangladesh is lacking an international class batsman. I have been taught a system and it goes like this:

Its called the 40+/30- System. It means a test class batsman should strive to average 40+ in test cricket, and a test class bowler must strive to average 30- in test cricket.

Looking at the records of the Bangladeshi batsmen, none of them have strived to average 40+ in test cricket. I recall of a fellow named Javed Omar, and I really believe his experience and stubborness at the wicket is just what Bangladesh needs. I don't know if he retired or what, but either way someone of his nature deserves a spot in the Bangladeshi test side, should he be available.

Yes, his average of 22.05 suggests he probably will struggle in the test arena. But Bangladesh batsmen all struggle to occupy the crease, as do my WI batsmen. They need a middle order batsman/batsmen who can stay there and have the others bat around him. WI have Chanderpaul and Nash, Bangladesh doesn't have that luxury, but someone of Javed Omar's character would fit perfectly in the order.

[Zeeshan]

He is still playing in the national team...




....as a ghost in the form of Raqibul! 'Nuff said.

[Roni_uk]

People grow old. Same thing happened to JO. We like playing our young blood.

[BD-Shardul]

কঠিন দুর্দান্ত একটা পোস্ট পড়লাম...স্পিটি ভাইয়ের কাছে অবশ্য মনে হবে কেডিপিপি

[Eshen]

JO was a better option for ODI than Zunaed or Imrul currently is. Despite his limitations, he maintained higher average and occupied the crease longer to see off the new ball. I think Siddons got rid of him prematurely.

[Nafi]

Originally Posted by Eshen
JO did not do any worse than Zunaed in ODI. I think Siddons got rid of him prematurely.

Junaid has had far more matchwinning knocks.

JO has had none.

[Eshen]

Originally Posted by Nafi
Junaid has had far more matchwinning knocks.

JO has had none.

Are you talking about the fifty against WI-C? JO made plenty of such fifties against minnows.

[Eshen]

BTW, I am not trashing Zunaed or Imrul. Few years down the road, they will be much better batsmen than JO is. What I am trying to say is both are being brought in the ODI team prematurely.

If you look at Lanka, while they are trying out new openers in the Test team, they are still sticking with experienced openers for the ODI team. We should have taken a similar approach.

[IanW]

I was always a JO fan, but lots of people think batsmen need to do more than occupy the crease.

He also kind of forgot where his off stump was :Z

[MohammedC]

Originally Posted by Eshen
Are you talking about the fifty against WI-C? JO made plenty of such fifties against minnows.

This one against NZL was not against minnows.

http://www.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/361755.html

[al Furqaan]

Originally Posted by Eshen
Are you talking about the fifty against WI-C? JO made plenty of such fifties against minnows.

wrong....JO struggled even against minnows. took 17 balls to get off the mark against HK, despite scoring a somewhat fluent 60+.

and WI C had a bowling attack not much weaker than WI.

Junaid is far better than JO.

[Shehwar]

Well JO has a world record of carrying the bat on debut in test cricket....There is no comparison between JO and Zunaid yet...he is still the country's most recognized test opener and has proved it even in the most testing english swinging conditions....

[Foozy]

JO positive: Occupying creace. Getting the shine off the new ball.
Weakness: Can't make runs. Doesn't know where his stumps are and basically tries to block everything.

Junaed positive: Can smack bowlers to all parts of the ground.
Weakness: Rarely gets going. Usually gets out playing silly shots.

I think there are both goods and bads about Junaed replacing JO. The good thing is that this guy can actually play shots and make runs every now and then regardless of opposition. Bad thing is that far too often he gets out without doing much.

The other thing to note here though is that with more match practice he could only get more consistent. At least he can play shots. I think it was a good move in the end considering that most of our batsmen are volatile in terms of sticking around and making runs anyways regardless of the shine of the ball. In that regard its better that they all contribute.

[nobody]

Originally Posted by Eshen
Are you talking about the fifty against WI-C? JO made plenty of such fifties against minnows.

You forgot the NZ one conveniently. BTW how many MoM JO had? How many 50 JO have in testing condition in NZ, Aus, England not in feather beds of subcontinent

[Akib]

Originally Posted by al Furqaan

and WI C had a bowling attack not much weaker than WI.

Got to agree with that. Most of the big names missing were batsman.

[Shehwar]

Javed Omar: Detailed Career Batting Stats

[Nafi]

Originally Posted by nobody
You forgot the NZ one conveniently. BTW how many MoM JO had? How many 50 JO have in testing condition in NZ, Aus, England not in feather beds of subcontinent

Dont forget south africa.

[chol_bd123]

Javed omar is old yet. he is only like 25 -27. that is not old

[imran78]

I heard a radio foorti interview with him a few week ago and he said he is still hoping to come back to the national team. So he is by no means retired or out of the reckoning for the test team..provided he can produce some really big scores in the domestic first class matches.

He has no chance for the ODI team..but if he can correct his technique and put up some good scores he may have a chance for the test team.

[FagunerAgun]

Once JO used to help BD bat 50 overs in ODIs.
But JS does not like him for some reasons, nor does the chief selector.

[beshideshi]

JO was needed in the pre DW era. BD has at least 4 better openers than him[6 if ICLers return], tamim,Zunayed,Imrul,Mehrab,SN,Nazim
his technique was pretty poor, and he never wins mathces, BD needs a mathc winner, not a person who carries the bat through an innings defeat

[bangla-red]

Originally Posted by beshideshi
JO was needed in the pre DW era. BD has at least 4 better openers than him[6 if ICLers return], tamim,Zunayed,Imrul,Mehrab,SN,Nazim
his technique was pretty poor, and he never wins mathces, BD needs a mathc winner, not a person who carries the bat through an innings defeat

Nazim is sh*t. No way.

[Nadim]

We don't need him coz we have better player in the NT atm

[dark mage]

Originally Posted by ZeeshanM
He is still playing in the national team...




....as a ghost in the form of Raqibul! 'Nuff said.

Originally Posted by bangla-red
Nazim is sh*t. No way.

I completely agree with you and I think Raqibul is a way more better batsman than Javed Omar. Javed didn't move his feet that much, didn't know how to pull and had a very ugly batting style and stance.Most of Javed's runs came from the 3rd man or fine leg region which shows how edgy he was. He only survived by sheer will, luck and had good temperment but his technique was definitely lacking as he rarely scored from infront of the wicket. Raquib is definitely alot better.
Nazim is definitely better than Mehrab Jr. and he might even be better than our minnow-basher Sharier Nafees. Nizim wasn't given that many chances in international cricket. He was only given oppurtunity in T20's but next to nil in ODI's.

[AsifTheManRahman]

Originally Posted by chol_bd123
Javed omar is old yet. he is only like 25 -27. that is not old

He is in his 30s.