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October 10, 2003, 09:11 PM
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Shab-e-Barat
guys, I am wondering...is Shab-e-Barat just a bangali thing? Because no one seems to know about it here in Canada. Please clarify this for me if you can....thanks!
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October 10, 2003, 09:25 PM
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Na..Na. All the Muslim People I know here in Canada are well aware about it.
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October 10, 2003, 09:32 PM
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Any one who read Hadith will know about Shab-E-Barat.
The only deshi thing that we added to this is the Halua and fireworks. No one else does it.
[Edited on 11-10-2003 by Rajputro : I stand corrected by Ehsan]
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October 10, 2003, 09:43 PM
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The night of Shab ebarat-Salaams on this magnificent night.
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October 10, 2003, 09:47 PM
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The only deshi thing that we added to this is the Halua and fireworks. No one else does it.
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Also the only things I cared for during Shab-e-Barat.
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October 10, 2003, 09:52 PM
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Shab-E-Barat is not that well known to people as it is mentioned in Hadith rather than Quran. Some people believe more on Quran as Hadith some time might be wrong, as it (Hadith) is a collection of info from different people who so ever heard or saw Prophet Muhammad (sm) performing or saying it.
Pompous bro, Wanna expand on that? I don't have a solid knowledge about this phenomena but just thought to share whatever I knew.
[Edited on 11-10-2003 by ehsan]
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October 10, 2003, 09:54 PM
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Some people also call Shab-E-Barat as Laylatul-Barat.
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October 10, 2003, 10:34 PM
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thanks guys...i'll pass this info onto my friend. He claimed it was a bengali innovation...LOL!
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October 10, 2003, 10:53 PM
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Here is a good link. Go there and search for "Lailatul Barat".
http://www.daar-ul-ehsaan.org/Shabaan2.HTM
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October 10, 2003, 11:15 PM
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A google search might give more info. But so far I read, the way we observe this night is more to do with our culture, mainly biased/inspired by Persian thoughts, than by Prophetic Traditions. There are some hadiths referring Shab e Barat, but some muftis claim that their ‘chains of narrations’ are weak. Allah knows best. But in general, the month of Sha’ban has great importance in Islam.
Ahh, halwa and ruti of Shab e Barat. Among the many other things that we are missing here.
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October 11, 2003, 04:56 AM
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It's not followed in the Islamic community of Australia.
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October 11, 2003, 11:25 AM
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October 11, 2003, 03:17 PM
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Well shab-e-barat is quite an interesting night! much of what is associated with it particularly in the sub-continent is not true. However, its the 15th night of a very important month of the Islamic Calendar, Sha'ban. Many scholars are of the opinion that this month should be seen as a preparation for the next month which is Ramadan. Ramadan is not just about fasting of course to state the obvious. It means refraining from many other bad habits. It is like recharging your faith, retraining your soul- 11 months of worldy affairs takes its toll if you know what I mean. Think of it like mandatory fire drills! It serves the same purpose to an extent. To remind yourself of your mortality, fragility and of course your ultimate objective on Earth. The reality is rarely do such realizations dawn on people on the first day of ramadan. The month of Sha'ban is the month where you are supposed to start PREPARING for the month of Ramadan spiritually and mentally. So that when it arrives, you can take full advantage of it. This preparations include fasting and reading up more on your faith, especially the Quran. I personally read perhaps 5 lines a day. Since I am not particularly bright or perceptive it takes me time to sit and reflect on their meanings. But thats not all. Its perhaps not a bad idea to sit down and make a list of things that you wanna achieve during the month of ramadan..like actually pick up a pen and paper and write down your aims- what you wanna be doing more and what you wanna give up on once you come out of ramadan. So those are few things, Sha'ban is significant for. Shabe Barat is the night in the middle of this important month, and as long as one remembers that, I think we are fine. The thing is I am no scholar, so don't take my word for it.
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October 11, 2003, 03:36 PM
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Sometimes non-scholar say just the right thing that scholars even if they want to - can not convey. Good post pompous!
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October 11, 2003, 06:34 PM
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Sometimes non-scholar say just the right thing that scholars even if they want to - can not convey. Good post pompous!
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And on that note , I would like to add these sufi qoutes which is in the same vein.
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Intelligence is the shadow of objective Truth. How can the shadow vie with sunshine
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Rumi. on "Intelligence and Real Perception"
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Of this there is no academic proof in the world; For it is hidden, and hidden, and hidden.
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Rumi, on "True Reality"
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October 11, 2003, 07:29 PM
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ooo, I like the quote on intelligence.. shadow vying with sunshine
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October 11, 2003, 09:51 PM
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Originally posted by Hasib
It's not followed in the Islamic community of Australia.
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errrr... Hasib who told you that? Shabebarat was followed in Brisbane last night by the mosques.
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October 12, 2003, 03:11 AM
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Apperantly not in Sydney... from what I've heard... (I live in a small town in QLD... not Brisbane)
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