What is next for Bangladesh?

[ahms]

".....What is happening in world cricket [is[ there are divisions where you have four or five world teams who are at the top and they want to go it alone and they want to play more cricket between themselves because they have the bargaining power," -- Joel Garner. "We have to understand we have to get from the position of number eight to be in those top four to be a force to be reckoned with in world cricket." --- he said to WI team.

I just would like point to our cricket team that lets not end the progress here. Lets try harder to reach at the top 5 or 6 at least. We, all know, there is big difference between Ban and Ind or Sri. Almost 8 out 11 players are match winners for them. We have long way to go. But lazy or late back attitude will make this that much longer if at all. I suggest, team should start preparing immidiate after Eid break. There should be a fitness camp for our players. World is with the winners as always.

Post your opinion with regards to preparation before next match in January.

[bujhee kom]

Garner is God!

[Purbasha T]

Originally Posted by bujhee kom
Garner is God!

Sorry, bro; but that's shirk. May God forgive you for your unintentional blunder.

....

Agreed, ahms. Our players have to be on their toes onwards.

[Zunaid]

Originally Posted by Purbasha T
Sorry, bro; but that's shirk. May God forgive you for your unintentional blunder.

....

Agreed, ahms. Our players have to be on their toes onwards.

Garner is God. Completely intentional

As myself.

[kalpurush]

Originally Posted by Zunaid
Garner is God. Completely intentional

As myself.

May God forgive you for your intentional blunder.

[auntu]

Originally Posted by kalpurush
May God forgive you for your intentional blunder.

Amin.
Let his mercy on us all so that we can understand.

[ahms]

Originally Posted by bujhee kom
Garner is God!

Well, at least Garner understood, what is at stake for the future of West Indies Cricket. And it is ture for other lower order cricket teams. Bangladeshi think tank needs to think hard and give a solid direction to the future of Bangladeshi cricket. With limited pool of players, Ban cricketing future looks very bleak.

[lasith]

Money is playing a big part,It's not good for cricket

[zainab]

If ICC follow the route of the Test championship, then BD has the possibility of being knocked out. ZIM will not achieve Test status now, they might give Ireland Test status because they are fighting hard for it. BD achieved Test status very easily,was not ready for Test status for another 10 yrs, they have it in their hands, but it looks like they will throw it away. If this happens, then I am afraid that they will never be a Test nation again and will have to fight to enter competitions like what is happening with the Associate teams.

It seems that all the money BCB is spending on the coaching team and the players will be wasted, because the batting, bowling and fielding coaches are hopeless. Most of all, the players still fail to understand that within 2 years their Test status is on the line.
The responsibility lies on the BCB and Jamie Siddons. Why are they paying him these big bucks?
Minimal improvement since his tenure, he should really try to improve these players with tougher training camps instead of running back to Australia after each series.

[bujhee kom]

"Garner is God" is an expression of modern English vocabulary/spoken sentence structure. This God as Garner is NOT the GOD. It is not shrik or such as nobody said here '"Garner is our Creator" or Allah the Most Merciful and the Most Powerful and the Most Forgiving and the Most Mysterious of all of our combined comprehention'. I want you all to understand that Allah Subhanatala is NOT a vague, childish, whimsical, jumpy, toy concept of a Mind that understands very little (again read 'NOT') and does not (read actually He DOES) understand and cannont read the simple writing and minds of his very simple creation/child!

We have a problem here, we get jumpy as soon as we read something and before we could simply understand what the true intention/meaning behind what people say we start criticizing and correcting members regarding 'shirk', Bengali/Hindi/Urdu language or about Awami League/BNP issue when it comes to the late BongoBondhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman (RIP) and the late President General Zia-Ur Rahman (RIP) and refering to some other threads where I have encountered these.

About the 'Garner is God' or 'Such and such is god' is a term we use in contemporary English(may be in not all society, but some societies, and remember we do come here in BC from many differnet background, beliefe, schooling, understanding, up-bringing and cultural background, this term using god as somebody is NEVER intented to bring sombody at the God's level or to bring the God Almighty to a mere mortal's (who is his creation) level, and brothers this is coming from some one who read and lead 6 Khutbas on 6 different Fridays in his 39 years of life in front of a small but decent number of Moslem American soldiers in the US, Turkey and Morocco. I am no fallen soul, I have my conscience clear and I Do know where I am coming from. I just simply urge you all brothers that you show restrain in saying things and hurting people's soul before truly understand what is being said (and this is also about the other threads and other events). We all have our duties in life and induvidual mission in life, find that mission, follow and walk on that path and contemplate and always seek, search and find the answer. Do not get blinded by simple vague archaic ideas and wordings, it won't bring any positive result and it will only take us down the drain like a flushing toilet. We must refine and regain our consciousness everyday. And embrace and love and care for all living being that He the Almighty created (that includes that athiest, jewish, christian, catholic, agnostic, hindu, buddhist, gay, lesbian, TV, Roma, Zain, two legged, four legged, the ones that crawl on their chest and all) and in the process let go of our arrogance and ego, because Allah the Almighty dislikes that and clearly states that in the Al-Quran and Al-Islam!

