The Savar Building Collapse Tragedy

[Hasan2k8]

Western people should boycott buying clothes labelled 'made in Bangladesh' as a mark of respect and concern for the under payed, poorly treated workers in the garment factories industry in BD.

[Nasif]

Originally Posted by Hasan2k8
Western people should boycott buying clothes labelled 'made in Bangladesh' as a mark of respect and concern for the under payed, poorly treated workers in the garment factories industry in BD.

That's the worst thing you can do. Not buying will leave lot of poor workers without jobs.

[Rubu]

Originally Posted by Hasan2k8
Western people should boycott buying clothes labelled 'made in Bangladesh' as a mark of respect and concern for the under payed, poorly treated workers in the garment factories industry in BD.

Absolutely NOT. That will destroy the jobs in Bangladesh and break the backbone of the country.

The best they can do, is to convey the message that they are will to pay couple dollars extra for a shirt on the condition that they will pass on the profit to enforce better working conditions in Bangladesh.

They have to say, you have to meet this this and this standard, or we'll cancel any contact. If that means paying a few more dollars, lets be it. Consumers in developed countries will have to carry the cost, but the feeling I get talking to people that, they generally don't mind paying a bit extra for humane working conditions of the workers.

[Blah]

Originally Posted by Hasan2k8
Western people should boycott buying clothes labelled 'made in Bangladesh' as a mark of respect and concern for the under payed, poorly treated workers in the garment factories industry in BD.

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.

Not only the savar incident has nothing to do with "under-payed", "poorly treated" workers. It was a single incident of a moron building owner, and moronic garments owner who lied to the workers about the safety of the building. They didn't actually check with engineers to see if it was ok. They just didn't bother. Don't forget that the owner of the buiding "Rana" himself was in a meeting with his closest aides inside the building, when it collapsed. So I don't think they were intentionally trying to harm workers or trying to avoid safety issues. The were just too dumb to know better.

I don't know how much you know about the garments industry in BD and its role in elevating the living standard and giving job opportunities to the poor. I see that you are living in UK, so it might be convenient for you to sit on your high horse and be all judgmental. But if tomorrow the garments industry were to collapse because of people boycotting clothes made in bangladesh, the very people you are feeling bad about and trying to save (oh hail savior), are the ones who will be most effected.

Here is some stats: "The country has more than 5,000 factories employing more than 4 million workers and among them approximately 80% are women, many working in hazardous social conditions. It has been a major source of employment for rural migrant women in a country that has increasingly limited rural livelihood options, and where women migrants have been largely excluded from formal work in the cities."
...
"Also accounts for 80% of export income."

So to put it simply, if people were to boycott bangladeshi made garments products, this would single-handedly ruin the country and its poor people you suddenly feel so bad about...

Something needs to be done about elevating safety issues and workers condition, but boycotting won't do any good.

[CricketPagolChele]

Originally Posted by Hasan2k8
Western people should boycott buying clothes labelled 'made in Bangladesh' as a mark of respect and concern for the under payed, poorly treated workers in the garment factories industry in BD.

this is exactly what our so called neighbors India,Pakistan, and Sri lanka want. By any chance, are you from one of those countries?

[Vepu]

mind you blah we destroyed jute and chingri because of few greedy businessmen. our garment industry going same way. its not like this is the first time. its happening again and again and nothing has been done. you cant ignore this problem for so long. end of the day its human life we are talking about. if garment industry gets destroyed it will be because of greedy garment owners simple as that.

[BengaliPagol]

Rana plaza guy has been caught. I watched the live scenes and it was weird how he got caught fleeing to India. There is something fishy about that. They got his suitcase and it was reported that he fled with bundles of cash but all that was in his briefcase was clothes and toothbrush and perfumes and stuff. I reckon the RAB squad took all the koti koti taka for their own use.

Fire at the Garment Factory broke my heart as well. All that work to save that woman and the unfortunate fire broke out. It broke my heart. For 2 or more days she was there to be rescued and it didn't go to plan.

[al Furqaan]

Wonder what the government lackeys have to say about us honorably declining foreign assistance to preserve our "national pride".

[BengaliPagol]

Originally Posted by al Furqaan
Wonder what the government lackeys have to say about us honorably declining foreign assistance to preserve our "national pride".

If there was a huge tsunami in Bangladesh would the government turn away all the aid and assistance? I reckon they would just take all the aid money away for themselves...

It's astounding how the government thinks. These are lives we are talking about. If foreign assistance was there then many bodies would have been recovered at a quicker time and the fire which killed the last survivor would have never happened. It just angers me to think about these things.

[ReZ_1]

The oxygen and the sparks from cutting the rods caused fire to catch, they should have stopped the supply of oxygen for the time being and used oxygen masks

[cricket_pagol]

I think the fire incident shows that nobody is in charge of the situation, everything is run in a haphazard way.

