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January 25, 2010, 01:48 AM
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For me rakibul still has not played a real long innings which is expected from him. Like an innings mushy or riyadh played
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January 25, 2010, 01:49 AM
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drop thid bloody loser.
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January 25, 2010, 02:34 AM
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How is the guy an idiot? Again the guy never throws his wicket away and is a great fielder who never misses catches..an idiot would be a guy who plays carelessly and cant really field(SN)..
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Yes, a great fielder who dropped Tendulkar twice.
Can't bat, can't bowl, can't field. The epitome of uselessness.
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January 25, 2010, 02:43 AM
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can anybody please remove roqibul from the team . basically we just lost the 2nd test because of roqibul by drooping the tendulkar . and also we dont need no imrul kayes and shafiul islam. we need aftab and alok this will definitely help a little
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January 25, 2010, 03:23 AM
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can anybody please remove roqibul from the team . basically we just lost the 2nd test because of roqibul by drooping the tendulkar . and also we dont need no imrul kayes and shafiul islam. we need aftab and alok this will definitely help a little
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I agree with dropping Raqibul and Imrul, but why Shafiul? He was the only other person besides Shahadat to get a wicket today and he bowled very well last test.
Now I'm clueless as to how bringing Aftab and Alok back will help the team in anyway.
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January 25, 2010, 03:44 AM
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I believe Rock is not as bovine as Ash. Wonder what Siddons is doing to rectify his mistakes.
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January 25, 2010, 05:27 AM
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I agree with dropping Raqibul and Imrul, but why Shafiul? He was the only other person besides Shahadat to get a wicket today and he bowled very well last test.
Now I'm clueless as to how bringing Aftab and Alok back will help the team in anyway.
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alok as a possible for his leggies but would be better to try shuvo or saqlain sajib first i'd think. the problem with dropping imrul is that there is no one to replace him unless you go back to JO, junaid, SN, NI, nazimuddin etc or try someone new like nazmus sadat or rony talukder. raqibul's spot is a tough one, we need someone at #3 and unless we bring in someone completely new who hasn't done anything domestically or an ex-national teamer who also hasn't performed (alok, aftab) or keep SN then the #3 spot goes to ash or raqibul. that's assuming management and coach and captain actually fix the batting line-up, move riyad and mushy up the order, bring naeem into the order as a middle order bat and move shakib down the order.
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January 25, 2010, 10:05 AM
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alok as a possible for his leggies but would be better to try shuvo or saqlain sajib first i'd think. the problem with dropping imrul is that there is no one to replace him unless you go back to JO, junaid, SN, NI, nazimuddin etc or try someone new like nazmus sadat or rony talukder. raqibul's spot is a tough one, we need someone at #3 and unless we bring in someone completely new who hasn't done anything domestically or an ex-national teamer who also hasn't performed (alok, aftab) or keep SN then the #3 spot goes to ash or raqibul. that's assuming management and coach and captain actually fix the batting line-up, move riyad and mushy up the order, bring naeem into the order as a middle order bat and move shakib down the order.
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Well to be honest, if it were a toss up between Aftab and Alok for a place in any of the sides, it'd be Aftab, though he has performed better in the ODI competition. I doubt his capabilities over Alok in tests, simply due to his lack of concentration. I'm all for trying Shuvo (the spinner) over both Alok or Aftab as well, however, I am enjoying this 3 pacers attack. We definitely need a number 3 batsman specialised for that position - Rakibul has shown no signs that he's the man for the job. I'm not sure if Riyad is the man for the job, and if we're speaking strictly test matches, then Mushy (whom I feel is an ideal number 3 batsman) will have too much responsibility to bear due to his keeping duties. I like the idea of Shakib moving down the order and Naeem playing at 5. I think he'd be a very good innings-builder compared to the likes of Ash. Mushy and Riyad's positions definitely need to be reconsidered.
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January 25, 2010, 02:21 PM
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Oh come on ppl...unexpected really
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Well to be honest, if it were a toss up between Aftab and Alok for a place in any of the sides, it'd be Aftab, though he has performed better in the ODI competition. I doubt his capabilities over Alok in tests, simply due to his lack of concentration. I'm all for trying Shuvo (the spinner) over both Alok or Aftab as well, however, I am enjoying this 3 pacers attack. We definitely need a number 3 batsman specialised for that position - Rakibul has shown no signs that he's the man for the job. I'm not sure if Riyad is the man for the job, and if we're speaking strictly test matches, then Mushy (whom I feel is an ideal number 3 batsman) will have too much responsibility to bear due to his keeping duties. I like the idea of Shakib moving down the order and Naeem playing at 5. I think he'd be a very good innings-builder compared to the likes of Ash. Mushy and Riyad's positions definitely need to be reconsidered.
