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November 11, 2012, 10:08 PM
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Does the Bangladesh cricket team deserve its Test status?
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When Bangladesh made their Test match debut 12 years ago to the day, the cricketing world was much different to the one we know today.
It was also a bright new dawn for cricket in Bangladesh - the nation of 160 million people finally getting their chance to sit at cricket's top table.
When Aminul Islam cracked 145 to lay the foundations for cricket's newest country to score 400 all out in their maiden Test innings against India, the International Cricket Council's decision to elevate Bangladesh appeared wise.
Bangladesh's Test record
v Australia: P4 L4
v England: P8 L8
v India: P7 L6 D1
v New Zealand: P9 L8 D1
v Pakistan: P8 L8
v South Africa: P8 L8
v Sri Lanka: P12, L12
v West Indies: P8 L4 W2 D2
v Zimbabwe: P9 L5 W1 D3
Key: P = played, L = lost, D = drawn, W = won.
Unfortunately, it has not gone to plan since. The Tigers have lost 63 of their 73 Tests since admission, with their three wins coming against Zimbabwe at home and against a West Indies side without their best players because of a strike.
Those are depressing statistics, so what can be done to improve their international standing?
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/20116974
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November 11, 2012, 10:20 PM
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Short answer is 'No' but what or who really decides what BD deserve? The argument of this (and like ones) always tend to be the that team in question hasn't won match. But to look at it that way is to boil down the game in very myopic view.
The fact BD can surprise anyone, pitting the lowest ranked with higher ones is what makes the game interesting.
But nice try Dman. Nice try.
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November 11, 2012, 10:29 PM
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If you would ask me before tamim, sakib came in the team......answer would be noooooo....but now absoluty yessssss. Mark my word... u will see the difference in this series....go bd go...
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November 11, 2012, 10:52 PM
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answer is a big NO but ICC is hungry for money and Bangladesh is a cricket mad nation. You do the math ...
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November 11, 2012, 10:54 PM
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What a question Try something different buddy
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November 11, 2012, 11:02 PM
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Does a question like this deserve to be asked when we play test matches every 11 months? If the wolves inside the Indian/British/Australian media can find nothing else to whine about...take away our test status ICC, you have killed test cricket anyways with T20 and the cheerleaders.
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November 11, 2012, 11:04 PM
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Man, if Bangladesh played for real we'd kick everyone so bad they'd go home and cry to their WAGS and beg for the strap-on.
Its obvious to anyone who knows anything about cricket that Bangladeshis just mess around. We're too good to play with the likes of the Test nations seriously. We need a real challenge!
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November 11, 2012, 11:05 PM
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As a Bangladeshi: Hell yeah! The passion, the untapped talent, the potential market etc.
As a cricket fan: Not yet. Endemic ignorance, corruption, nepotism etc from key decision makers stagnating and sabotaging where Bangladesh ought to be.
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November 12, 2012, 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Sohel
As a Bangladeshi: Hell yeah! The passion, the untapped talent, the potential market etc.
As a cricket fan: Not yet. Endemic ignorance, corruption, nepotism etc from key decision makers stagnating and sabotaging where Bangladesh ought to be.
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This!!!
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November 12, 2012, 02:04 AM
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DMan, you are a guest here. Stop being a troll. People are being too nice to you. Maybe because you are West Indian; Bangladeshis like you; so keep it that way. There are plenty of other topics you can discuss. Game is less than a day away, focus on that.
Question like that raised by an annoying Indian or Pakistani would result in instant ban.
Just for your info: Bangladesh won a test series against West Indies in WI. Not many countries have achieved that.
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November 12, 2012, 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by iDumb
Question like that raised by an annoying Indian or Pakistani would result in instant ban.
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I do find the question boring and discussed to death - but seriously? An instant ban? Out of curiosity, are you a moderator?
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Just for your info: Bangladesh won a test series against West Indies in WI. Not many countries have achieved that.
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Against a second string side - context bro.
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November 12, 2012, 03:25 AM
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The more chocolate i eat, the fatter i will get.
The more matches BD play, the better they will get.
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November 12, 2012, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by shakibrulz
I do find the question boring and discussed to death - but seriously? An instant ban? Out of curiosity, are you a moderator?
Against a second string side - context bro.