[BengaliPagol]

Originally Posted by ReZ_1
The oxygen and the sparks from cutting the rods caused fire to catch, they should have stopped the supply of oxygen for the time being and used oxygen masks

a bit late for that

[BengaliPagol]

surely they should have known that fire would catch in that situation? I'm astounded that no one thought about that...

[ReZ_1]

and the reporters said the raw garments debris kicked the fire more, but all in all they should have known, i think it worked well for the other cases but unfortunately that female was far inside and the rescue workers were also getting tired.

[cricket_pagol]

Shocking stuff: Govt refused help on search and rescue from Britain/UN citing "national pride"

Foreign offers to provide experienced disaster rescue teams, which could potentially have saved more lives, were turned down last week, diplomatic sources said.

Documents seen by The Daily Telegraph indicate both Bangladesh's foreign and home ministries rejected the offers because they feared that accepting aid would damage national pride The documents disclose a diplomatic campaign to persuade Bangladeshi officials to accept the assistance, and "face-saving" suggestions on keeping it low-key to avoid offending Bangladeshi sensitivities.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-collapse.html

The real reason is that the govt wanted to "protect the image of BGMEA". The lack of effort to help our own people is pretty shameful

[BengaliPagol]

What national pride are they talking about? Sorry but i don't have anything great to boast about my mother country. Lives of people seem to be more important but they are worried about pride? How is pride lost if we ask nations to help us save lives?

So much poverty and corruption in the country and they are talking about pride?

[cricket_pagol]

Originally Posted by BengaliPagol
What national pride are they talking about? Sorry but i don't have anything great to boast about my mother country. Lives of people seem to be more important but they are worried about pride? How is pride lost if we ask nations to help us save lives?

So much poverty and corruption in the country and they are talking about pride?

This is just an eyewash statement. They wanted to keep the international focus away from this incident.

[cricket_pagol]

I liked the passion of the sromik leader:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_APdIkdtbk

[mona]

They weren't interested in the aid because it was man-power and expertise and not money they could fill their own pockets with. I'm angry enough to say that. If you think that we managed to save that many people with our resources, how many more could have been with foreign ones. A$$hats.

[shuziburo]

Originally Posted by Nasif
That's the worst thing you can do. Not buying will leave lot of poor workers without jobs.

The young girls are specially vulnerable. If they lose garment sector jobs, many will end up in a life of indignity. Clearly, the owners and government will do nothing. Thus, the buyers can put some pressure on the owners. We should profess that, not boycott.

[shuziburo]

Originally Posted by cricket_pagol
Shocking stuff: Govt refused help on search and rescue from Britain/UN citing "national pride"



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-collapse.html

The real reason is that the govt wanted to "protect the image of BGMEA". The lack of effort to help our own people is pretty shameful

I know that the alternative is not much better, but we should remember these events in the voting booth.

[reverse_swing]

It has emerged Bangladesh refused an offer of foreign help with the disaster which has claimed more than 380 lives.

Both the UK government and the United Nations have confirmed to the BBC that their offer of expert help in such emergencies was turned down by the Bangladeshi government.

Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina visited the site and some of the victims in hospital, assuring them they would receive help from the government.

However, some relatives of those missing complained that she did not speak to them during her visit.

Analysis
Mark Doyle
BBC International Development Correspondent
It's unusual for countries to decline help when disaster strikes - whether they are rich or poor.

Hundreds of rescuers converged on Haiti after the 2010 earthquake, for example. They performed similar work to that needed in Bangladesh.

Japan, a far richer country, also accepted substantial help following its earthquake and tsunami in 2011.

Bangladesh's Home Minister Mohiuddin Khan Alamgir said no help was needed because the local emergency services were well equipped.

This would appear to have been contradicted by the sometimes poorly-equipped volunteers scrabbling through the rubble and the apparent starting of a fire by people trying to cut their way through the building.

A senior diplomat with the UN's International Search and Rescue Advisory Group said an offer of help was made to Bangladesh very early on "because the lifesaving window of opportunity is in the first few days".

But, according to the diplomat, the Bangladesh government said it would manage the situation through domestic means.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22343620

[ReZ_1]

The rescue workers had to risk their lives to save the lives of the victim. I am not sure if the experts from uk would do that. But surely they could support us with their logistics. and some small and crucial suggestions that would have not prompted fire by the carelessness shown by us.
Don't know where our images would go or where are we now after being the head news in bbc for the last 6 days. I think govt want to take the full credit and will try to use it as a tool for the election, thats why they ignored.
But as someone said earlier mr rana is presumably a dumb person otherwise why the hell he himself was there in the building. lolzz.
Our very next step should be to make sure this has least impact on our garments sector. This is what our neighboring countries don't want. And in the mean time look for the remedy. hopefully

[roman]

Nije ra jokhon churi kore Padma bridge er loan cancel kore fello tokhon national pride khub barey gelo tai na?

[MohammedC]