WI players to watch out for - weakness and strength analysis

[kalpurush]

Originally Posted by amar11432
I dont get it. Why would the ball turn if there is moist in the pitch. Wetness is spins enemy.

Sorry, I ment soft wicket, not Moist! My bad!!

স্পিনার নাঈম ইসলামেরও একই হতাশা, ‘আয়ারল্যান্ড ম্যাচের উইকেট খুব শুকনো ছিল। এ রকম উইকেটে বল ঘোরে না। উইকেটটা একটু নরম থাকলে স্পিনারদের টার্ন করাতে সুবিধা হয়।’

[shuziburo]

I hope someone can post a more comprehensive scouting report. But, in batting Gayle and Pollard can murder any bowling. Gayle can be susceptible to spin in the beginning. Once he is set, he can play the spinners comfortably. Pollard can be deadly against any bowling, but can be vulnerable against deliveries on the stamps in the beginning.

Chanderpaul and Sarwan can be good against spin and pace, but are not explosive like Gayle or Pollard. Bravo is also a dependable batsman. However, these three generally will not explode.

Kemar Roach is their main strike bowler. In fact, their only strike bowler. However, he has just shown what damage he can do by himself. He can routinely bowl 150 kph and extract high bounce despite being only 5'-8". As he is almost their only real threat, we need to play him very carefully and go after the rest. Take singles and two's off Roach and punish the odd bad delivery. That should be enough to get 38-45 from his 10 overs. If we can keep him wicketless, we should be able to score 280 or so, or even more.

[riankhan]

Originally Posted by shuziburo
Kemar Roach ....can routinely bowl 150 kph and extract high bounce despite being only 5'-8".

5'8" ! Are you sure?
He looked much taller.

[fuadomar]

Originally Posted by riankhan
5'8" ! Are you sure?
He looked much taller.

Well, wiki has the information, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kemar_Roach

[mij]

Pollard, he likes playing:

- Short ball
- Most of the ball he hit straight, thats where he gets most of the run even flat 6s.
- Bowler need to ball fuller to him, and ball lots of cuter, spinner most turn the ball.
- He plays well in flat pitch
- He suits better in 20/20 format
- If he plays last 5-10 over he can score big. coming in earlier usually cant do much.

[Sohel]

From another thread

[BangladeshFan]

I am not too worried about their bowlers. more worried about their big hitters, this Pollard and Gayle ofcourse. We have to start with a spinner and never let their batsman settle into any kind of groove.

[silversurf]

We are all doing analysis each and every way we can. I wonder whether bangladesh team management or anyone can reach this analysis and our discussion to our team.

[riankhan]

Look at Davon Smith's wagon wheel, he scored 50 out of his 53 runs from On Side [below]




Kieron Pollard's wagon wheel (no Cut Shot!) [below]




Kieron Pollard's filtered wagon wheel, only Fours and Sixes (Again, no Cut Shot been played) [below]



I hope our team management does check these stats

[F6_Turbo]

Not to state the bleeding obvious, but Gayle if in the mood has it in him, to win a match by himself, I however actually think Chanderpaul and Sarwan are key...both are accumulators, obviously Chanderpaul more so, but both are good players of spin, and have scored a lot of international runs, and against all manner of opponents.

[betaar]

Great going guys, please keep it up. We should do whatever we can to help our team, doesn't matter whether it reaches our players or not or whether they even unitlize these analysis, but as passionate as we are, we should never stop.

[Sovik]

Originally Posted by riankhan
Look at Davon Smith's wagon wheel, he scored 50 out of his 53 runs from On Side [below]




Kieron Pollard's wagon wheel (no Cut Shot!) [below]




Kieron Pollard's filtered wagon wheel, only Fours and Sixes (Again, no Cut Shot been played) [below]



I hope our team management does check these stats

Devon smith is left handed and he scores most of his runs square of the wicket.

pollard didn't get any back of the length ball to either cut or pull

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[SS]

This thread is really interesting and may be deserve some attention from the BC elites and bosses...may be valuable for coach too...but we definitely need to summarize the content as they might not have time to read everything...

[KaaL-PurusH]

gayle played pretty slow in that match and didnt look that comfortable. should be able to remove him but putting pressure and good game plan

[betaar]

Originally Posted by SS
This thread is really interesting and may be deserve some attention from the BC elites and bosses...may be valuable for coach too...but we definitely need to summarize the content as they might not have time to read everything...

