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February 9, 2013, 09:29 PM
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“We have three applicants including Shane Jurgensen. After evaluating everything the cricket operations committee considered Jurgensen the best choice for the job and now his appointment is subject to approval of the board,” said BCB's media committee chairman Jalal Yunus after the meeting.
“Stuart Karpinnen, our academy trainer, will be our trainer for the Sri Lanka tour and we have two candidates for two specialist positions -- a batting coach from England and a fielding coach from Australia. We will negotiate with them, and possibly try to bring them on board before the Sri Lanka series. If we don't get the specialist positions from our list, we will take local coaches to Sri Lanka. We wanted a local assistant coach, a position in which four former national players have shown interest. We will advertise for the position so that others can apply,” said Yunus, adding that former short-term spin-bowling coach Saqlain Mushtaq wants coach the Tigers for 100 days in a calendar year but they (the BCB) haven't decided how to allot those 100 days.
http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesig...php?nid=268504
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February 9, 2013, 09:34 PM
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I am pleased for SJ. He was thrown into the role with no time to input, so deserves a chance to at least have a go at it. As he knows the players, it was the most sensible and less disruptive decision since he is not a hard taskmaster and the players will like that.
I am also sure the BCB had little choice so it is a blessing he was willing to commit.
I wish him all the very best. The road ahead will be bumpy but he can at least get a temporary uplift from the BPL2, which will give the team the best chance it has ever had in getting some good results.
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February 10, 2013, 12:31 AM
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যাউক একখান ভালা কাজ হইছে.....
প্রধান প্রশিক্ষক খোজার নামে খামাখা আমগো টেকার নয়-ছয় কিছু-টা কমলো ।
এখন স্টিভ ওয়া বা রিকি পন্টিং বা ভিভ রিচার্ড কে সাকলাইনের মতোই একটা ১০০ দিনের চুক্তিতে নিয়া আসলে পারে
আমগো ব্যটারগো কিছুটা উপকার হইতো
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February 10, 2013, 02:34 AM
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Congrats. But for one year? What is this ... a probation period?
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February 10, 2013, 04:27 AM
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Quote:
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Congrats. But for one year? What is this ... a probation period?
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I think the Zim tour is going to be the probation.
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February 10, 2013, 06:20 AM
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Very tactical move. This will save BCB a lot of money. Now, lets just hope he keeps his winning ways going in the upcoming series as well. Otherwise, the decision may backfire.
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February 10, 2013, 01:15 PM
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Our pace bowling department is not in good shape under Shane. A person who can not shape his own department,how can control all the things?I am in fear about his future as head coach.
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February 10, 2013, 10:10 PM
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Agree about not getting the best out of the bowlers Rubel, but he got the team to perform. A specialist batting coach, fielding coach will perhaps allow him to focus a lot more on the bowling aspect. Whether he can make a difference time will tell.
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February 10, 2013, 10:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Murad
“We have three applicants including Shane Jurgensen. After evaluating everything the cricket operations committee considered Jurgensen the best choice for the job and now his appointment is subject to approval of the board,” said BCB's media committee chairman Jalal Yunus after the meeting.
“Stuart Karpinnen, our academy trainer, will be our trainer for the Sri Lanka tour and we have two candidates for two specialist positions -- a batting coach from England and a fielding coach from Australia. We will negotiate with them, and possibly try to bring them on board before the Sri Lanka series. If we don't get the specialist positions from our list, we will take local coaches to Sri Lanka. We wanted a local assistant coach, a position in which four former national players have shown interest. We will advertise for the position so that others can apply,” said Yunus, adding that former short-term spin-bowling coach Saqlain Mushtaq wants coach the Tigers for 100 days in a calendar year but they (the BCB) haven't decided how to allot those 100 days.
http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesig...php?nid=268504
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Why aren't they hiring Siddons as the batting coach.....what will it take for BCB to hire folks, the likes of Siddons-Pont?
Is Saqlain asking for too much money that BCB can only afford to keep him for 100 days? It seems every coach that has been effective are not utilized properly or would not stay. Our cricket seems to be caught in this vicious web and suffering from any real improvement that can ne quantifiable.
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February 10, 2013, 10:50 PM
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^With Saqi, the issue prolly not money, but that he does not want to spend more than 100 days away from his family. He prolly has consultancy jobs in UK too, for which he needs time (just my guess)
The issue with Siddons, some BCB official thinks, his presence will bring back the old divides among players (not my guess, what I read from Prothom Alo).
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February 10, 2013, 10:53 PM
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@Betaar bhai
Saqlain is not asking for too much money. He wants to work for 100 days only. Probably wants to give more time to his family. BCB ekhon bhabtese kibhabe oi 100 days kaje lagano jai. I think they should ask him to come 2 weeks before every tour. That's more than enough. We don't have that many tours anyway.
Siddons aage HC chilo ekhon batting coach. Onek genjam lege jabe. Ar tachara onek koste team ta united hoise. Siddons ashle hoito abar divided hoye jabe.
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February 10, 2013, 11:01 PM
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My guess is that Saqi is very much involved with Tabligh Jamat, which also requires fair amount of time each year.
