|
Cricket Join fellow Tigers fans to discuss all things Cricket
|
December 6, 2010, 09:23 PM
|
|
Super Moderator BC Editorial Team
|
|
Join Date: February 12, 2004
Location: Canada
Favorite Player: Ice Man, Chatter Box
Posts: 27,678
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by LBW103
I note in today's Independent that Pont says Razzak is better than Vettori.
|
Interesting. Is there a web link?
I agree, Razzak is a beast. Vettori who? This name gets thrown around quite a bit, but the last time I checked he's a sissy who lost 4-0 to Bangladesh.
__________________
Screw the IPL, I'm going to the MLC!
|
December 6, 2010, 09:30 PM
|
|
Super Moderator BC Editorial Team
|
|
Join Date: February 12, 2004
Location: Canada
Favorite Player: Ice Man, Chatter Box
Posts: 27,678
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by LBW103
Dilscoop.. what a weird comment. What coach on earth could ever do this? You are going to judge a coach only if he makes two BD pace bowlers the world's best? ha, ha, ha.
It means the Australian, English, WI, Pak, Indian, Zim, SL and NZ bowling coaches are no good either as Steyn in world's number one (who Pont coached by the way!)
No wonder us fans look stupid to some of the coaching staff and media.
|
Well the coaching staff and the management look pretty stupid to the fans too. It's actually pretty pathetic how many times the fans are correct about things that seem far from obvious to the management. Why was Ashraful picked? Why does Mushy bat so low down the order? Why do most people who have always batted in the middle order in domestic cricket start at #8 when brought into the national team? Why is half the batting line up made up of sissies?
You'd think the coaches and selectors would know better, especially when they get to observe these players day in and day out, but unfortunately, the same mistakes are often repeated over lengthy periods of time.
__________________
Screw the IPL, I'm going to the MLC!
|
December 6, 2010, 09:32 PM
|
|
Super Moderator BC Editorial Team
|
|
Join Date: February 12, 2004
Location: Canada
Favorite Player: Ice Man, Chatter Box
Posts: 27,678
|
|
Oh and if our coaches can't make us the best in the world, they need to be *whipped* until they do, just like the players, just like the selectors and the rest of the cricket board. World Cup baby!
__________________
Screw the IPL, I'm going to the MLC!
|
December 6, 2010, 09:35 PM
|
|
Cricket Sage
|
|
Join Date: March 30, 2007
Location: Connecticut
Favorite Player: Abu Jayed Rahi
Posts: 15,523
|
|
not convinced yet until i see a 4+ match winning wicket haul in the world cup inshaAllah
|
December 6, 2010, 09:38 PM
|
|
Cricket Savant
|
|
Join Date: June 30, 2005
Location: Little Rock
Favorite Player: Viv Richards, Steve Waugh
Posts: 32,798
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by thebest
Vettori is over rated. A bowler whose career average is 31+ can not be compared with some one who have career average 27+ or 29+ (Raj and Sakib respectively). Sak is way better cricketer than Vet. So called minnow basher could be also used again vet (againest BD 18+, Ireland 5+, Sco 10+). Considering he has better support bowler I would any day take Raj over Vet as spinner , Shak over Vet as allrounder
|
We all remember what Tamim said to Vettori. He gets the tail enders only comes to bowl when 4 wicket is down. HHS.
__________________
The Weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the Strong." - Gandhi.
|
December 6, 2010, 09:39 PM
|
Cricket Guru Commissioner, MLC
|
|
Join Date: March 22, 2010
Posts: 13,532
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by LBW103
Dilscoop.. what a weird comment. What coach on earth could ever do this? You are going to judge a coach only if he makes two BD pace bowlers the world's best? ha, ha, ha.
It means the Australian, English, WI, Pak, Indian, Zim, SL and NZ bowling coaches are no good either as Steyn in world's number one (who Pont coached by the way!)
No wonder us fans look stupid to some of the coaching staff and media.
|
Wrong. I'd say read my post and try again.
Let me break it down for you: "Until Ian Pont (a fast-bowling coach) can call out Shafi and Rubel (our current young bowlers) as number one and better than Dale Steyn (which they aren't atm), I won't bother about what he thinks of Razzak (a spinner)"
So I don't know what's all these random stuff coming from:
Quote:
You are going to judge a coach only if he makes two BD pace bowlers the world's best? ha, ha, ha.
|
Again, I don't know where you got that from but I wasn't trying to judge weather he is good or not. I already knew he built DS and Akhtar.
Quote:
It means the Australian, English, WI, Pak, Indian, Zim, SL and NZ bowling coaches are no good either as Steyn in world's number one
|
vary random, because I was never saying anything like that...
|
December 6, 2010, 11:21 PM
|
Banned
|
|
Join Date: August 25, 2005
Location: USA
Favorite Player: da silva
Posts: 696
|
|
Had we won the 1st ODI (which we should have done) we would now be sitting at 7 straight ODI wins. The world record is 12 ODI wins. After this series (2 more to go) we would have been at 9 ODI wins in a row if we had won the first and win the last two. This includes the 4 ODI's against a TOP EIGHT country ranked 5 at the time.