If it fails to grab attention of the so called BC elites then how it would get attention of our national team coaches and players.

But so far the information provided here is tremendous, hats off to you guys.....keep'em coming.

[shuziburo]

Originally Posted by betaar
If it fails to grab attention of the so called BC elites then how it would get attention of our national team coaches and players.

But so far the information provided here is tremendous, hats off to you guys.....keep'em coming.

We'll need someone to summarize it (say Wednesday) and send the summary to Ian Pont. He can then present it to the Head Coach, Captain, etc.

[Nafi]

seriously though, BC could become the opposition analysis, do the hard work and figuring out the weakness of the opposition, and Julien/Ian could relay it back to the players.

We could make a much bigger difference

[SS]

Originally Posted by riankhan
Look at Davon Smith's wagon wheel, he scored 50 out of his 53 runs from On Side [below]




Kieron Pollard's wagon wheel (no Cut Shot!) [below]




Kieron Pollard's filtered wagon wheel, only Fours and Sixes (Again, no Cut Shot been played) [below]



I hope our team management does check these stats

We have to start compling from here...so far we have Davon Smith' and Pollard...we gotta do the same for Gayle, Sarwan and others

[cricman]

If you don't think the Coaches and players haven't gone already gone through the film sessions and statistical, and all different types of analysis on ALL OUR Opponents already than your doing them a great disservice.

Coach Pont said it best it doesn't matter what they do, it matters what we do. Our players do their part they wont beat us

[shane2k]

Hope the Tigers memories these and successfully strategies on them when they are on the field based on the player is playing...

[Beamer]

Good thread betaar. For me, the key is Gayle. Once this guy gets going and gets set, he has a penchant for playing long innings with crazy SR. It wont matter what the rest does if he is allowed to pull a Shewag on us. Getting him early will increase our chances by 50% in my opinion. However, he will give you chances behind the wkt. I will set an aggressive field for him in wkt taking positions, even if we sacrifice a few odd boundaries in the beginning. I would much rather have Gayle score 40 in 20 balls, then a 150 in 140 balls. The SR will come down with Sarwan and Chanderpaul. Those two will milk singles all day and we will have to move on to next phase of preventing easy singles. So, its Gayle, Gayle and Gayle to start with. I am sure they are looking at Tamim the same way.

[cricman]

Originally Posted by Beamer
the key is Gayle. Getting him early will increase our chances by 50% in my opinion. So, its Gayle, Gayle and Gayle to start with.

Beamer, Ashraful said the same exact comments

The experienced campaigner singled out Gayle as the most dangerous player for the Tigers.


“In my opinion half the job will be done if we can dismiss Gayle early because he is a very dangerous batsman

2012 the world is coming to the end

[betaar]

Originally Posted by cricman
If you don't think the Coaches and players haven't gone already gone through the film sessions and statistical, and all different types of analysis on ALL OUR Opponents already than your doing them a great disservice.

Coach Pont said it best it doesn't matter what they do, it matters what we do. Our players do their part they wont beat us

No one is questioning our support staffs ability or analysis. We are just trying to do what we can so no stone is unturned. A thousand BC members' thinking hat could turn out to be an asset to our national team's specialist coaches and analysts.

You are right, it's one thing to analyze and plan and another to implement.....since we are not the players and cannot implement, the only thing we can do is analyze based on facts and observations, not based on our gut feeling, and hope something good comes out.

[Beamer]

Are you serious cricman? When did he say that? Damn it. I have to change my views now..lol. Maybe, he is not as dumb as he plays. Oh boy..

[shuziburo]

Originally Posted by Beamer
Good thread betaar. For me, the key is Gayle. Once this guy gets going and gets set, he has a penchant for playing long innings with crazy SR. It wont matter what the rest does if he is allowed to pull a Shewag on us. Getting him early will increase our chances by 50% in my opinion. However, he will give you chances behind the wkt. I will set an aggressive field for him in wkt taking positions, even if we sacrifice a few odd boundaries in the beginning. I would much rather have Gayle score 40 in 20 balls, then a 150 in 140 balls. The SR will come down with Sarwan and Chanderpaul. Those two will milk singles all day and we will have to move on to next phase of preventing easy singles. So, its Gayle, Gayle and Gayle to start with. I am sure they are looking at Tamim the same way.

For us, the key is getting Gayle early and not allowing Roach to destroy us. Pollard also can do some damage, but Gayle can play a Pollard inning, for a longer period.