Verdict on Jamie Siddons

[Miraz]

This will be the 3rd poll on Jamie Siddons.

Let's see what impression Jamie Siddons is leaving on the mind of the Bangladesh fans

Last option should be -

He is un-ambitious and his policy is harmful for a young team. (not time, sorry)

[Tokai]

I am about the stop following these morons. There is a limit to everything and we have crossed that today.

Thanks JS.

[BangladeshFan]

just a difference of 139 runs, we are improving!

slowly but surely he is taking us to the top!

[MohammedC]

Lets say Siddons is sacked tomorrow.

How long will it take to change the teams loosing mentality to winning one?

Who will be our next coach?

[Equinox]

It's amazing how people believe the coach is the obstacle between us winning matches. The real problems lie much deeper...

[MohammedC]

So the coach was doing well up to the begining of 2009 T20 then what happened.

What changes happened after T20 2009 failure?

Did he shujon anything special to the team apart from WI C team success and Zim?

Don't forget we all gave credit to him when our boys were bashing the minnows.

What does he have to say?

[MohammedC]

Originally Posted by MohammedC
So the coach was doing well up to the begining of 2009 T20 then what happened.

What changes happened after T20 2009 failure?

Did he shujon anything special to the team apart from WI C team success and Zim?

Don't forget we all gave credit to him when our boys were bashing the minnows.

What does he have to say?

I had a hunch back in June when Miraz bhai opened this thread that there is a "Shujon Factor". Whether it is good or bad I did not know. After reading todays Inqilab. If the coach and assistant dont co-operate with each other very well then one has to go.

I have 2 immidiate solution before WC2011.

a- Get rid of Siddons or
b- Get rid of Shujon

[M.H.Rubel]

Originally Posted by MohammedC
I had a hunch back in June when Miraz bhai opened this thread that there is a "Shujon Factor". Whether it is good or bad I did not know. After reading todays Inqilab. If the coach and assistant dont co-operate with each other very well then one has to go.

I have 2 immidiate solution before WC2011.

a- Get rid of Siddons or
b- Get rid of Shujon

I am in favour of going with option A.And bring a new coach urgently.

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[BANFAN]

Originally Posted by M.H.Rubel
I am in favour of going with option A.And bring a new coach urgently.

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Mee too. Option two will be fatal. There will be no check on JS crap policies. I don't like to see a repeatation of Rigid Team rules/Multi captain/Changing Natural Abilities/Playing without Team Goals etc etc. If sometimes players are playing for win, I'm sure it's because of Sujon.

Sujon made immediate positive difference by opposing & reducing the ffect of many JS controvertial policies.No ALternatives, it has been proven beyond doubt that JS is harming our cricket by such stupid ideas/experimenting. He must go

[al-Sagar]

Originally Posted by BANFAN
Mee too. Option two will be fatal. There will be no check on JS crap policies. I don't like to see a repeatation of Rigid Team rules/Multi captain/Changing Natural Abilities/Playing without Team Goals etc etc. If sometimes players are playing for win, I'm sure it's because of Sujon.

Sujon made immediate positive difference by opposing & reducing the ffect of many JS controvertial policies.No ALternatives, it has been proven beyond doubt that JS is harming our cricket by such stupid ideas/experimenting. He must go

siddons is buchanan 2.0

jemon guru twmon shissho

[Tiger-ess]

Originally Posted by MohammedC
I had a hunch back in June when Miraz bhai opened this thread that there is a "Shujon Factor". Whether it is good or bad I did not know. After reading todays Inqilab. If the coach and assistant dont co-operate with each other very well then one has to go.

I have 2 immidiate solution before WC2011.

a- Get rid of Siddons or
b- Get rid of Shujon

When I went to see them at the oval:

a- JS walks past me and I say to him"Good luck with the test series Jamie" He replies(with a full grin bottrish ta daat ber kore) "Thank you, Its good to get some pracitce matches eh? before it starts" (still grinning)

b- Shujon wakes past me and before I can even say anything gives me a slightly pervy/"what business do you (a woman) have here?" look. and looks on before he is interrupted by a fellow fan wanting an autograph (I think it was nadim)

so any guesses who my vote goes with


But on a serious note guys, Siddons e media te ki koy ba public ke sorry koy na eishob niye abra eto matha gamay keno. At the end of the day the main people that matter in this situation and in regards to him are the players themselves!

