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View Poll Results: LIst of L H spinners
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Razzak
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63.16% |
Vettori
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10 |
26.32% |
Hogg
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0% |
Panesar
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5.26% |
Yuvraj
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0% |
Jayasuria
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2.63% |
Saqibul Hasan
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September 8, 2007, 08:02 AM
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Razzak best L H spinner in the world
I think Razzak is the best Left hand spinner in the world
in odi
I think he is the second best spinner in the world in odis after
Muralitharan
Do you think any left arm spinner is better than razzak
at odi
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September 8, 2007, 08:27 AM
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No razzak is simply the best left hand spinner
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September 8, 2007, 10:40 AM
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i think its a close one between razaq and vettori in odis, but panesar is probably the best in tests. but why can't razak be effective in test??? many say its because he doesnt get enough wickets, but he does get loads of wikets in odis!!
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September 8, 2007, 12:21 PM
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what kida trade is this every 1 gona vote 4 RAZAK mostly...cuz its bangla web site. we should dont lik whos the best Leg Spin bowler in BD team..
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September 8, 2007, 12:33 PM
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Razzak is really talented and he can still improve a lot. Razzak could become the next no.1 left arm spinner in the world but he has to work hard for it and I know he can do it if he tries. Good luck to razzak in doing that.
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September 8, 2007, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Nafis_BD
but he has to work hard for it and I know he can do it if he tries.
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that sounded lik 1 of those movies "yes u can do it u can" showin emotions and stuff. yes i bliv he can if he works hard. any 1 can do any thing if the wants to and works hard for it. with a lil bit of luk
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September 8, 2007, 06:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by truetruetiger
i think its a close one between razaq and vettori in odis, but panesar is probably the best in tests. but why can't razak be effective in test??? many say its because he doesnt get enough wickets, but he does get loads of wikets in odis!!
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the reason behind this is very simple,you see when a bowler bowls tight in odi's the batsman gets frustrated and then becomes out but when it come to tests then the batsman wont get frustrated because he doesnt need to take risks,he has plenty of time ahead of him so then our razzak becomes worthless,razzaks main weapon is his ability to keep it tight and you really dont need to keep it tight in tests because the batsmen arent really gonna be in the mood of hitting and so razzak cant pick up wickets but when raz plays the odis he keeps it tight therefore frustrates the batsman and then the batsman tries to hit him and becomes out,simple aint it ,very simple and an easy explanation.
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September 8, 2007, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Dhrubo
the reason behind this is very simple,you see when a bowler bowls tight in odi's the batsman gets frustrated and then becomes out but when it come to tests then the batsman wont get frustrated because he doesnt need to take risks,he has plenty of time ahead of him so then our razzak becomes worthless,razzaks main weapon is his ability to keep it tight and you really dont need to keep it tight in tests because the batsmen arent really gonna be in the mood of hitting and so razzak cant pick up wickets but when raz plays the odis he keeps it tight therefore frustrates the batsman and then the batsman tries to hit him and becomes out,simple aint it ,very simple and an easy explanation.
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Very gud analysis Dhrubo, ur very correct on dat
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September 8, 2007, 07:54 PM
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yeah especially in WC 2007 Rasel, Sakibul Hasan and Razzak kept it real tight and Indian batsmen and SA batsmen were clueless... at certain times gave us a huge advantage...
target: if bangladesh fields first and restricts any team below 100 runs in this bizarre 20/20 world cup, then i would be thrilled.
this is a very tough poll for me to vote on, if i vote Razzak, i am replaceing emotion over logic but if i vote Jaysuriya/Vettori people will hate me(some people already might in this forum for my terrible predictions) hmmmmm....... logic versus emotion.
to save me trouble i won't vote. Razzak? only time will tell.
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September 8, 2007, 08:14 PM
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It is embarrassing that we could think Razzaq is a better spinner than Vettori. Hogg, Jayasuriya and Yuvraj are pathetic. Vettori is miles ahead while i think Rafique is still slightly behind razzaq in odis.
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September 8, 2007, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Dhrubo
the reason behind this is very simple,you see when a bowler bowls tight in odi's the batsman gets frustrated and then becomes out but when it come to tests then the batsman wont get frustrated because he doesnt need to take risks,he has plenty of time ahead of him so then our razzak becomes worthless,razzaks main weapon is his ability to keep it tight and you really dont need to keep it tight in tests because the batsmen arent really gonna be in the mood of hitting and so razzak cant pick up wickets but when raz plays the odis he keeps it tight therefore frustrates the batsman and then the batsman tries to hit him and becomes out,simple aint it ,very simple and an easy explanation.
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MAN r u sure ur 11/ or some 1 writhing this 4 u!! j/k.. J/K.BUT really good points
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September 8, 2007, 11:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dhrubo
the reason behind this is very simple,you see when a bowler bowls tight in odi's the batsman gets frustrated and then becomes out but when it come to tests then the batsman wont get frustrated because he doesnt need to take risks,he has plenty of time ahead of him so then our razzak becomes worthless,razzaks main weapon is his ability to keep it tight and you really dont need to keep it tight in tests because the batsmen arent really gonna be in the mood of hitting and so razzak cant pick up wickets but when raz plays the odis he keeps it tight therefore frustrates the batsman and then the batsman tries to hit him and becomes out,simple aint it ,very simple and an easy explanation.