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well i guess you could open with tamim and imrul, have mushy at #3, riyad at #4, naeem at #5, shakib at #6, a specialist keeper at #7, shuvo at #8 and then your 3 pacers for slots 9,10 and 11. but i lean towards the idea of mushy at 5/6 and keeping the gloves with shakib at 7 and shuvo at 8, only thing is we don't have a good #3 to do this. but i'm not sure whether mushy should be at 3, i've never really been a fan of batting him in the top 3 but it's not like we have many good #3's running around the country.
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January 25, 2010, 07:32 PM
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‘মন খারাপ...?’ প্রশ্নটা শুনে ডাইনিং রুমের দিকে যেতে থাকা রকিবুল হাসান হাসেন। হাসিতে পাল্টা প্রশ্ন, ‘মন খারাপ হবে কেন?’
এবার প্রতিবেদকের পাল্টা মন খারাপ হওয়ার পালা। শচীন টেন্ডুলকারের দু-দুটি ক্যাচ যাঁর হাত থেকে পড়েছে, সেই রকিবুল দিন শেষে ওভাবে হাসতে পারেন! টেন্ডুলকার শেষ পর্যন্ত করেছেন ১৪৩ রান, ভারতের স্কোর দিন শেষে ৪৫৯/৫। ভাবুন একবার, গালিতে দাঁড়ানো রকিবুল যদি শাহাদাত হোসেন ও রুবেল হোসেনের বলে ২৭ ও ৫৩ রানে টেন্ডুলকারের ক্যাচ দুটি নিতে পারতেন, দিন শেষে কী দাঁড়াত ভারতের স্কোরবোর্ডের চেহারা? রকিবুল তারপরও বলেন, ‘মন খারাপ হবে কেন?’
কোচ জেমি সিডন্সের দৃষ্টিতে বাংলাদেশ দলের অন্যতম সেরা ফিল্ডার রকিবুলের মন খারাপ না-ই হতে পারে। ক্যাচ তো এক দিনই আসবে না, প্রতিদিন আসবে। এক দিন যদি দুটো ক্যাচ পড়েই এমন কী ক্ষতি! রকিবুলের ব্যাখ্যা অবশ্য এটা নয়। ক্যাচ মিসের ব্যাপারটাকে ‘পার্ট অব গেম’ হিসেবেই নিয়েছেন তিনি, ‘তাত্ক্ষণিকভাবে মনে হয়েছিল দারুণ একটা সুযোগ হাতছাড়া হয়ে গেছে। পরে অবশ্য ঠিক হয়ে গেছে। খেলায় ও রকম হতেই পারে।’ রকিবুল মনে করেন, দুটি নয় কাল একটি ক্যাচই ছেড়েছেন তিনি, ‘পরেরটা তো ক্যাচ ছিল না! অনেক কঠিন ছিল ওটা। তবে প্রথমটা ধরা উচিত ছিল।’
যতই বলুন ‘মন খারাপ হবে কেন’, শেষ কথাটা কিন্তু মুখে অন্ধকার নামিয়েই বলেছেন রকিবুল।
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January 25, 2010, 07:49 PM
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well i guess you could open with tamim and imrul, have mushy at #3, riyad at #4, naeem at #5, shakib at #6, a specialist keeper at #7, shuvo at #8 and then your 3 pacers for slots 9,10 and 11. but i lean towards the idea of mushy at 5/6 and keeping the gloves with shakib at 7 and shuvo at 8, only thing is we don't have a good #3 to do this. but i'm not sure whether mushy should be at 3, i've never really been a fan of batting him in the top 3 but it's not like we have many good #3's running around the country.
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I definitely don't want a specialist keeper in the team. Hence, I'd have to agree with you on keeping Mushy at number 5/6 for the test matches. But I'm not too sure about putting Shakib in at number 7 - he probably should ideally play where he is now at 5, or perhaps even 6 (Mushy's suggested spots), but 7 might be going slightly far.
We need either Mahmudullah or Naeem to be able to play the new ball well, so they can be moved up the order, potentially to number 3. This is of course, if we want to avoid trying out any new batsmen, because we all know how Junaid (in his current form) and Nafees handle the new ball. You could have the order this way:
Tamim
Imrul (once a better opener comes around this guy may need to go)
Mahmudullah (i mention "potentially", he still hasn't been tried with the new ball)
Ash
Naeem
Shakib
Mushy (this is the only spot i can find for him, unless Shakib does play 7)
Shuvo
Shahadat
Shafiul
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I definitely don't want a specialist keeper in the team. Hence, I'd have to agree with you on keeping Mushy at number 5/6 for the test matches. But I'm not too sure about putting Shakib in at number 7 - he probably should ideally play where he is now at 5, or perhaps even 6 (Mushy's suggested spots), but 7 might be going slightly far.
