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April 5, 2011, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Equinox
Alok should have been the captain but it doesn't really matter. Decent squad overall no SLA or a specialist spinner for that matter, good set of pacers however I would've picked Dhiman or Anamul instead of Mithun and Rony.
My XI:
Myshukur Rahman
Mithun Ali+
Rony Talukder
Rokibul Hasan
Shuvagoto Hom
Alok Kapali
Shabbir Rahman
Mahmudul Hasan
Farhad Reza
Nazmul Hossain
Shuvashish Roy
12th Man: Mahbubul Alam Robin
Will be interesting to see how Shabbir and Shuvagoto fare against the Aussie bowlers.
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I would have picked Ziaur Rahman and Anamul haque for Alok Kapali and Mithun instead...
Reasons: Kapali should be in the first team period and Ziaur Rahman is a good bowler with the old ball and one of the cleanest striker of the cricket ball in domestic cricket. Unfortunately never talked about much...
Mithun has a bad technique, I have seen the match against Afghanistan (T20) and his technique is seriously flawed. Anamul haque seems much more accomplished both as a batsmen and as a keeper.
Really Really Glad that Shuvasish Roy got some kind of chance. He started of as one of the fastest bowler in domestic cricket. And now almost lost...
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April 5, 2011, 07:07 PM
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Good squad overtall, but...No Asif & Anamul Haque Bijoy but Mysukur Rahman
NO SLA too
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Asif is very young, facing the likes of Lee and Johnson will be traumatic for this young fellow, good decision, I must say.
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April 5, 2011, 07:51 PM
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I'm guessing from this team that the XI for the 1st ODI is:
Tamim, Imrul, SN, ?, Shakib, Mushfiq, ?, Mahmadullah, Razzak, Shafiul, Rubel
with Rokibul, Hom and Kapali filling in the 2 question marks based on this match. (Assuming Mash is going to declare himself 'unfit').
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April 5, 2011, 08:50 PM
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I'm guessing from this team that the XI for the 1st ODI is:
Tamim, Imrul, SN, ?, Shakib, Mushfiq, ?, Mahmadullah, Razzak, Shafiul, Rubel
with Rokibul, Hom and Kapali filling in the 2 question marks based on this match. (Assuming Mash is going to declare himself 'unfit').
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Could probably play Nazmul in place of a batsman in that line up.
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April 5, 2011, 08:56 PM
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April 5, 2011, 09:13 PM
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Selecting some national player like Kapali,Hom,Rock and Nazmul is a good decision.Its clear that there is definite plan.Out of this 3 batsman 2 will get a chance in the national team.
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April 5, 2011, 09:25 PM
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No SLA is a smart decision given that that is our only strength and we don't want the aussies to get real practice, sorry.
It's more a "test" match for some of the bats.
Rock - Not a fan. During the IND-PAK match, I was watching MIsbah and reminded me of Rok. He plays only for himself, he can't read the ball until it's too late. He is a good shot for test matches as there is no RR consideration so he can waste a lot of good balls by playing intentional non-scoring shots. Making him a captain could be for various reasons. One could be, if he can't perform, make him a captain and it's a guaranteed position. We've had our share of those before.
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April 5, 2011, 09:50 PM
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I like.
And though I myself am no fan of Rakibul, he's one of the guys with potential to play a long innings. And if he makes some runs in the practice match, then fair enough, should give him another shot.
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April 5, 2011, 10:18 PM
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Ei match BCB XI jitle ami shobai ke mishti khawabo.
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April 5, 2011, 10:20 PM
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Ei match BCB XI jitle ami shobai ke mishti khawabo.
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hehehe...
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April 5, 2011, 11:06 PM
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Selecting some national player like Kapali,Hom,Rock and Nazmul is a good decision.Its clear that there is definite plan.Out of this 3 batsman 2 will get a chance in the national team.
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I was thinking that too. It seems quite clear that only 2 or maybe even one amongst these three will get picked for the main team. Big test for Rok/SN/Hom
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April 5, 2011, 11:31 PM
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We played Nayem and Riyad in the same squad before so I can us playing Kapali and Riyad in the same line up. I think if Hom can show a glimpse of hope he'll probably get the nod ahead of Nirala.
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April 6, 2011, 01:24 AM
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Rock - Not a fan. During the IND-PAK match, I was watching MIsbah and reminded me of Rok. He plays only for himself, he can't read the ball until it's too late.
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IMO, Misbah played a wonderful innings in that semi-final. If someone could just stay with him, Pakis would have won that match easily. With Umar Akmal, Razzak and Afridi at the other end, he had to hold one end and he did that perfectly. If any of these 3 could stay longer with Misbah, Pakis could win easily.
The basic difference is, Misbah can increase the scoring rate, our Roq can not.
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April 6, 2011, 01:32 AM
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Misbah didn't play a wonderful innings. While I agree he can't be entirely blamed for the loss, he failed to rotate the strike and the likes of umar akmal had to take the risk because of that.
And rok can increase the s/r after settling in. He did so in the 1st ODI vs england in the final overs and had a decent s/r (80+ if i'm right) at the end. The issue with both misbah and rok is their inability to rotate the strike which sucks.
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April 6, 2011, 01:36 AM
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Misbah showed how bulk-spot fixing is done and done right, not that Dhoni's men needed that type of insurance
On topic: DaRok as captain = GOD help us all!