Allah be praised and Assalumu Alaikum!

If this rift, annoyance continues I just simply have to not come to BC, I do not want to fight with you all or hurt any one of your feelings, disrespect our mother tongue or your faith and in exchange I do not want to be hurt or misunderstood by you either. Peace and love.

Thank you my dearest beloved Dr. Zuniad bhai.


Now back to cricket, man, I worshiped that fast bowler Joel Garner as a teen-ager and I still do (again from a non-symbolic and not worshipping in a temple to the highest being point of view)

[FagunerAgun]

Originally Posted by bujhee kom
"Garner is God" is an expression of modern English vocabulary/spoken sentence structure. This God as Garner is NOT the GOD. It is not shrik or such as nobody said here '"Garner is our Creator" or Allah the Most Merciful and the Most Powerful and the Most Forgiving and the Most Mysterious of all of our combined comprehention'. I want you all to understand that Allah Subhanatala is NOT a vague, childish, whimsical, jumpy, toy concept of a Mind that understands very little (again read 'NOT') and does not (read actually He DOES) understand and cannont read the simple writing and minds of his very simple creation/child!

We have a problem here, we get jumpy as soon as we read something and before we could simply understand what the true intention/meaning behind what people say we start criticizing and correcting members regarding 'shirk', Bengali/Hindi/Urdu language or about Awami League/BNP issue when it comes to the late BongoBondhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman (RIP) and the late President General Zia-Ur Rahman (RIP) and refering to some other threads where I have encountered these.

About the 'Garner is God' or 'Such and such is god' is a term we use in contemporary English(may be in not all society, but some societies, and remember we do come here in BC from many differnet background, beliefe, schooling, understanding, up-bringing and cultural background, this term using god as somebody is NEVER intented to bring sombody at the God's level or to bring the God Almighty to a mere mortal's (who is his creation) level, and brothers this is coming from some one who read and lead 6 Khutbas on 6 different Fridays in his 39 years of life in front of a small but decent number of Moslem American soldiers in the US, Turkey and Morocco. I am no fallen soul, I have my conscience clear and I Do know where I am coming from. I just simply urge you all brothers that you show restrain in saying things and hurting people's soul before truly understand what is being said (and this is also about the other threads and other events). We all have our duties in life and induvidual mission in life, find that mission, follow and walk on that path and contemplate and always seek, search and find the answer. Do not get blinded by simple vague archaic ideas and wordings, it won't bring any positive result and it will only take us down the drain like a flushing toilet. We must refine and regain our consciousness everyday. And embrace and love and care for all living being that He the Almighty created (that includes that athiest, jewish, christian, catholic, agnostic, hindu, buddhist, gay, lesbian, TV, Roma, Zain, two legged, four legged, the ones that crawl on their chest and all) and in the process let go of our arrogance and ego, because Allah the Almighty dislikes that and clearly states that in the Al-Quran and Al-Islam!

Allah be praised and Assalumu Alaikum!

If this rift, annoyance continues I just simply have to not come to BC, I do not want to fight with you all or hurt any one of your feelings, disrespect our mother tongue or your faith and in exchange I do not want to be hurt or misunderstood by you either. Peace and love.

Thank you my dearest beloved Dr. Zuniad bhai.


Now back to cricket, man, I worshiped that fast bowler Joel Garner as a teen-ager and I still do (again from a non-symbolic and not worshipping in a temple to the highest being point of view)

Dear Bk, this is well stated with clarification that I agree on.

[Zeeshan]

Originally Posted by bujhee kom
"Garner is God" is an expression of modern English vocabulary/spoken sentence structure. This God as Garner is NOT the GOD. It is not shrik or such as nobody said here '"Garner is our Creator" or Allah the Most Merciful and the Most Powerful and the Most Forgiving and the Most Mysterious of all of our combined comprehention'. I want you all to understand that Allah Subhanatala is NOT a vague, childish, whimsical, jumpy, toy concept of a Mind that understands very little (again read 'NOT') and does not (read actually He DOES) understand and cannont read the simple writing and minds of his very simple creation/child!

We have a problem here, we get jumpy as soon as we read something and before we could simply understand what the true intention/meaning behind what people say we start criticizing and correcting members regarding 'shirk', Bengali/Hindi/Urdu language or about Awami League/BNP issue when it comes to the late BongoBondhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman (RIP) and the late President General Zia-Ur Rahman (RIP) and refering to some other threads where I have encountered these.

