Even if Mash wasn't injured he still shouldn't have been picked for 15 man world cup Squad an this is why:

[Rinathq]

listing the stats between Mash and Shafi when they both played together since last summer,
1st match,
Mash: 6 overs, 30 runs, Econ: 5
Shafiul: 5 overs, 46 runs, Econ: 9.5

2nd match
Mash: 10 Overs, 42 Runs, 2 wickets, Econ: 4.2
Shafi: 9.3 Overs, 38 runs 2 wickets, Econ: 4

3rd Match,
Mash: 10 Overs, 31 runs, 3 wickets, Econ: 3.10
Shafi: 9 Overs, 97 runs, 2 wickets, Econ: 10.77

Zim Tour,
Mash: 6 overs, 36 runs, Econ : 6
Shafi: 4 overs, 21 runs, Econ: 5.25 (he bowled less)

2nd match
Mash: 3 Over, 17 runs, Econ 5.66
Shafi: 5 overs, 28 runs, 1 wicket. Same Econ

3rd match
Mash: 10 overs, 20 runs, 1 wicket, Econ: 2
Shafi: 9 Overs, 46 runs, 4 wickets, Econ: 4.69

4th Match
Mash: 8 Overs, 25 Runs, 2 wickets, Econ: 3
Shafi: 7 Overs, 10 Runs 1 wicket, Econ: 1.4

This is the stat between the injury return Mash and Shafiul. In England series, Mashrafee cleary dominated over Shafiul and he did it against a tougher team.
On the Zim series, Shafi was better but Mashrafee was also very good.

I wont even go to Mash's batting, where i couple matches he have us the edge.
But based on these stats, its insane to suggest that Mash shouldnt get a chance where Shafiul is an automatic choice.

[ahnaf]

Originally Posted by Shehwar
Only KKR!!! What about Taylor and Zimbabwe??? Because of Mash we lost the only series against Zimbabwe in the last 5 years!

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didnt u watch the match against England that we won??

[ahnaf]

Originally Posted by rinathq
listing the stats between Mash and Shafi when they both played together since last summer,
1st match,
Mash: 6 overs, 30 runs, Econ: 5
Shafiul: 5 overs, 46 runs, Econ: 9.5

2nd match
Mash: 10 Overs, 42 Runs, 2 wickets, Econ: 4.2
Shafi: 9.3 Overs, 38 runs 2 wickets, Econ: 4

3rd Match,
Mash: 10 Overs, 31 runs, 3 wickets, Econ: 3.10
Shafi: 9 Overs, 97 runs, 2 wickets, Econ: 10.77

Zim Tour,
Mash: 6 overs, 36 runs, Econ : 6
Shafi: 4 overs, 21 runs, Econ: 5.25 (he bowled less)

2nd match
Mash: 3 Over, 17 runs, Econ 5.66
Shafi: 5 overs, 28 runs, 1 wicket. Same Econ

3rd match
Mash: 10 overs, 20 runs, 1 wicket, Econ: 2
Shafi: 9 Overs, 46 runs, 4 wickets, Econ: 4.69

4th Match
Mash: 8 Overs, 25 Runs, 2 wickets, Econ: 3
Shafi: 7 Overs, 10 Runs 1 wicket, Econ: 1.4

This is the stat between the injury return Mash and Shafiul. In England series, Mashrafee cleary dominated over Shafiul and he did it against a tougher team.
On the Zim series, Shafi was better but Mashrafee was also very good.

I wont even go to Mash's batting, where i couple matches he have us the edge.
But based on these stats, its insane to suggest that Mash shouldnt get a chance where Shafiul is an automatic choice.

well said.. I still cant believe pepole r saying this... They already forget his outstanding performance during eng nd associate series!!

[ahnaf]

Originally Posted by FastBowler
You know when Afridi has a go, he can make world's best bowler the worst. So That doesn't mean Shafiul is a poor bowler. He is improving day by day. Still Mash is our first choice bowler if fully fit and get match practice. We all know his poor bowling against Zim in first 2 matches. So not picking a struggling Mash is a good move.

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can u show me shafiul'r outstanding bowling figure in those two match plz??

[ahnaf]

Originally Posted by BANFAN
Thanks a lot.

@ rinathq 5oth over:


Although Mash played well, but if Mash was bowling this over, he wouldnt have defended 10 runs, guaranteed. That was his weakness despite being a good new ball nowler and generally eonomical. if he was regularly bowling these last overs, his economy could be destroyed quiet a bit, Yet A fit Mash could be a good combination with Shafiul & Rubel.

