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July 8, 2007, 03:40 AM
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Lara, Sachin....Ashraful?
Did you read Ian Chappell's article Joining the Immortals? He mentions Ashraful as one of the potential superstars of the next decade. Following is an excerpt from that piece
" Ashraful is an interesting case; he has loads of talent and the ability to thrill crowds with his daring stroke play. He's only just approaching his twenty third birthday despite debuting in 2001 and he's also been burdened with the captaincy of an over-matched team. Nevertheless, judging by his latest Test century, the captaincy may provide the inspiration to bring much-needed maturity to his batting, making him a standout performer in a beleaguered Bangladesh outfit."
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July 8, 2007, 03:56 AM
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Ian Chappell ajaira kotha koyna. Ash with be there with atleast 25 centuries by the time he retires. But joining the likes of Lara (genius), Tendy (talent and hard work), and Ponting (talent and harder work)? That's a whole other level only Sanga and KP are likely to reach.
May Ash prove me wrong about getting into the 30+ test hundreds club.
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July 8, 2007, 03:59 AM
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Nice article....
well, it remains on Ash to prove his worthiness...
enough has been said about him already.
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July 8, 2007, 04:04 AM
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Nice read. Nothing to be excited. Everything depends on Ash. Hope he will prove himself worthy.
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July 8, 2007, 07:33 AM
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Chappell is just trying to find potential superstars of the future. Ashraful definitely is in the race.
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July 8, 2007, 08:04 AM
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Ash is getting Chappell's comments because he has just scored a century. To be a great player, let alone someone like Sachin or Lara, he will need to do it more often. Then he will get good words from Chappell and everyone all the time.
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July 8, 2007, 08:08 AM
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ashraful is the most talented batsman of our team. but if he could choose his shots carefully he will be a great for sure.
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July 8, 2007, 08:25 AM
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Not the words " NEXT DECADE "
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July 8, 2007, 09:22 AM
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I'll be satisfied if he becomes the next Michael Atherton to be honest.
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July 8, 2007, 09:26 AM
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Please some one tell Ashraful about this comment so that we can get another 10 single digit score from the going to join the greats.
Pure Rubbish. It's performance that matters; not getting praise from whoever-it-is. Vinod Kambli even with his terrific start of career is completely lost! Ash has done nothing so far to be named in the same list as the greats. He is not yet comparable even to the fringe players of other test playing nations, bar Zimbabwe may be.
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July 8, 2007, 09:35 AM
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If he wants to make it,he will have to abandon this Eid habit.
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July 8, 2007, 09:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shafin
If he wants to make it,he will have to abandon this Eid habit.
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Absolutely.
However, he's right about noticing the will to do well as a captain. In a TC interview with Ashraful, he mentioned that himself...that if he has to keep his position as a captain without much objections, he has to do well himself first, and then he can think of others to do well.
It's not too late for Ashraful yet. I think he's going to be the only one to be previleged to learn at the job...not his skills, but his temperament. He's got about 12 to 15 more years of cricket in him. He'll be at least 100+ opportunities to prove his worth by then.
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July 8, 2007, 09:54 AM
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He has played only two tests as a captain. It is too early to come to any conclusion about him handling the pressure well or vice versa. However, I agree he has the potential and sky is the limit for him.
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July 8, 2007, 09:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sadi
He has played only two tests as a captain. It is too early to come to any conclusion about him handling the pressure well or vice versa.
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It's not the ability to handle the pressure, but the ability to motivate himself to think that he should play in a way that other players can learn from him. And not to mention, the "rare" ability to think that his position as a captain isn't a given constant...he must earn it every single series.
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July 8, 2007, 10:00 AM
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Why is he reffering our team to a "over-matched team", i hate "chapel" brothers
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July 8, 2007, 10:02 AM
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I've seen enough evidence during those two tests to suggest that he's still very much susceptible to moments of rank stupidity. If one of those two consecutive reverse sweeps he attempted against Murali had have got him out, this forum would have seen approxiamately 87932423 angry threads berating him.
Similarly, if that silly paddle sweep he tried when he was on 80 in the second test had got him out, we'd be lamenting on how little he's developed as oppposed to how much.
And that's before I even mention the way he went out hooking in the first innings of the first test when they'd put a man on the fence for that exact reason.
In spite of all that, he actually showed a bit more patience than he normally used to.
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July 8, 2007, 10:06 AM
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No one is saying that he showed COMPLETE determination. Hell no. Complete determination is an art...and he has to master it. It's not that he can go to an art store and by it by kgs.
In the past two Tests, he showed that he's determined to be completely determined.
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July 8, 2007, 10:12 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesBond
Why is he reffering our team to a "over-matched team", i hate "chapel" brothers
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Because that's what we are...
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July 8, 2007, 10:12 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kabir
In the past two Tests, he showed that he's determined to be completely determined.
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It's a start I suppose
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July 8, 2007, 10:17 AM
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If Sachin, Lara ,Ponting were in a weak team like BD, do you think they would had been so successful as they are right now !! For consistent performances you need a solid batting line up ------especially to score century you need a partnership. For Ash.'s recent century he got ample support from Mushy , if not Ash. would ended not out with out century !!! Moreover , when you go to bat when team is down badly like 25 for 4 for most of the time , mentally you don't have enough strength to bat and thats happening to Ashraful most of the times !! I think we should give Ash. more credits than Sachin, Lara and Ponting for performing in unfriendly situations.
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July 8, 2007, 10:18 AM
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Whatever Ash may do in the future.... at present he has surely been able to put the cricits/writers/fans in a BIG BIG dilemma! One moment he plays like a stupid and everyone mocks him and writes him off.. and the next moment he tears apart the best bowling of the world and even Boycotts mom starts to praise him!
One thing is very sure is that like his own form... peoples opinion about him has remained confused and inconsistant between the best and the worst!
Now thats called Charisma!
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July 8, 2007, 11:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sadi
He has played only two tests as a captain. It is too early to come to any conclusion about him handling the pressure well or vice versa. However, I agree he has the potential and sky is the limit for him.
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He says that he likes to take challange. Quoting from his interview with TC
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I challenge myself against Sri Lanka. They talk a lot in the field and actually that makes me more determined to show something. I also enjoy the challenge posed by Murali. I say to myself that I won’t let him beat my bat.
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This means he plays well when he is under pressure. I see a bright future of him as a captaining performer as he has to be under pressure every moment as a captain.
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July 8, 2007, 11:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WarWolf
Nice read. Nothing to be excited. Everything depends on Ash. Hope he will prove himself worthy.
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What I was going to say!!!
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July 8, 2007, 11:40 AM
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"With its insatiable appetite, the game has a habit of suddenly spawning rising stars" and surprisingly he did not discuss SA, Aus or Srilanka. The thread title is very misleading and #21 clearly expresses the gist of this article. For #20 I would like to mention that Tatendu Taibu and going a little down Steve Tikolo did not require much help from the team or partners to perform and establish their class and abilities in international arena. #10 has another example where it becomes clearer that perform and exercise truism to your profession and that only can bring you the fruit of being a part of legendary performances.
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July 8, 2007, 11:47 AM
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Who really cares as long as our team is losing the way it is losing?
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