About the 'Garner is God' or 'Such and such is god' is a term we use in contemporary English(may be in not all society, but some societies, and remember we do come here in BC from many differnet background, beliefe, schooling, understanding, up-bringing and cultural background, this term using god as somebody is NEVER intented to bring sombody at the God's level or to bring the God Almighty to a mere mortal's (who is his creation) level, and brothers this is coming from some one who read and lead 6 Khutbas on 6 different Fridays in his 39 years of life in front of a small but decent number of Moslem American soldiers in the US, Turkey and Morocco. I am no fallen soul, I have my conscience clear and I Do know where I am coming from. I just simply urge you all brothers that you show restrain in saying things and hurting people's soul before truly understand what is being said (and this is also about the other threads and other events). We all have our duties in life and induvidual mission in life, find that mission, follow and walk on that path and contemplate and always seek, search and find the answer. Do not get blinded by simple vague archaic ideas and wordings, it won't bring any positive result and it will only take us down the drain like a flushing toilet. We must refine and regain our consciousness everyday. And embrace and love and care for all living being that He the Almighty created (that includes that athiest, jewish, christian, catholic, agnostic, hindu, buddhist, gay, lesbian, TV, Roma, Zain, two legged, four legged, the ones that crawl on their chest and all) and in the process let go of our arrogance and ego, because Allah the Almighty dislikes that and clearly states that in the Al-Quran and Al-Islam!

Allah be praised and Assalumu Alaikum!

If this rift, annoyance continues I just simply have to not come to BC, I do not want to fight with you all or hurt any one of your feelings, disrespect our mother tongue or your faith and in exchange I do not want to be hurt or misunderstood by you either. Peace and love.

Thank you my dearest beloved Dr. Zuniad bhai.


Now back to cricket, man, I worshiped that fast bowler Joel Garner as a teen-ager and I still do (again from a non-symbolic and not worshipping in a temple to the highest being point of view)

Holy Cow! (and my phrasing has nothing to do with religion...so let's not start another debate here folks...lol). I have never seen Bk bhai reply with so much eloquence, fire, venom, zeal and passion here. He murdered it.

[pichchi]

Originally Posted by ZeeshanM
Holy Cow! (and my phrasing has nothing to do with religion...so let's not start another debate here folks...lol). I have never seen Bk bhai reply with so much eloquence, fire, venom, zeal and passion here. He murdered it.

[Zunaid]

BK bhai - well said. You got the point. You are my idol. And saying that does not make me an idol worshipper.

Let intolerance, bigotry and ignorance die an ignominious death.

[bujhee kom]

Originally Posted by Zunaid
BK bhai - well said. You got the point. You are my idol. And saying that does not make me an idol worshipper.

Let intolerance, bigotry and ignorance die an ignominious death.

Dearest Dr. Z bhai, it is always the other way around....it is me who worships Dr. Z uncle!

[FagunerAgun]

Originally Posted by Zunaid
BK bhai - well said. You got the point. You are my idol. And saying that does not make me an idol worshipper.

Let intolerance, bigotry and ignorance die an ignominious death.

Amen.

[BD-Shardul]

BK bhai: Thanks for clarifying it for Purbasha T bhai. May be he was not familiar with that type of statement.

Although our intention is not shirk when we way "X is God", the opinion of the scholars is that it still better to refrain from such statement. I don't mean any fight here or, uneasiness with such statement and hope you continue to come BC

[WI4EVER]

Imagine Joel Garner http://tinyurl.com/y9r5jnw

and David Williams http://tinyurl.com/yexhwd7

Working together

[IanW]

Clearly, Joel Garner is not God, because by Aristotlean logic we can prove as

www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiAwNvQOvnw

is not

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TV74PsUo1dc

then Joel Garner is not God.

Scholars upset by this are referred to the Tahāfut al-Falāsifa of al-Ghazali.

Now, can we kindly get back to the cricket ?

[WI4EVER]

Not God, but had the best yorker ever IMHO, Younis comes a close second.

[pichchi]

Originally Posted by IanW
Clearly, Joel Garner is not God, because by Aristotlean logic we can prove as

www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiAwNvQOvnw

is not

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TV74PsUo1dc

then Joel Garner is not God.

Scholars upset by this are referred to the Tahāfut al-Falāsifa of al-Ghazali.

Now, can we kindly get back to the cricket ?

I think its universally agreed upon that Hendrix is clearly a God amongst Men!!

Don't know about the Big-bird but Marshall is the true God of pace bowling (may his soul rest in peace)

[bujhee kom]

ooohhh, groove that baby Ian! Thank you dear brother Ian.....Big Jimmie was indeed God's special son! We dig that sh!t from both side of of the Mississippi! Ian, you brought me back to my senses!!! Big Love!!! Machine Gun baby!!!

Peace to all the lost souls in Danang, Hanoi, Mai Lai, Ho Chi Minh, Cambodia!

[BD-Shardul]

At the beginning it was OK, but now haughtiness has prevailed, no matter how people attempt to interpret it. And Allah doesn't like those who are not humble.

[Ashfaq]

I'll never understand why must every discourse take a detour through religion.

Back to cricket, I think BCB hard your plea. HP is back baby.

[Beamer]

Joel " 10 feet" Garner was my favorite fast bowler of that time. I simply loved him, loved his crushing yorkers, the out worldly action when he would start hunched over, one leap, two leap, full sprint ahead with the back gradually getting erect. At the moment of the delivery, he would stand twenty feet tall! What an awesome sight! He was my favorite of that famous quatret. Also, by far, the best Gully fielder I have seen. Nothing escaped that wingspan man..