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nice points dhrubo!!!
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September 9, 2007, 08:05 AM
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the national bias shall ofcourse earn his numerous plaudits.. i think he is pretty ordinary in the scheme of things. if he was something extraordinary, surely, we would have seen bangladesh win a lot more.
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September 9, 2007, 09:04 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rubel_18
Very gud analysis Dhrubo, ur very correct on dat
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thanks bhaiya
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Originally Posted by rumØrS
MAN r u sure ur 11/ or some 1 writhing this 4 u!! j/k.. J/K.BUT really good points
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Hahhaha i like your posts alot,they are just so funny lol.
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nice points dhrubo!!!
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thanks apu.
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September 9, 2007, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by scoilaheez
It is embarrassing that we could think Razzaq is a better spinner than Vettori. Hogg, Jayasuriya and Yuvraj are pathetic. Vettori is miles ahead while i think Rafique is still slightly behind razzaq in odis.
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I think razzak is a much better spinner than vettori in odis
Vettori sats
http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/ci/co...yer/38710.html
Razzak stats
http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/ci/co...yer/56283.html
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September 9, 2007, 10:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Puck
the national bias shall ofcourse earn his numerous plaudits.. i think he is pretty ordinary in the scheme of things. if he was something extraordinary, surely, we would have seen bangladesh win a lot more.
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well puck you then.
because razzak is an extraordinary, he will climb to the top ten in ODI bowling after the NZ tour.
Razzak is amazing, never have I seen someone keep it so tight in 20 20.
he is definitely the top bowler in 20/20 format as far as im concerned
http://stats.cricinfo.com/twenty20wc...ds/283194.html
2nd best average
http://stats.cricinfo.com/twenty20wc...ds/283258.html
http://stats.cricinfo.com/twenty20wc...ds/283276.html
3rd best economy
http://stats.cricinfo.com/twenty20wc...ds/283267.html
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September 9, 2007, 10:58 AM
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razzak definetly up and coming, but if he continues the way he does in the one day game for the rest of this year, he can be labelled best SLA bowler in the world in ODIs...hopefully he can develop in tests soon though
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September 9, 2007, 11:30 AM
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No dubt, Razzak is the best. However, we should bring some statistics/figures to compare with others. It helps to analyze in differnet ways.
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September 9, 2007, 04:20 PM
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he is probably the best LH spinner in ODIs at the moment. but he wont get much recognition unless he performs in tests also (which he hasnt done yet).
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September 9, 2007, 10:26 PM
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Unlike Bangladesh New Zealand isn't gifted with spinners, as in we have none . Vettori is our youngest international player ever(18) he got in because there was basicly no one else, but he has concentrated on his batting alot more, so you cant really class him as a specialist spinner anymore, he is an alrounder.
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September 9, 2007, 10:30 PM
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Rumors, make prefect sense... i agree with him!
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what kida trade is this every 1 gona vote 4 RAZAK mostly...cuz its bangla web site. we should dont lik whos the best Leg Spin bowler in BD team..
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There is no question he is the best spinner in the world.
You can just look at the polls and see he was more votes than all the others combined.
It seems that very soon he will be an all time best spinner crossing the likes of murali and warne....
p.s Dumb threads beg Dumb comments ( see above ).
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September 10, 2007, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by nzfan
Unlike Bangladesh New Zealand isn't gifted with spinners, as in we have none . Vettori is our youngest international player ever(18) he got in because there was basicly no one else, but he has concentrated on his batting alot more, so you cant really class him as a specialist spinner anymore, he is an alrounder.
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yes,but i hope new zealand can find some good spinners,how about jetan patel,i once saw him play and he wasnt that bad,he can bowl .
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September 10, 2007, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr_Naf
well puck you then.
because razzak is an extraordinary, he will climb to the top ten in ODI bowling after the NZ tour.
Razzak is amazing, never have I seen someone keep it so tight in 20 20.
he is definitely the top bowler in 20/20 format as far as im concerned
http://stats.cricinfo.com/twenty20wc...ds/283194.html
2nd best average
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oh well, he will climb mount everest, conquer the moon, take a trip to mars, take a ride on borak and visit jerusalem and all that.. he is the magnificent human being, the best of man and the best of averages. what the heck, he is a demi god
in all that, bangladesh, his team continues to lose, lose and lose.
i am going to sleep. please wake me up when bangladesh starts winning due to the magnificent contribution of this amazing man.. he is the best in the world after all..
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September 10, 2007, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by djuice
There is no question he is the best spinner in the world.
You can just look at the polls and see he was more votes than all the others combined.
It seems that very soon he will be an all time best spinner crossing the likes of murali and warne....
p.s Dumb threads beg Dumb comments ( see above ).
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he will also start talking seriously with the bat and become the best allrounder in the game. he would eclipse gary sobers as the best allrounder of all time. razzaq the magnificent..
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