First selectors should look to bloody name a consistent/permanent team for the long term instead of this mix and match nonsesne. Once that is decided I think it should be upto to the squad of players to decide wether they're happy with his efforts as a coach physically, mentally, emotionally.Have an offcial vote within the gang "keep him" & "let him go" not 381 different options. If the majority vote "keep him" then he stays (the definites for this vote are probably Tamim, Imrul, Mushy maybe Bizu)and those who voted no should state reasons so that it can be sorted out. If the majority vote is "let him go" then he goes...simple as!

[lamisa]

Originally Posted by Tiger-ess
When I went to see them at the oval:

a- JS walks past me and I say to him"Good luck with the test series Jamie" He replies(with a full grin bottrish ta daat ber kore) "Thank you, Its good to get some pracitce matches eh? before it starts" (still grinning)

b- Shujon wakes past me and before I can even say anything gives me a slightly pervy/"what business do you (a woman) have here?" look. and looks on before he is interrupted by a fellow fan wanting an autograph (I think it was nadim)

so any guesses who my vote goes with


But on a serious note guys, Siddons e media te ki koy ba public ke sorry koy na eishob niye abra eto matha gamay keno. At the end of the day the main people that matter in this situation and in regards to him are the players themselves!

First selectors should look to bloody name a consistent/permanent team for the long term instead of this mix and match nonsesne. Once that is decided I think it should be upto to the squad of players to decide wether they're happy with his efforts as a coach physically, mentally, emotionally.Have an offcial vote within the gang "keep him" & "let him go" not 381 different options. If the majority vote "keep him" then he stays (the definites for this vote are probably Tamim, Imrul, Mushy maybe Bizu)and those who voted no should state reasons so that it can be sorted out. If the majority vote is "let him go" then he goes...simple as!

hey,imrul said that chacha's been his mentor in the team and all that,didn't mention about JS at all!

[Tokai]

AsifThe.. should go join politics. He can agree with all the opinions there are.

[MohammedC]

I agree with Miraz bhai our national cricket team is going downhill. But I dont agree on blaming everything on Siddons.

Our international cricket will never improve unless we change the infastructure of our domestic cricket.

[Miraz]

Originally Posted by MohammedC
I agree with Miraz bhai our national cricket team is going downhill. But I dont agree on blaming everything on Siddons.

Our international cricket will never improve unless we change the infastructure of our domestic cricket.

I am not blaming Siddons for everything, but he has to take a fare share of blame for the current state of Bangladesh cricket.

[unda_bhai]

Originally Posted by Miraz
I am not blaming Siddons for everything, but he has to take a fare share of blame for the current state of Bangladesh cricket.

i missed the part of ur other posts where u apparently said explicitly other were also to blame.

lets just sak coaches as they come, cos obviously our players are perfect in term of mindeset and maturity. so it must be coahces fault why they throw away wikets n bowl full tosses.

[BANFAN]

Originally Posted by unda_bhai
i missed the part of ur other posts where u apparently said explicitly other were also to blame.

lets just sak coaches as they come, cos obviously our players are perfect in term of mindeset and maturity. so it must be coahces fault why they throw away wikets n bowl full tosses.

We have BD borders to pick players from not the coach. It's a open world to pick a coach from. If both are rotten equally, still you have to live with the rotten players and look for a fresh coach to fix the players.

You are using a bad example to blame the player. off course to some extent the coach is to be blamed for players inability to play a shot. But there are much bigger things that the coach is failing to do. You don't win a match by just playing a full toss well, either.

