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February 21, 2004, 03:50 PM
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Whats so surprising? They were all there, and he insulted a fellow reporter. It insulted all reporters.
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February 21, 2004, 05:55 PM
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worse dictator than mugabe?
WTF?
Is he trying to insult McInnes or belittle the Zimbabwean people who have suffered under Mugabe?
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February 21, 2004, 06:14 PM
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Mugabe is a "dictator" today because he wants to stop the naked exploitations of his land by the colonists. Being from the subcontinent, our sportwriters should be more sensitive in using him as a bad example. They have fallen for the English propaganda and stopped using their judgements.
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February 21, 2004, 06:19 PM
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McInnes v Mugabe
This reporter is clearly mad. He obviosluy has no idea what Mugabe is, and comparing him to a sports personality (however autocratic he may be) is just plain idiotic.
I think the case is far simpler than we think it is. He is clearly quite dictatorial, but his main failure was that he didnt understand out conditions very well. While we are used to the notion that ppl always bat first at BNS, he may not be. That doesnt get him off the hook nor make him less of an idiot, but McInnes aint Mugbe that's for sure.
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February 21, 2004, 06:21 PM
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I have never valued the opinions of sports writers in our country, I guess these are the reasons.
[Edited on 21-2-2004 by bhobishshot]
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February 21, 2004, 06:32 PM
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I made an assumption that the writer Rakibul Hassan is the Rakibul Hassan the former cricketer from our childhood. If my assumption is correct - it is a pretty lame piece from the former-cricketer-turned-sports-writer .
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February 21, 2004, 07:03 PM
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Sorry, here I go again -
these journalists are nothing but relics from the bygone era of "Socialism for all," whose prime agenda appear to be to mull over a cuppa tea , other's misfortunes and current happenings within the literary society of Kolkata.
Lets see them actually do something productive in real life, for a change !!
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February 21, 2004, 07:13 PM
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Looks like a lot has been said and there is not much I can add - there's only a handful journalists in BD who actually qualify to write about cricket or anything in that matter. Some of them are merely emotional buffoons and others really do not have much creativity to write anything out of the ordinary.
What do they write about anyways ? match reports and some match previews and the occasional emotional piece on the players or the coaches - that's about as far as they have ever gone.
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Our Sham is ten times better then some of the top journalists in BD.
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February 21, 2004, 07:14 PM
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Pundit, I am curious. How is 'sports writing' or 'productivity' in any reasonable way related to 'socialism' or the literary society in kolkata?
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February 21, 2004, 07:24 PM
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C'mon. so far ur cricticism was looking based on reason, inspired by 'shopno bhonger bedona'. but what is this. why is this narrow-mindness ?
p.s. it's always a good idea to take our reporters cautiously. u never know what motivates them: truth, vendetta or complex. just few days ago they labelled some website as our first cricket website. and we all know the amount of truth in that.
[Edited on 22-2-2004 by tnb]
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February 21, 2004, 07:58 PM
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Originally posted by Pundit
Sorry, here I go again -
these journalists are nothing but relics from the bygone era of "Socialism for all," whose prime agenda appear to be to mull over a cuppa tea , other's misfortunes and current happenings within the literary society of Kolkata.
Lets see them actually do something productive in real life, for a change !!
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pundit... you lost me here - where did you find all these 'socialism', 'kolkata' etc. connection?
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February 21, 2004, 10:14 PM
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Pundit bhai: I actually know the type of 'journalists' you're talking about! They were frequently bivuaced in roadside cafes in the dusty streets of Calcutta (Kolkata) during Jyoti Basu's earlier years. They would gossip hours on end about Marxist dogma, the supposed relevance of Naxalbari terrorists in modern Bengal, and generally bitch (sincere apologies to my SSC English teacher Mr. Rahman back home) about the state of the world.
Would I be correct in assuming that: it is the sit-on-you-rear-end, do nothing constructive and bring everyone down to join you in wallowing in your misery 'mentality' in general, that you are referring to- and not just simply a generalized manifestation of their collective habits and belief structure?
These 'journalists' are not necessarily from Kolkata, or socialists are they?
[Edited on 22-2-2004 by reinausagi]
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February 21, 2004, 10:38 PM
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the supposed relevance of Naxalbari terrorists in modern Bengal
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Should Naxalists be called "terrorists/Shontrashi"? Should our liberation war freedom fighters be called terrorists by Pakistanis as well? Any ideologists or revolutionists for that matter around the world should also be called a "terrorist"?
Sorry for the off topic.
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February 22, 2004, 01:30 AM
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I am not picking on you Adnan bhai but
but...
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Yes, may be because the reporter is not a white guy, he is a black guy like you (may be not) and me. I took that insult on me and upon the whole nation.