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February 10, 2013, 11:05 PM
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We need to stop obsessing over big names like Pybass and actually find someone who is comitted to our cricket and won't run like a sissy at the first sign of trouble. SJ gets my vote
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February 10, 2013, 11:25 PM
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Quote:
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My guess is that Saqi is very much involved with Tabligh Jamat, which also requires fair amount of time each year.
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Yeah eta o hote pare.
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February 11, 2013, 12:06 AM
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Smart move to secure SJ. We need stability more than anything else right now. We have to accept that big name coaches do not want to settle in BD for long term. I am more optimistic about getting skilled people for short term stints which might be a lot more attractive to people. Now that the basic coaching needs are covered by SJ, we can look for people we can bring in as bowling and batting consultants
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February 11, 2013, 12:16 AM
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My guess is that Saqi is very much involved with Tabligh Jamat, which also requires fair amount of time each year.
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It's not that big of a deal as we usually have at least 40 days cricketing gap between series + Training anyways...if he so chooses he can stay in Bangladesh and still fulfill all his obligations. We can afford to listen to all his demands as I personally would think losing him would be a big loss for our Cricket in the long run.
agree with Murad bhai's idea that Saqlain can basically take a hands off approach and come and do his work two/three weeks before each tour.
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February 11, 2013, 12:24 AM
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It's not that big of a deal as we usually have at least 40 days cricketing gap between series + Training anyways...if he so chooses he can stay in Bangladesh and still fulfill all his obligations.
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A high profile sports personality like him should be a big tool in hands of Tabligh (if he is still involved). They prolly send him around the world through out the year.
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February 11, 2013, 12:09 PM
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Quote:
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@Betaar bhai
Saqlain is not asking for too much money. He wants to work for 100 days only. Probably wants to give more time to his family. BCB ekhon bhabtese kibhabe oi 100 days kaje lagano jai. I think they should ask him to come 2 weeks before every tour. That's more than enough. We don't have that many tours anyway.
Siddons aage HC chilo ekhon batting coach. Onek genjam lege jabe. Ar tachara onek koste team ta united hoise. Siddons ashle hoito abar divided hoye jabe.
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Well I get that about Saqlain. But I think everyone has a price and if I know that someone can make positive strides for our cricket I would definitely offer him that price. It's a WIN-WIN situation unless Saqlain is dead against it.
And about Siddons; I don't think that he will divide the team or would be able to since he's not the head coach. As a consultant his focus would be to work with the folks that lack batting technique rather than selecting the team and become biased in the process as some of us claim he is.
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February 12, 2013, 09:32 PM
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The best possible move based on current situation.
This will give Sj a fair amount to time to make a case, on the other hand new BCB Chairman will have more time to select the right coach instead of rushing and making another wrong move.
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March 10, 2013, 10:51 AM
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Is it pure luck or is it JS has something to do with this team's recent positive performance.
Against WI in TEST , even we lost, I saw some positives considering there was large gap before we played those two TEST. Then we followed up with ODI series win, even when our best player was not there.
Now against SL, we don't have Sakib, SN, Naeem for the whole series, Tamim didn't played, but still so far a good test for us. It looks like we are playing like a team regardless who is playing and who is not.
I have a feeling JS has something do to with it.
I understand the FB is not what we expected, but that's due to injury of some key Fbs then anything else.
The only concern is the fielding. But that may be due to uncertainty and bringing in new fielding coach in the team with few new players in the team with not enough time to work with.
I am hoping that will be addressed with-in next few months. What we need is stability in the coaching stuff and let them work with the team for 6 months.
But I am kind of start liking JS as a head coach.
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March 10, 2013, 12:49 PM
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Some Credit has to be given to him. He's obviously doing something right for our boys to perform well on a consistent basis. Maybe the pace results have been disappointing but then again it's not all his fault. Can't really expect anyone to turn Shahadat around. Then Rubel and Shafiul came from big injuries so they're struggling for rhythm and then Abul is still very raw. To me, there's little he can do.
I'll blame this pace problem more with BCB. They stopped the pacer hunt program and to my knowledge they have no plans to build a pace academy. We can't expect SJ to miraculously turn these pacers around. There has to be sufficient support before the national team in order to have more quality and ready pacers. Look how much SL and Indian pacers are struggling despite them getting far more support than ours.
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March 10, 2013, 11:20 PM
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Well whatever he is doing its working. The team seems to be in good spirits, very motivated, very confident. Bowling and fielding will need a lot of work, but with the bat huge improvement.
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March 11, 2013, 04:06 AM
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While I am sure Shane deserves some credit, I think its a combination of several things that helped with the current good form:
- The immediate two coaches before him had short stints, and according to news report had good effect on the players.
- The team is not just performing good recently. I think the team has been performing really good in patches for the last 2-3 years.
- The current generation of main players, though young, has been playing together for quite some time.
- They are playing a lot more games, esp in the domestic level.
- The current group of young players, have grown up seeing bangladesh as a test playing side and good performance (however patchy). The previous generation, was still coming in terms with playing against their icons and star players.
I think the combination of all these things helped a lot.
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March 11, 2013, 04:10 AM
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The BPL uplift has a great effect, as with the Asia Cup last year.
Let's make the most of it!!
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March 11, 2013, 04:35 AM
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BPL seems have given the players quite a boost confidence wise.
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