I know we like to say this player should play etc and that player is bad etc, but whatever we say the team are performing really well. This is easily the best winning streak in BD history.
Whatever anyone believes the selectors (not coaching staff as they do not pick the team) are doing right, the fact is the players are getting it right on the field. I am sure the guys will slip up as they are still learning and we as fans will be critical. However, let's back our coaches who are doing a great job and TRUST their judgement. they are the ones who work every day with the team after all.
|
December 6, 2010, 11:42 PM
|
|
Super Moderator BC Editorial Team
|
|
Join Date: February 12, 2004
Location: Canada
Favorite Player: Ice Man, Chatter Box
Posts: 27,678
|
|
We should definitely back our coaches and our players. Having said that, some of the issues - mostly with the batting line up, power play usage, etc - just don't seem to go away. The fast bowling looks promising but definitely not up there with our spin resources and we'll have to wait and see what Pont and his guys have in store for us in the upcoming months.
__________________
Screw the IPL, I'm going to the MLC!
|
December 7, 2010, 12:36 AM
|
Banned
|
|
Join Date: August 25, 2005
Location: USA
Favorite Player: da silva
Posts: 696
|
|
Is it time to FORGET the power play as an important event? Why not just bat normally and then the positive shots lead to boundaries anyway with only 3 fielders out?
We seem to get hooked up on PP but it is irrelevant to the way BD seems to play and if anything is it a negative thing. Just bat normally guys. Simple.
|
December 7, 2010, 12:51 AM
|
|
2018 BPL Fantasy Winner
|
|
Join Date: October 30, 2010
Favorite Player: Mash
Posts: 22,931
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by LBW103
Had we won the 1st ODI (which we should have done) we would now be sitting at 7 straight ODI wins. The world record is 12 ODI wins.
|
the world record is 21 wins in a row..our record is 9...source cricinfo
__________________
kumbaya
|
December 7, 2010, 01:13 AM
|
|
Test Cricketer
|
|
Join Date: April 29, 2010
Location: ∞
Favorite Player: Nasir Hossain
Posts: 1,339
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Night_wolf
the world record is 21 wins in a row..our record is 9...source cricinfo
|
by which team ? just curious
__________________
৺
|
December 7, 2010, 02:56 AM
|
|
2018 BPL Fantasy Winner
|
|
Join Date: October 30, 2010
Favorite Player: Mash
Posts: 22,931
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by 22Yards
by which team ? just curious
|
the once mighty Ausies...who else!...and they have done it twice!..both the 2003 and 2007 WC was part of this streak
__________________
kumbaya
Last edited by Night_wolf; December 7, 2010 at 09:53 PM..
|
December 7, 2010, 03:57 AM
|
|
Cricket Savant
|
|
Join Date: December 23, 2007
Location: The Quiet Place
Favorite Player: Curtly Ambrose
Posts: 27,469
|
|
next debate who is a better batsman "suhrawardi shubo or nathan mcullam "
|
December 7, 2010, 04:30 AM
|
|
Test Cricketer
|
|
Join Date: April 7, 2006
Location: land down under
Favorite Player: who else?
Posts: 1,451
|
|
If Razzak can destroy India's batting lineup in coming World Cup, then I will say he is NO 1
__________________
"What a magnificent shot! No, he's out."
|
December 7, 2010, 04:34 AM
|
|
2018 BPL Fantasy Winner
|
|
Join Date: October 30, 2010
Favorite Player: Mash
Posts: 22,931
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by tiger_army
If Razzak can destroy India's batting lineup in coming World Cup, then I will say he is NO 1
|
he took 3 wiks vs them in 07 wc...he can do it again
__________________
kumbaya
|
December 7, 2010, 04:36 AM
|
|
2019 WC Fantasy Winner
|
|
Join Date: October 17, 2010
Favorite Player: Shakib, Brian Lara
Posts: 14,076
|
|
even shane warne/murali couldnt do that to the indians... so thats a tough ask...
for me if he can perform as well as he is doing in at least two of the games against SA, Eng or WI it would go a long way in ensuring our quaterfinal spot
__________________
Caught Somewhere in Time
|
December 7, 2010, 11:24 AM
|
|
Cricket Legend
|
|
Join Date: December 18, 2007
Location: Dhaka
Favorite Player: tamim,shafiul,mushy
Posts: 6,743
|
|
i care about what he says about our pacers and not the spinners!
__________________
haruk ba jituk,i am always there with BD cricket!!!!
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is On
|
|
|
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:55 PM.
|
|