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You are practically accusing McInnes of racial discrimination!!! Is that fair? Do you have any proof? Are you certain about it? Do you think this sort of comment solves any problems? I hope you realise how serious your accusation is. The last thing we want to do is contribute to the possible creation of one more "myth", particularly one of this dangerous kind.
PS: I am not defending McInnes's conduct with the journalist. What he did was wrong, period! He APOLOGISED!!! End of story. Hopefully McInnes has learnt a few valuable lessons in the last few weeks. Really, give it a rest, guys!This McInnes bashing is getting ridiculous. Let us move on!
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February 22, 2004, 01:42 AM
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Navarene bhai!
very interesting point!
Indeed it does look like one man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist! :duh:
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Any ideologists or revolutionists for that matter around the world should also be called a "terrorist"?
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February 22, 2004, 02:15 AM
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yo adnan bro.. you have issues man!! Seriously!
The sad part is that you know coach may read this.... write as if he is in front of you! Show some respect!
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February 22, 2004, 05:21 AM
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U19 is kids game!
They are kids! It is very hard for them to keep consistency. Look at australia team. there is not too much coach can do for U19 team.:cool2:
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February 22, 2004, 05:27 AM
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Adnan your bowling is wide man!
This is not a White black issue! Donot try to see evrything in black and white concept. Our journalists do more harm then good to our cricket team.
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February 22, 2004, 12:35 PM
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in defence of the journalists
Many of your comments have been very negative towards the media in Bangladesh, Dhaka in particular.
I must say though, that apart from 2 of the 40 odd that may have been at the press conference and many of who i have been dealing with on a daily basis, i have no problem with them. Aside from the fact that they ask the same questions all the time and they get a little annoyed when i give them the same answers, i don' think there is a problem.
The two journalists who made personal attacks on me in the press conference, have lost credibility with me as journalists, they were not interested in the game, only in "hanging me out to dry".
I must admit that i try to give honest answers to questions rather than dance around with political correctness, but am learning that this is not always the best way to go. What ever happened to "honesty is the best policy".
Journalists are only trying to do their job, unfortunately controversy sells, so that is what they write. The press conference was blown out of all proportion.
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After Richard's justified comment on the Journalism in BD, I decided to delete my comment on this thread.
I have no problem with the "Person" Richard, it was the coach Richard whom I was cricitizing. And I do believe his position as a person is greater with his replies, although the coach Richard is yet to proof his ability.
[Edited on 2/22/2004 by adnan]
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February 22, 2004, 12:47 PM
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Navarene wrote:
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Should Naxalists be called "terrorists/Shontrashi"? Should our liberation war freedom fighters be called terrorists by Pakistanis as well? Any ideologists or revolutionists for that matter around the world should also be called a "terrorist"?
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Navarene:
You bring up a good question. I consider everyone who uses terror or armed conflict a terrorist. This is not to pass judgement on the validity of their 'cause'. As you probably know, history is replete with instances where the use of the means of terror/conflict has justified the means.
As another poster has also noted: one man's terrorist is another man's freedom/resistance fighter. I'm sure Niazi thought the Mukti Bahini were terrorists, while to us, they are our beloved freedom fighters.
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February 22, 2004, 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by Orpheus
yo adnan bro.. you have issues man!! Seriously!
The sad part is that you know coach may read this.... write as if he is in front of you! Show some respect!
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Dear Orpheus,
I think you are right about what you said. Although there is a post where you used some f* words.
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The first thing is I did not say that RIchard is a racist. I said those who were using humiliating adjectives towards our journalist, are saving Richard and they have no sympathy for the insulted journalist may be because the journalist was black...and so on. I think they, including you should also consider the fact that we should not try to attack a person with stupid words or unjustice.
I am still protesting some of the comments that have been posted on this thread.
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I actually know the type of 'journalists' you're talking about! They were frequently bivuaced in roadside cafes in the dusty streets of Calcutta (Kolkata) during Jyoti Basu's earlier years. They would gossip hours on end about Marxist dogma, the supposed relevance of Naxalbari terrorists in modern Bengal, and generally babe (sincere apologies to my SSC English teacher Mr. Rahman back home) about the state of the world.
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these journalists are nothing but relics from the bygone era of "Socialism for all," whose prime agenda appear to be to mull over a cuppa tea , other's misfortunes and current happenings within the literary society of Kolkata.
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the writer Rakibul Hassan is the Rakibul Hassan the former cricketer from our childhood. If my assumption is correct - it is a pretty lame piece from the former-cricketer-turned-sports-writer .
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February 22, 2004, 08:10 PM
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Looks like McInnes is in very hot water.. I wonder if he will be able to handle all this pressure from all sides and be able to coach the team effectively.
btw, Pundit's uncanny talent of equating socialism to all the ills of the world never ceases to amaze me.. :cool2:
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