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context? Man people just want to downplay Bangladeshi wins thats all. None of these articles mention the cheats shoiab aktar was when tampering the ball while about to lose to us, or the cheater weaket keeper latif or whatever his name is taking balls from the ground to appeal for out which was given or the other cheater in Multan try9ing to steal runs when 1 wicket away from defeat. people count that as a loss for bd when writing crap articles like that. But we know exactly what happened.
Regarding west indies, it was then their best 11 that fielding. There is no such a thing as second string team. WI A would be a second string team. They represented West indies in that series. If Shakib and Tamim says, we quit and Bangladesh goes and loses all the games, no body is gonna accept an excuse, it's a second string bd team you defeated, so it doesn't count.
So stop believing all the bullcrap people write or say. bangladesh whitewashed a series in West Indies home ground that most countries have failed in their cricket history. That is a great achievement.....and people need to acknowledge that. If you gonna put your OPINIon (Asterick) next to that series, then I wans asterics next to Pakistani win against us, because they took that series away from us by cheating. Let's be fair.
And Let's respect Bangladesh team. Cricket is so much more colorful because of us.. it's a dying game.
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November 12, 2012, 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by shakibrulz
I do find the question boring and discussed to death - but seriously? An instant ban? Out of curiosity, are you a moderator?
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no I am not a moderator, and everyone should be thankful for that. That was my opinion it should be an instant ban because 99% of the time, it would be troll trying to rile up ppl. You don't go to a poor man's house and mock how his house looks, you are a guest there and it's his house. period!
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November 11, 2012, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by DMan
Does the Bangladesh cricket team deserve its Test status?
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Do you deserve to wear underwear?
sorry if it sounds odd, but I feel similar at your/BBC's question.
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November 12, 2012, 03:28 AM
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November 11, 2012, 11:10 PM
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What is the objective of this thread? You raised the issue of striping BD off the test status only when BD started to show someone improvement.The top test nations routinely decline to play with BD and continue to reschedule or defer the tours. So BD's inclusion did not hinder the top 8 countries.
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November 12, 2012, 01:51 AM
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November 12, 2012, 02:05 AM
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sorry it was a bbc link, i didn't realize it. My apologies. F* BBC.
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November 12, 2012, 04:06 AM
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At OP - fairly arbitrary IMO - you have to take into account the potential income, popularity of the sport, along with the performance aspect. This team has two world class players along with a bunch of decent ones. And they've had their moments too. Hopefully it's going to get better with players like Anamul, Mominul and even possibly Asif and Shoummo coming up.
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November 12, 2012, 06:47 AM
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You can't give the answer at once. You should calculate many things to make a answer. Their past performance, present situation, future, their crowd, passion to the game. If you think everything, the answer will come 'yes'.
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November 12, 2012, 07:39 AM
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something really surprise me, why every one is after BD's test status? why not Zimbabwe? I believe they still have the test status and they are behind us. No body even questioned about west indies test status when the were white washed by BD in their home. Current BD test team is as good as New zeland . New zeland were lucky that they didn't play test with us in their last tour. Lets compare BD with west indies after this series is over....
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November 12, 2012, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by BlindSupporterofBD
something really surprise me, why every one is after BD's test status? why not Zimbabwe? I believe they still have the test status and they are behind us. No body even questioned about west indies test status when the were white washed by BD in their home. Current BD test team is as good as New zeland . New zeland were lucky that they didn't play test with us in their last tour. Lets compare BD with west indies after this series is over....
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Hope we can do that...that will be a good situation to be in. Eagerly waiting to see a fatafati performance from TI and Nazim tomorrow, if batting first....
People don't talk about Zim, because they were competitive once, so they can probably do it again, they took a self exile when they fell bellow us, And they have proven that they have improved and are better than us by beating us in their comeback test...
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November 12, 2012, 08:21 AM
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People don't talk about Zim, because they were competitive once, so they can probably do it again, they took a self exile when they fell bellow us, And they have proven that they have improved and are better than us by beating us in their comeback test... [/quote]
Yes they (zim) have beaten us last time,, but it doesn't mean they are better than us, They are 10th and we are 9th in ranking . Last match we have played with Ind, SL, NZ & WI (in ODI) we have beaten all of them. Does it mean we are better than them in ODI?
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November 12, 2012, 08:23 AM
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Yes.
Next question?
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