We take coaches to fix players, if someone cannot, he should be changed and we should look for another, who can. We don't take players to fix a coach. Like for argument some people will say, our players are not capable of following the coach; for them I must ask, then why do we need a coach? Let there be self development methods run under local guys, why pay a coach for even stopping self development?

[unda_bhai]

Originally Posted by BANFAN
We have BD borders to pick players from not the coach. It's a open world to pick a coach from. If both are rotten equally, still you have to live with the rotten players and look for a fresh coach to fix the players.

You are using a bad example to blame the player. off course to some extent the coach is to be blamed for players inability to play a shot. But there are much bigger things that the coach is failing to do. You don't win a match by just playing a full toss well, either.

We take coaches to fix players, if someone cannot, he should be changed and we should look for another, who can. We don't take players to fix a coach. Like for argument some people will say, our players are not capable of following the coach; for them I must ask, then why do we need a coach? Let there be self development methods run under local guys, why pay a coach for even stopping self development?

hes failing to do wat else? the guy has worked thru cancer to improve our stupid bunch of retards, n he hasnt tried enuf?

u want bangla players to start self devlopment? they dont have the minutest knowledge about world cricket, how wud they even know where to begin? we'd be going bak to the pioneering days if we dnt have a coach. wer not like india where we're advanced enuf to go witout a coach.

the knowledge of local guys isnt enuf to compete at world clevel, they are not experienced to teach anything. we need outside knowledge. we need to giv the outside world the best chance of helping us. but thnx to bcb, their reluctance to hire a a decent bowling coach, or listen to suggestions for domestic league hasnt done any favours. good on them for sending players to australia, but why stop it there? keep doing it. why is the national team only practising full time? if our players arent capable of following, then just shows the calibre of our talent dosnt it? its not great is it?

freaking hell, the problem isnt wit the coach dont u guys see, its with US!

[bdtiger]

It was necessary. Now Shakib will stop saying that they are improving and show lame excuses. Hopefully Bangladesh cricket will come down to earth now. They are taking all the facilities and outcome is shame and humiliation for the country. It's better to have no cricket team than such a pathetic one. Blame goes to everyone from players to BCB officials.

[Dilscoop]

He is doing a poor job. His approach is flawed and he is failing to inspire the team.
He is clueless as a head coach.
He is un-ambitious and his policy is harmful for a young team.

Voted!

[Miraz]

Asif and magic boy, that was silly.

[Miraz]

Pro-Siddons apologists (copyright thebest) are out there to spoil the poll by spoiling the multiple option.

The love seems to be very deep, deeper than love for Bangladesh cricket.

[meazz1]

You can't blame him for these morons' stupidity. These fools comes to play cricket and throw their wkts with shots that does not call for.
Thes guys play ODI like a test and test like an ODI.

If the coach has to tell them in the morning that today we are playing a 50 over match so pace yourself for an ODI match today, than yes, the coach is to blame.

These fools are probably ok for our BD standard but no match for other cricket playing countries.

[hbk619]

Originally Posted by meazz1
You can't blame him for these morons' stupidity. These fools comes to play cricket and throw their wkts with shots that does not call for.
Thes guys play ODI like a test and test like an ODI.

If the coach has to tell them in the morning that today we are playing a 50 over match so pace yourself for an ODI match today, than yes, the coach is to blame.

These fools are probably ok for our BD standard but no match for other cricket playing countries.

a coach needs to motivate the cricket team. if he doesn't motivate and says go to the field and go for your individual performance, then why he is the head coach?

we are debating about this issue for a long time. a teacher is the best teacher when his students who used to do very bad result in school got the highest mark. In that case, Siddons took over 3 years. still he got no gameplans..no motivations for players...3 yrs wasted completely except individual performance/shommanjonok porajoy

[Dhruvo]

Siddons is not head coach material. He's recently been too pessimistic and seems to have lost faith in our players. I'm surprised to see that BCB hasn't sacked him yet. I think BCB should sack him for good and bring in a head coach from an Australian or English county team, I'm pretty sure they would accept it if we offer them 20k a month.