Walton 15th NCL 2014

[Gowza]

nur is bowling well atm, 4 wickets in the first innings, 2 already in the 2nd innings. he's still a decent prospect, averages 26 in list A's and 33 in FC, leg spin is not an easy art an d usually takes awhile for players to find their feet so good numbers considering.

[epitaph]

Originally Posted by Gowza
asif ahmed is a young batsman in good form who has been quite consistent FC cricket over the last few years, i haven't watched him bat though so can't say much but from what i gather he has some technique issues also. i think shuvagata has a lot of talent he's i guess one of the older ones but he's a middle order bat so unless the middle order is going to change and it doesn't seem like it will then i don't see him getting in anytime soon, asif ahmed has score most of his centuries batting as either opener or #3 so he probably has a better chance but with the emergence of shamsur, anamul making scores in various formats (despite technique and footwork) and imrul making a comeback it's hard to see asif breaking through soon either.

as far as pace all rounders we don't have any options.

for spinners we've got arafat sunny, elias sunny, enamul haque jr, saqlain sajib, taijul islam, even nur hossain the leg spinner.

for pacers there is taskin, kamrul islam, abu jayed, and obviously shafiul, al amin.

Nice. Thanks for the info. Glad that we may have another top order option in Asif Ahmed in the future. A decent amount of bowling potential there too.

[Only1raz]

Anyone know who this Abdul Mazid is? Both his first-class and list A stats are impressive

[Gowza]

nurul with another 50, his batting seems to be coming along nicely, so far this season 94, 32, 31, 109, 41, 15, 39, 50*, 28, 52* (current ongoing innings), average of 61.38 so far for the season.

[Gowza]

Originally Posted by Gowza
nurul with another 50, his batting seems to be coming along nicely, so far this season 94, 32, 31, 109, 41, 15, 39, 50*, 28, 52* (current ongoing innings), average of 61.38 so far for the season.

turned that 52* into 74* which brings his season average to 64.13 and his career average 37.78.

[Moh899]

guys boycott the domestics until they make fast and bouncy pitches!

[Tiger Manc]

Good form from Nurul. He needs to come up to #6.

[MohammedC]

Hopefully this round will have our national heroes back.

Sylhet Division Vs Rangpur Division (12-04-2014)
at Fatullah Outer, Fatullah (9:00 AM BdST)

Khulna Division Vs Dhaka Metro (12-04-2014)
at SKICS & Complex, Cox's Bazar (9:00 AM BdST)

Rajshahi Division Vs Chittagong Division (12-04-2014)
at Bangladesh Krira Shikkha Prothisthan Ground-3,Savar (9:00 AM BdST)

Dhaka Division Vs Barisal Division (12-04-2014)
at Zahur Ahmed Chowdhury Stadium, Chittagong (9:00 AM BdST)

http://digicricket.marssil.com/

[MohammedShamim]

I don't understand why stadiums like Khulna, Sylhet or the newly built cox-bazaar is not used for list a match.

[Zunaid]

ITINERARY (Rounds 6 & 7)

ROUND	DATE	VENUE	MATCH
06	12-15 April 2014	SKICS, Cox’s Bazar	Khulna v Dhaka Metro
06	12-15 April 2014	ZACS, Chittagong	Dhaka v Barisal
06	12-15 April 2014	BKSP Ground 3	Rajshahi v Chittagong
06	12-15 April 2014	Fatullah Outer	Sylhet v Rangpur
07	19-22 April 2014	SKICS, Cox’s Bazar	Khulna v Dhaka
07	19-22 April 2014	ZACS, Chittagong	Dhaka Metro v Rajshahi
07	19-22 April 2014	BKSP Ground 3	Sylhet v Chittagong
07	19-22 April 2014	Fatullah Outer	Rangpur v Barisal

Follow the Walton 15th NCL on www.tigercricket.com.bd & www.digicricket.marssil.com

[Tiger444]

The only players that should feel safe for the next tour is Anamul, Shakib, Mushy, Mominul and Al-Amin. The rest of the players need to perform or else they should be dropped. Yes that includes the likes of Tamim, Nasir and Gazi. If they don't perform or get outplayed by the other players, then drop them. Past reputation should not come in to play. It's unfair when a guy like Tamim whose averaged just a 12 with a SR of a 58 this year in all formats gets matches over a guy like Imrul who hit a century in his comeback and Shamsur who also hit a century this year in Tests, something Tamim has failed to do since 2010. Nasir still has no fifties this year. Gazi's average in all formats is about a 100. Riyad has been decent with the ball but needs to prove himself with the bat. So time for them to play for the sake of their futures in the national team. There are many contenders currently waiting for their chance.

