The Ziaur Rahman Thread - Page 8

MyRoom · #**176** December 4, 2012, 10:55 AM

I hope Bangladesh win the toss for once in this series so we can bowl first. As long as the score to chase is below 270 then we should be able to manage it. But if we bat first then we have to rack up a score well over 300, something we hardly ever manage to do.

dash · #**177** December 4, 2012, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by MyRoom
I hope Bangladesh win the toss for once in this series so we can bowl first. As long as the score to chase is below 270 then we should be able to manage it. But if we bat first then we have to rack up a score well over 300, something we hardly ever manage to do.

havent you watched the first game?

BANFAN · #**178** December 10, 2012, 08:24 AM

Had been crying for him in ODIs....people complained of his bowling...we're just wrong in their assumptions... He shows good control and variation...and his batting could have been useful down the order. Instead we wasted Riyad at 7 and a walking wicket of Naeem at the top....

Jadukor · #**179** December 10, 2012, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Gowza
looking at his t20 stats says he's not and looking at his list A stats says he's a decent/average bowler.

but where his batting is atm he needs to bat at #8 or lower imo and to be batting that low means you need to be more utilised as a bowler otherwise you're giving up a bowling spot for someone who slogs and doesn't really bowl.

I think Zia proved his case today

shakibrulz · #**180** December 10, 2012, 10:02 AM

Bowled well it seems then? If he can bowl,then probably he should play in ODIs too IMO.

BANFAN · #**181** December 10, 2012, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Jadukor
Just because Mushfiq hasn't used Zia doesn't make him a bad bowler! The guy took 144 wkts from 55 FC games at an average of 25 with 5 five wkt hauls. In comparison Mahmudullah averages 33 per wkt on pitches that suit him more than Zia
What i am saying is that until we see him bowl consistently we won't know if he is useful or not. We already have a spin bowling all rounder in Shakib and to an extent Naeem, Nasir so what we are missing is a pace bowling all rounder. Even though Zia will clearly not be the next Kallis... if developed he could do the job Klusner, Darren Sammy, Tom Moody did/does for other teams

you are spot on here....would love to see him in the ODIs....

Habib · #**182** December 10, 2012, 10:37 AM

Left unused I guess.

deshimon · #**183** December 10, 2012, 10:41 AM

Now IMO number #7 place should be given to him and Ryad, today showed he can bat at number #3. Zia showed his ability to bowl in shorter version and he can bat as well.

Sohel · #**184** December 10, 2012, 10:42 AM

Good and effective military mediums today

Tigers_eye · #**185** December 10, 2012, 11:20 AM

aj kay Zia ja batting korsey na....

MyRoom · #**186** December 10, 2012, 11:23 AM

Zia is definitely part of our ODI plans so we can use him as our third seamer if we have to.

Fazal · #**187** December 10, 2012, 03:40 PM

Bolsilam na ... !!!!!

yes Zia's bowlinge speed nai, kintu he can be effective in ODI in certain wickets. However batting is where he will make the difference...you need a punch @ #7 and Zia can prvide that.

If I am the selector I would somehow give Zia few tries... he has the potential to win some games for you.

mali007 · #**188** December 10, 2012, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BANFAN
Had been crying for him in ODIs....people complained of his bowling...we're just wrong in their assumptions... He shows good control and variation...and his batting could have been useful down the order. Instead we wasted Riyad at 7 and a walking wicket of Naeem at the top....

Exactly , I was also literally begging for him in ODIs !! He is the only Macho man other than Tamim who can rock the stand with sixes.

MyRoom · #**189** December 10, 2012, 05:11 PM

This is our ideal ODI line-up:

01.Tamim
02.Anamul
03.Shakib
04.Mahmudullah
05.Nasir
06.Rahim
07.Rahman/Mominul
08.Gazi
09.Mortaza/Abul
10.Razzak
11.Nazmul/Shafiul/Rubel

Gowza · #**190** December 10, 2012, 06:36 PM

i still maintain if he isn't utilised much as a bowler we are better off picking a more specialist batsman than ziaur. didn't see the match but must have bowled well to get his figures, but until this match he was pretty much used as a specialist batsman and i still don't think he's good enough to get that qualification.

if he's used as an allrounder then there is a case to have him in the team.

MohammedC · #**191** December 10, 2012, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Gowza
i still maintain if he isn't utilised much as a bowler we are better off picking a more specialist batsman than ziaur. didn't see the match but must have bowled well to get his figures, but until this match he was pretty much used as a specialist batsman and i still don't think he's good enough to get that qualification.

if he's used as an allrounder then there is a case to have him in the team.

Mushy dropped Marlon twice of Zia's bowling.

Gowza · #**192** December 10, 2012, 07:00 PM

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Mushy dropped Marlon twice of Zia's bowling.

i'm not saying he's a bad bowler, i'm saying if they're never going to bowl him or rarely bowl him we would get more value out of his spot if it was given to a specialist batsman who can bowl a bit.

Maple1900 · #**193** December 10, 2012, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Fazal
Bolsilam na ... !!!!!

yes Zia's bowlinge speed nai, kintu he can be effective in ODI in certain wickets. However batting is where he will make the difference...you need a punch @ #7 and Zia can prvide that.

If I am the selector I would somehow give Zia few tries... he has the potential to win some games for you.

ki bolen speed nai, he can bowl in decent pace(80m),

tanvir_nus · #**194** December 10, 2012, 08:01 PM

Always knew he had it in him. He needs to bowl a lot more and try to increase his pace a bit. He can seriously become one of the better seaming all rounders our team needs so badly in the subcontinent.

Dilscoop · #**195** December 10, 2012, 08:11 PM

Did he actually bowl well or was he a Gayle?

Ajfar · #**196** December 10, 2012, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dilscoop
Did he actually bowl well or was he a Gayle?

I didn't see the game, but I followed cricinfo commentary. And from what I can tell he did a pretty good job. He was bowling against Samuels/bravo, so I'm sure if he was delivering balls that were asking to be hit samuels/bravo would have taken care of it. Stupid Mushy dropped Samuels twice off of Zia's bowling. If we got rid of Samuels it could have been a completely different story.

BANFAN · #**197** December 11, 2012, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Dilscoop
Did he actually bowl well or was he a Gayle?

He bowled intelligently and also managed to move the ball off the pitch. Mushy missed two edges. ... I think he was pretty good.

mali007 · #**198** December 11, 2012, 01:40 AM

He bowled Pollard with a magnificient delivery !! He was bowling like a very matured bowler , how come the current coach being a bowling coach could not figure out his talent !!!

shakibrulz · #**199** December 11, 2012, 01:46 AM

Well shouldn't have done badly going by cricinfo commentary. Anyways does seem like a great lower order bat if you can sneak him in when Shak is back:
Tamim
Anamul
Mahmudullah
Shakib
Mushy
Nasir
Zia
Gazi
Mashrafe/Shafiul
Razzak

Amazing batting depth.

Rifat · #**200** December 11, 2012, 02:12 AM

Go G.I.JOE go.

G.I.Joe it is.