We need either Mahmudullah or Naeem to be able to play the new ball well, so they can be moved up the order, potentially to number 3. This is of course, if we want to avoid trying out any new batsmen, because we all know how Junaid (in his current form) and Nafees handle the new ball. You could have the order this way:
Tamim
Imrul (once a better opener comes around this guy may need to go)
Mahmudullah (i mention "potentially", he still hasn't been tried with the new ball)
Ash
Naeem
Shakib
Mushy (this is the only spot i can find for him, unless Shakib does play 7)
Shuvo
Shahadat
Shafiul
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the reason for shakib to play at 7 is to take pressure off him, i think eventually he'll turnout a pretty decent middle order test batsman but atm he's not quite there. if riyad and mushy move up the order then the lower order such as the #7 batsman should have less pressure because the team shouldn't be in as much trouble as it is nowadays.
also i'm not happy with ash being in the test team nowadays, the way i see it he'll perform as inconsistently no matter where he bats so if you have him in the team you may as well just use him to plug a hole which at this point is the #2/#3 spots but you would probably keep imrul as the 2nd opener for now and bat ash at 3. raqibul is another option for #3 but i don't think he'll be successful there (but then who will be?). imrul and junaid may eventually end up the #2 and #3 but they're not really ready at this point, rony talukder is also a possible for the 2nd opener spot eventually.
obviously it would be good if naeem or riyad could bat at 3 but i want to try them in the middle order first.
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January 25, 2010, 09:26 PM
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people...why did we drop Mehrab jr, Rajin or Javed Omar (these players are slow and can't play against big teams....how about Rakibul?
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January 25, 2010, 11:21 PM
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Are you sure Roqibul will be dropped? He is JS and the chief selector's most favorite pet. As overrarted Roqibul is for his so called technique, I am afraid the team is overlooking some other talent and also team combination.
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January 25, 2010, 11:32 PM
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Trust me roqibul and imrul this to both cock soccer will never play good innings for Bangladesh or maybe they will play one good innings after 10 match . But I don't think we need this kind of player anymore . Aftab and alok shows in the past what they are capable of. Tamim and junaeed should open always. Junaeed he is just not confident yet . But he is good player.
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January 25, 2010, 11:52 PM
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Guys, Roqibul was so unproduvtive in the recently concluded DPL, that he was about to be dropped by his team KALABAGAN from the first 11. Now if a DPL team hesitates to include a player in the playing 11, how do the national team is not even worried about him. I could not believe that this guy did not even feel bad after dropping ST actually he was proud to say that " Why should I feel bad?" replying a to t question, " If he felt bad about dropping ST".
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January 26, 2010, 03:31 AM
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the reason for shakib to play at 7 is to take pressure off him, i think eventually he'll turnout a pretty decent middle order test batsman but atm he's not quite there. if riyad and mushy move up the order then the lower order such as the #7 batsman should have less pressure because the team shouldn't be in as much trouble as it is nowadays.
also i'm not happy with ash being in the test team nowadays, the way i see it he'll perform as inconsistently no matter where he bats so if you have him in the team you may as well just use him to plug a hole which at this point is the #2/#3 spots but you would probably keep imrul as the 2nd opener for now and bat ash at 3. raqibul is another option for #3 but i don't think he'll be successful there (but then who will be?). imrul and junaid may eventually end up the #2 and #3 but they're not really ready at this point, rony talukder is also a possible for the 2nd opener spot eventually.
obviously it would be good if naeem or riyad could bat at 3 but i want to try them in the middle order first.
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Well it's obvious the main concern is the number 3 spot. The problem is, I don't see anyone in the domestic playing well at the number 3 spot (besides Nafees in the DPL). I would think that Junaid isn't bad option there for tests until we get someone better, as he isn't as bad as Nafees at playing the swinging ball. But I'd be desperate to try out Mahmudullah or Naeem at that number 3 spot after they get a few innings' under their belt in the middle order.
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January 27, 2010, 12:25 AM
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he knew where his off stump was and he let the ball hit the stump
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It's not about batting "slowly" or "fast". Not about strokeLESS or strokeFULLness, but about the basic ability to sight quality deliveries early, finding gaps, rotating the strike with ease and putting the bad ones away. That's basic batting in International cricket for any batsman at this level and DA ROK, and every other guy like him, is NO international batsman. Wake up, tone down the weird arrogance and learn a little about the game, trust your eyes and see the truth.
Zaheer bowled inspired spells, but one doesn't need to in order to get the likes of DA ROK out, as PROVED by his dismissal today. Anyone who tries to justify his selection at this level is only flaunting his/her own issues and subsequent qualification as a traditional selector, organizer and BCB boss of the horrifying future.
About Motin: BENCH HIS @$$ NOW or try him at number 7 or 8 for 30-odd runs max for all forms of the sport.
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The guy gotta go to join SN in Barisal team.
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keep him in one-dayers until someone better comes along (maybe riyad, naeem and mushy are possibles as well), in tests he should probably go so they can bring naeem into the team.
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Nah, He is so hopeless now a days. He needs to play NCL and should get his form back. He just keep playing because he is JS's fav student.
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rok is bal type of player. Have no clue against some quality bowling. Good for nothing
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