[Murad]

Fatullah outer? Is this a new ground?

Why are they not playing any games in Sylhet?

Bksp is one of the worse ground to play a FC game.

[MohammedC]

Originally Posted by Murad
Fatullah outer? Is this a new ground?

Rubbish ground. Outside of Fatullah stadium.

[Gowza]

Originally Posted by Tiger444
The only players that should feel safe for the next tour is Anamul, Shakib, Mushy, Mominul and Al-Amin. The rest of the players need to perform or else they should be dropped. Yes that includes the likes of Tamim, Nasir and Gazi. If they don't perform or get outplayed by the other players, then drop them. Past reputation should not come in to play. It's unfair when a guy like Tamim whose averaged just a 12 with a SR of a 58 this year in all formats gets matches over a guy like Imrul who hit a century in his comeback and Shamsur who also hit a century this year in Tests, something Tamim has failed to do since 2010. Nasir still has no fifties this year. Gazi's average in all formats is about a 100. Riyad has been decent with the ball but needs to prove himself with the bat. So time for them to play for the sake of their futures in the national team. There are many contenders currently waiting for their chance.

i think gazi should have to have a pretty good run of form to keep his spot for the next tour at this stage, though the selectors might think differently. tamim and nasir probably just have to show a bit of form or that they've found a bit of form and their spots will be sealed, same with shamsur i suspect. riyad will probably keep his spot as long as he can have a good innings with bat or ball.

i think anamul V imrul is an interesting battle atm. anamul is in pretty good short format form and has shown it on the world stage whereas imrul is in pretty good long format form and has shown it in the last test series. anamul will surely keep his short format spot but if he shows some form in these NCL matches he may just pip imrul for a test squad spot despite imrul getting a ton in the last series so if they both do well in these up coming matches it will be interesting to see how the selectors pick it.

for bowlers, we should keep a keen eye on arafat, taijul, and elias as i think these are the 3 main spinners on the fringe of national team selection atm.

taskin's performance will be interesting as will robiul's. robiul probably isn't in line for a limited overs spot but if he performs well should be in the test XI and if taskin does well then we may find him in the test squad (though it's a bit scary given how mushy has treated robiul and being that taskin is still so young and developing).

[Tiger444]

Originally Posted by Gowza
i think gazi should have to have a pretty good run of form to keep his spot for the next tour at this stage, though the selectors might think differently. tamim and nasir probably just have to show a bit of form or that they've found a bit of form and their spots will be sealed, same with shamsur i suspect. riyad will probably keep his spot as long as he can have a good innings with bat or ball.

i think anamul V imrul is an interesting battle atm. anamul is in pretty good short format form and has shown it on the world stage whereas imrul is in pretty good long format form and has shown it in the last test series. anamul will surely keep his short format spot but if he shows some form in these NCL matches he may just pip imrul for a test squad spot despite imrul getting a ton in the last series so if they both do well in these up coming matches it will be interesting to see how the selectors pick it.

for bowlers, we should keep a keen eye on arafat, taijul, and elias as i think these are the 3 main spinners on the fringe of national team selection atm.

taskin's performance will be interesting as will robiul's. robiul probably isn't in line for a limited overs spot but if he performs well should be in the test XI and if taskin does well then we may find him in the test squad (though it's a bit scary given how mushy has treated robiul and being that taskin is still so young and developing).

I agree Gazi will have to do very well. Same as Razzak. Taijul, Elias, Enamul and Arafat are going to put up a huge fight for the specialist spinner's spots.

And I know Tamim, Riyad and Nasir are ahead of the rest of the fringe players but they'll have to do pretty well to keep their spots. If they get outplayed by the likes of Imrul, Shamsur, Naeem, Shuvagata, Marshall and Raqibul then they might be in trouble. Nasir and Tamim are not sealed the way Shakib and Mushy are so they have to show some fire and score runs and hopefully they do.

[MohammedShamim]

anyone know if Shadman and Modadek will play? Looking forward to the upcoming players as we will need them very soon the way things are going. I want to see how Taijul performs like most of us here. Do anyone have updates on Abul Hasan injury recovery?

[Gowza]

Originally Posted by Tiger444
I agree Gazi will have to do very well. Same as Razzak. Taijul, Elias, Enamul and Arafat are going to put up a huge fight for the specialist spinner's spots.