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April 6, 2011, 01:59 AM
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If it was spot fixed, then nothing to say. But if not, then Misbah's innings wasn't that bad. Pakistan was unlucky that Misbah and Younus got together in the crease, both play similar roles and slowed the tempo in the middle overs. Ideally Pakistan would like Umar to bat with younus, and Razzak/Afridi to bat with Misbah.
Misbah's role was to hold one end up while the other batsman goes bonkers, but they never did and ended up making Misbah look like a fool
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April 6, 2011, 02:05 AM
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Misbah showed how bulk-spot fixing is done and done right, not that Dhoni's men needed that type of insurance
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hehehe..same here !!
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April 6, 2011, 02:42 AM
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Misbah didn't play a wonderful innings. While I agree he can't be entirely blamed for the loss, he failed to rotate the strike and the likes of umar akmal had to take the risk because of that.
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That is actually not true. When Umar Akmal got out, they needed only at 6.6 runs per over from 18 overs only. He got out because of a nothing shot, not because of the rrr pressure. Afridi's out was another nothing shot.
He certainly had problems in rotating the strike. Razzak also had the same problem. The difference is, he did not throw his wicket away. The wicket and Indian bowling required some patience and he did exactly that. Pakistan lost because of being allout, not because of rrr pressure. If they had a single batsman at the other end even in the last five/six overs (needing only 10/11 rpo), they could have easily made it.
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IMO, Misbah played a wonderful innings in that semi-final. If someone could just stay with him, Pakis would have won that match easily. With Umar Akmal, Razzak and Afridi at the other end, he had to hold one end and he did that perfectly. If any of these 3 could stay longer with Misbah, Pakis could win easily.
The basic difference is, Misbah can increase the scoring rate, our Roq can not.
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I also wan2 to say that Misba played a good innings.To me faults were:
1.He ran out of partners.
2.Afridi failed to give a support
3.Power Play was taken too late
4.He could have started taking risks a bit early.
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April 6, 2011, 04:20 AM
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That is actually not true. When Umar Akmal got out, they needed only at 6.6 runs per over from 18 overs only. He got out because of a nothing shot, not because of the rrr pressure. Afridi's out was another nothing shot.
He certainly had problems in rotating the strike. Razzak also had the same problem. The difference is, he did not throw his wicket away. The wicket and Indian bowling required some patience and he did exactly that. Pakistan lost because of being allout, not because of rrr pressure. If they had a single batsman at the other end even in the last five/six overs (needing only 10/11 rpo), they could have easily made it.
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How could you be so sure that they could score those 10 rpo in last 5 or 6 overs? SL lost a close match chasing over 400+, they still had mathews and needed far less than that. We've pulled back such close matches brilliantly though our bowling is weak.
The pitch was slow and not easy to score runs on. Misbah and Younis hogged strike and got RR up to 6+ considering that they were cruising before. Hafeez and Shafiq were rotating the strike well and getting the occassional boundary. What was the purpose of defending half voleys and building pressure?
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April 6, 2011, 04:27 AM
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How could you be so sure that they could score those 10 rpo in last 5 or 6 overs? SL lost a close match chasing over 400+, they still had mathews and needed far less than that. We've pulled back such close matches brilliantly though our bowling is weak.
The pitch was slow and not easy to score runs on. Misbah and Younis hogged strike and got RR up to 6+ considering that they were cruising before. Hafeez and Shafiq were rotating the strike well and getting the occassional boundary. What was the purpose of defending half voleys and building pressure?
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I thought about that. If you look at Misbah's innings, he was scoring at more than 9 rpo in the last 4/5 overs (discard the 50th over). Add to the fact that, he was denying singles with no. 10 or 11 at the other end. So, effectively his own scoring was able to keep pace with the requirements. Both Afridi and Razzak have the ability to score even at a better rate. Any of them giving him the company would have been enough.
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rock wanna be rokibul sucks has no brain
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April 6, 2011, 05:16 AM
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I thought about that. If you look at Misbah's innings, he was scoring at more than 9 rpo in the last 4/5 overs (discard the 50th over). Add to the fact that, he was denying singles with no. 10 or 11 at the other end. So, effectively his own scoring was able to keep pace with the requirements. Both Afridi and Razzak have the ability to score even at a better rate. Any of them giving him the company would have been enough.
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Well that's all hypothetical scenarios. Zaheer was off radar for that one huge over of his which cost 14 runs. They were just waiting to get this over with obviously. Like what happened when they just needed 6 off 4 balls in the world t20, that too of joginder sharma's bowling? He should've just rotated the strike with umar akmal instead and that would have taken a lot of pressure off him.
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April 6, 2011, 05:33 AM
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I got a feeling Rock will perform well.
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April 6, 2011, 05:40 AM
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^ rotating the strike with Umar Akmal could be better for sure; but doing that was not easy and to his credit he did not throw his wicket away like the others. I do not see why Umar Akmal was in the pressure with a 6.5 rpo asking rate in the last 20 overs. The key here is, by not taking those singles, the target still did not go out of reach. And more importantly, he was able to capitalize on his patience at the later stage. Zaheer's radar was lost because of a few boundaries being scored off him. It was a pressure game for both sides and the scenario could have changed in either direction. Even Misbah could dismantle Zaheer. You can imagine what would have happened if Afridi were at the other end.
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