It needs guts & skills of controlling the ball, to bowl the last over and defending the target. That's a natural ability, and Shafiul is distinctly ahead of Mash in that. on the other hand It's a matter of skill and experience to be able to ball the bew ball. That comes with time if a player has skills of controlling the ball. Which Shahadat didnt have, but Shafiul and Rubel has. That's why these two have the potential to be better bowlers than Mash. But as I said, A fit Mash is still desireable in the team, until Shafiul/Rubel gets that new ball bowling right with some experience. It's relatively easy.

Bhaiya Can u remember a injury free mash at the begining of his career??? Can u remember a guy without playing a first class match nd without any guide without any coaches help bowling in international match at the speed of around 140+ with natural swing nd bounce even in a dead track??? Do u think if shafi nd rubel have the half of injury that mash had will continue to play??
They are my fav player also but a full fit injury free mash is way way better than these two...

[tiger_army]

Mash is a gr8 bowler but when he comes back from a injury he is really really terrible. That what he did against Zimbo on his first two games. I have seen so many members in this forum called him a burden.

Also another negative part about him is whenever he gets nervous he throws it away. I have seen in Shakib, he never breaks down but mash can be cracked easily.

Anyway he was back in form and he would be the auto choice but now he is injured and he should not be included in the team.

[Shehwar]

Originally Posted by ahnaf
didnt u watch the match against England that we won??

Yup I did ... Don't get me wrong bro ... I love Mash! I just don't think he is a very good bowler at the death in general ... Unlike alot of the other guys here I still think he is an automatic choice when fit because he is top class with the new ball ...

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[jahidus200]

Originally Posted by rinathq
listing the stats between Mash and Shafi when they both played together since last summer,
1st match,
Mash: 6 overs, 30 runs, Econ: 5
Shafiul: 5 overs, 46 runs, Econ: 9.5

2nd match
Mash: 10 Overs, 42 Runs, 2 wickets, Econ: 4.2
Shafi: 9.3 Overs, 38 runs 2 wickets, Econ: 4

3rd Match,
Mash: 10 Overs, 31 runs, 3 wickets, Econ: 3.10
Shafi: 9 Overs, 97 runs, 2 wickets, Econ: 10.77

Zim Tour,
Mash: 6 overs, 36 runs, Econ : 6
Shafi: 4 overs, 21 runs, Econ: 5.25 (he bowled less)

2nd match
Mash: 3 Over, 17 runs, Econ 5.66
Shafi: 5 overs, 28 runs, 1 wicket. Same Econ

3rd match
Mash: 10 overs, 20 runs, 1 wicket, Econ: 2
Shafi: 9 Overs, 46 runs, 4 wickets, Econ: 4.69

4th Match
Mash: 8 Overs, 25 Runs, 2 wickets, Econ: 3
Shafi: 7 Overs, 10 Runs 1 wicket, Econ: 1.4

This is the stat between the injury return Mash and Shafiul. In England series, Mashrafee cleary dominated over Shafiul and he did it against a tougher team.
On the Zim series, Shafi was better but Mashrafee was also very good.

I wont even go to Mash's batting, where i couple matches he have us the edge.
But based on these stats, its insane to suggest that Mash shouldnt get a chance where Shafiul is an automatic choice.

YOO Man i agree with you , this thered need to be closed , without masraffie our pace bowling attacks so weak , i dont understand people just think about somethings thats gonna bring worst for bangladesh team trust me , if masraffie get fit by before the world cup insallah definitely we are going through atleast semifinal , or even final ,

[PoorFan]

Originally Posted by rinathq
...This is the stat between the injury return Mash and Shafiul. In England series, Mashrafee cleary dominated over Shafiul and he did it against a tougher team.
On the Zim series, Shafi was better but Mashrafee was also very good.

I wont even go to Mash's batting, where i couple matches he have us the edge.
But based on these stats, its insane to suggest that Mash shouldnt get a chance where Shafiul is an automatic choice.

What makes you so sure that same 'injury return Mash' will be back again with his latest injury? + No local / international match / practice for so long? That stats hardly can be taken as a wishful return of him again in BD cricket, but cant back up his inclusion in WC team IMO.

[Jadukor]

For a guy who has put his body on the line for our team for so many years, calling him gutless is a bit unfair... I remember being really angry during that zimbabwe match...and felt even worse when Rahit Sharma took him apart in the IPL.... but those things do happen to people... Broad got hit for six sixes in an over...did that make him a bad bowler?...

If I have to rate Mashrafi... I would say he is the best new ball bowler we ever had... He has the swing... and he has the control.... injuries have cut down his pace a lot sadly but when he is in rhythm his in-swingers can cause trouble for even the best in the business... He would have been a key weapon against Sehwag especially...

his skills with the older ball perhaps isn't as good... but I am sure with our New bowling coach he will improve that aspect of his bowling as well...