And I know Tamim, Riyad and Nasir are ahead of the rest of the fringe players but they'll have to do pretty well to keep their spots. If they get outplayed by the likes of Imrul, Shamsur, Naeem, Shuvagata, Marshall and Raqibul then they might be in trouble. Nasir and Tamim are not sealed the way Shakib and Mushy are so they have to show some fire and score runs and hopefully they do.

razzak, he shouldn't be in the fray (though he probably is), i'm not sure enamul jr is up there anymore and sajib always misses though he'll probably perform well.

i actually think tamim and nasir's spots are pretty well sealed, tamim's moreso than nasir's but i think nasir has done enough in his career for the selectors to back him for longer if he shows a bit of form.

i don't see raqibul or shuvagata being in the fray, marshall with some good performances might make it, same with naeem, shamsur should imo be battling for a top 3 spot with imrul/anamul/tamim.

[Tiger444]

Originally Posted by Gowza
razzak, he shouldn't be in the fray (though he probably is), i'm not sure enamul jr is up there anymore and sajib always misses though he'll probably perform well.

i actually think tamim and nasir's spots are pretty well sealed, tamim's moreso than nasir's but i think nasir has done enough in his career for the selectors to back him for longer if he shows a bit of form.

i don't see raqibul or shuvagata being in the fray, marshall with some good performances might make it, same with naeem, shamsur should imo be battling for a top 3 spot with imrul/anamul/tamim.

I forgot about Noor but he's a player we should really think about since he's a leggie and has good stats to back him.

And unfortunately the selectors will probably think the same about Tamim and Nasir. They really shouldn't be sealed at all IMO. Tamim has been nothing short of dreadful so far this year. And it's not 4-5 matches. It's 11 matches now and he's averaging only 12. So his spot should nowhere be sealed. I know it's Tamim and he's one of our best players when he's on song but we can't just wait for him to show form. International cricket isn't the place to fix your form. Again I really hope he figured it out in the NCL so he can be included in the India tour but if not, he shouldn't be picked.

I feel the same way with Nasir. 17 matches and an average of a 21 so far this year and that too with a NO. In no way his spot should be sealed before going in to the NCL. He's also looked really out of touch. So if he can't get runs under his belt then he really shouldn't be picked for the India tour either.

Riyad's advantage is his bowling but we can't ignore the fact that his batting has been really poor so far this year as well. 14 matches and just an average of 17 and that too with 3 NO's. His job in the end is an all rounder and if he can perform both jobs, then his spot should be in the air.

I know Tamim and Nasir when on song are still our key players but again, if their not firing then they shouldn't keep on going. The likes of Shamsur, Imrul, Junaid, Naeem, Raqibul and Marshall have proved that they can handle international cricket and with horrid forms Tamim and Nasir are in, I'm sure they can't really do worse.

Again let's hope Tamim, Riyad and Nasir show form in the NCL so then the question of them getting dropped doesn't come up.

[Gowza]

I'd be happy for shuvagata to get s chance btw but I don't think he's done enough to warrant one despite the talent he possesses.

[Rinathq]

My hopeful list of performers:

Marshal: i really want this guy to perform in NCL and I want him back for the national XI for longer format at least. He can score runs, not edgy... just need to work on his temperament.

Elias Sunny: Again, i want him to perform so he can be back in contention for the national XI. I feel like he wasnt given enough chances and therefore, with a solid NCL, should be considered again.

Riyad: If he is planning to become more of a bowling allrounder, he needs to continue his form brom BCL and play a dominating role with the bowl. At the same time, I hope he finds his batting form back. All he needs to do for that is just face first 30 deliveries before going after the bowlers.

Taijul: The more the better! want him to perform so that he can give the walking Raj and Gazi a run for their money.

Naeem: Really need him to perform and make the 11 for the next test match. He has the temperament. Just needs to work on moving around and taking singles. him, Mominul, Mush would be a solid backbone of the batting attack. the rest jodu modu tamim shakib can play their "natural" game.

[Gowza]

for me i only want to see naeem in the running for the test squad and even still i prefer mushy, shakib, mominul, nasir, shamsur, riyad (if he has good form with the bat which is rare nowadays), shuvagata, anamul. i didn't like what i saw of marshall either but if he earns it then why not give him another go, although atm we have tamim, anamul, shamsur and imrul all fighting for a spot in the top 3 with guys like jahurul, junaid not completely out of it. personally my top 3 would be out of tamim, anamul, shamsur and imrul and 2 of them recently got test centuries so deserve to play the next test series....tamim and anamul to duke it out for the last spot.

[Tiger444]

I'm not really a fan of using FC stats for selection for the ODI side but with the India tour coming up and with the tour most likely being only an ODI tour, these stats will most likely will have an impact for the selection in the India tour.

From the top order batsmen, only Anamul would be feeling good in making the squad and I feel Tamim will do enough to make the team as well. So the fight will be between Imrul and Shamsur most likely. Whoever does better in the NCL. One will be selected and the other will sit at home.

As for the middle order batsmen, Mominul, Mushy, Shakib will make the team. Nasir, Riyad and especially Naeem will have to fight to keep their spots. Riyad just has to show some form with the bat and he'll likely make it given his importance with the ball. Nasir also should be able to perform in the NCL. Naeem has to make sure the likes of Marshall, Shabbir, Shuvagata and Raqibul don't sneak up on him and that he performs.

For the spinner's slots, it's a wide open competition thanks to Gazi and Razzak's awful form. The likes of Taijul, Arafat, Enamul, Elias, Saqlain and Noor are well in the competition.

Finally with the pacers, Al-Amin will comfortably make it. Zia will as well. It'll be interesting to see whether they keep Taskin in there assuming Rubel and Mash coming back. If they do, one will miss out most likely.

[Gowza]

Yeah no doubt FC form with play a role and probably a pretty big one when it comes to the tour. Imrul and shamsurs recent test performances should have them feeling good for test calls not short format stuff I think probably in tests tamim, shamsur and imrul will be preferred unless anamul scores big, anamul should have no problems making the short format squads though.

With shabbir coming into the picture I think he's likely to be selected ahead of naeem assuming he shows some form with bat, I don't see raqibul or shuvagata getting a look though.

Agree spinner slots are wide open. pacer slots, well al amin should be in, taskin will make it if rubel or mash can't but otherwise they'll probably be in, zia's spot still isn't secured imo.

[Tiger444]

Originally Posted by Gowza
Yeah no doubt FC form with play a role and probably a pretty big one when it comes to the tour. Imrul and shamsurs recent test performances should have them feeling good for test calls not short format stuff I think probably in tests tamim, shamsur and imrul will be preferred unless anamul scores big, anamul should have no problems making the short format squads though.

With shabbir coming into the picture I think he's likely to be selected ahead of naeem assuming he shows some form with bat, I don't see raqibul or shuvagata getting a look though.

Agree spinner slots are wide open. pacer slots, well al amin should be in, taskin will make it if rubel or mash can't but otherwise they'll probably be in, zia's spot still isn't secured imo.

I agree for Tests it's likely Tamim, Shamsur and Imrul that are the favorites for the team but if Anamul can prove himself in the NCL, then he can have a good chance of knocking one of them out.

And I disagree that Shabbir will be taken ahead of Naeem. Shabbir failed to show anything in his best format, T20s and he's been inconsistent in the DPL and NCL. So unless he has a great run here, I doubt he'll make it ahead of Naeem. As a matter of fact, Marshall and Raqibul are likely to be ahead of him due to the fact that these 2 have been far more consistent in domestics compared to Shabbir.

And I feel Zia will make it since he's a pace all rounder which makes him effective for the shorter versions. So I feel he'd have a good chance

[Gowza]

Originally Posted by Tiger444
I agree for Tests it's likely Tamim, Shamsur and Imrul that are the favorites for the team but if Anamul can prove himself in the NCL, then he can have a good chance of knocking one of them out.

And I disagree that Shabbir will be taken ahead of Naeem. Shabbir failed to show anything in his best format, T20s and he's been inconsistent in the DPL and NCL. So unless he has a great run here, I doubt he'll make it ahead of Naeem. As a matter of fact, Marshall and Raqibul are likely to be ahead of him due to the fact that these 2 have been far more consistent in domestics compared to Shabbir.

And I feel Zia will make it since he's a pace all rounder which makes him effective for the shorter versions. So I feel he'd have a good chance

tamim should lose out if anamul performs but he won't, shouldn't drop shamsur or imrul due to their centuries.

the reason i say shabbir will be favoured ahead of naeem is because the selectors like him atm or he wouldn't have played t20 WC and naeem has been out of favour recently in all formats. naeem has more performance behind him whereas with shabbir it's the potential.

has raqibul been that consistent? i know he's been alright but didn't think he was anything special on a consistency basis. marshall still in contention due to his great lsat season.

zia, well he was a replacement not originally selected for t20 WC which would be his best format so maybe he's not completely in favour but if they do want a pace all rounder then he will be picked.