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Old September 19, 2013, 04:43 AM
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Tests:

1. Tamim Iqbal Khan
2. Anamul Haque
3. Mominul Haque
4. Naeem Islam
5. Shakib Al Hasan
6. Mushfiqur Rahim (C)
7. Nasir Hossain (VC)
8. Sohag Gazi
9. Ziaur Rahman
10. Robiul Islam
11. Al Amin
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12-15: Enamul Haque Jr., Marshall Ayub, Rubel Hossain, Mahmudullah Riyad
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Old September 19, 2013, 04:48 AM
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ODIs:

1. Tamim Iqbal Khan
2. Anamul Haque
3. Shabbir Rahaman Roman
4. Shakib Al Hasan
5. Mushfiqur Rahim (C)
6. Nasir Hossain
7. Mahmudullah Riyad (VC)
8. Sohag Gazi
9. Mashrafe Mortaza
10. Abdur Razzak
11. Rubel Hossain
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12-14: Mominul Haque, Al Amin, Naeem Islam.
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Old September 19, 2013, 04:54 AM
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I would rather have 3 pace options for Tests (2 and a half rather, considering Zia as a part timer).

Note that, we can have Naeem, Mominul and Nasir to easily fill up the 3rd spinner spot and beyond. We need proper batting depth to win a Test as our bowling attack is not up to the mark.
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Old September 19, 2013, 05:10 AM
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Why Jahurul again? Why experiment with these fc bullies who are sissies in int level..Its not the end of the world if anamul opens..And jahirul will go in the first 20 balls guaranteed so anamul is pretty much an opener even at #3..
because even though jahurul hasn't scored big he's made a lot of 20-50 scores which have eaten up valuable balls. of course if that's all he has to offer it's not good enough in the long run, but maybe he is one big score away from being more consistent. in any event at this stage eating up a good amount of balls, making those 40 scores is quite valuable when you consider the alternative. why not play anamul as opener? because he's stated he prefer's #3, it's where he bats now in domestic cricket so it's where he feels comfortable and where he wants to be.

now i know anamul has only played 1 test match but in those 2 innings he played as opener and looked very shakie indeed, only managed 14 runs for the 2 innings and even more telling is the strike rate of 19.44.

i'm not saying anamul can't be successful as opener in test cricket but his favourite position is #3, that's where he's comfortable, it's where he wants to bat, it's where he bats and makes runs in domestic cricket. why not let him have a chance at #3 now that the spot has opened up?

i know he got another ton in the recent A series as opener, but that was a one-day match. he batted a bit all over the place in that series, sometimes at #3, sometimes opening and i think even at #5 once. i think in one-day cricket it doesn't matter so much, but in test cricket a players comfort and confidence in a certain position is more important than the shorter formats.

something to note with jahurul's test career to date, he's played 7 matches, only one of them has been in BD, we should probably give him one or two home series before discarding him.
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Old September 19, 2013, 05:15 AM
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I would rather have 3 pace options for Tests (2 and a half rather, considering Zia as a part timer).

Note that, we can have Naeem, Mominul and Nasir to easily fill up the 3rd spinner spot and beyond. We need proper batting depth to win a Test as our bowling attack is not up to the mark.
that certainly is an option to consider. i think it also depends on mindset and the plan going into the series/each match. if we plan on using spin heavily then we are going to want to take 3 spinners (2+shakib) because otherwise we will burn our spinners out, i think in that situation naeem/mominul/nasir won't be enough.
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Old September 19, 2013, 06:49 AM
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Tests:
Tamim
Anamul
Naeem
Shakib
Mominul
Mushfiq+*
Nasir
Zia
Gazi
Robiul
Al-Amin

Jahirul, Marshall, Razzak

ODIs:
Tamim
Anamul
Naeem
Shakib
Mushfiq+*
Nasir
Riyad
Gazi
Mashrafe
Razzak
Al-Amin

Shamsur, Mominul, Zia, Rubel
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Old September 19, 2013, 07:23 AM
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Nothing is more exciting than reading a bunch of list of players. Yayyyyyy!!!!

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Old September 19, 2013, 08:01 AM
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tests
1. tamim iqbal
2. anamul hoque
3. mominul haque
4. nayeem islam
5. sakib al hasan
6. musfiqur rahim
7. nasir hossain
8. shohag gazi
9. alamin hussain
10. enamul hoque
11. robiul islam

odi
1. tamim iqbal
2. anamul hoque
3. nayeem islam
4. sakib al hasan
5. musfiqur rahim
6. nasir hossain
7. mahmud riyad
8. shohag gazi
9. mashraf mortaza
10. abdur razzak
11. alamin hossain

t20
1. tamim iqbal
2. shamshur rahman
3. anamul hoque
4. sakib al hasan
5. nasir hossain
6. musfiqur rahim
7. sabbir rahman
8. mashraf mortaza
9. abdur razzak
10. enamul haque
11. rubel hossain

if the ashraful didnt do idiot job then he could have been number 3 spot in test matches...

i think he was doing good job there. Very sad for Bangladesh cricket...
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Old September 19, 2013, 08:06 AM
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Old September 19, 2013, 08:12 AM
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Old September 19, 2013, 08:19 AM
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agey bolo moulik schwaradhoni (not the cricketer dhoni! not the cricketer dhoni!) bolte ki bojho? bangla bhasay moulik schwaradhoni koyti?

scwarborno aaar banjonborner (not banjo!) moddhe parthokko nirnoy koro. udhahoron deu....

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Old September 19, 2013, 08:54 AM
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Old September 19, 2013, 08:56 AM
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agey bolo moulik schwaradhoni (not the cricketer dhoni! not the cricketer dhoni!) bolte ki bojho? bangla bhasay moulik schwaradhoni koyti?

scwarborno aaar banjonborner (not banjo!) moddhe parthokko nirnoy koro. udhahoron deu....

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Old September 19, 2013, 09:02 AM
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that certainly is an option to consider. i think it also depends on mindset and the plan going into the series/each match. if we plan on using spin heavily then we are going to want to take 3 spinners (2+shakib) because otherwise we will burn our spinners out, i think in that situation naeem/mominul/nasir won't be enough.

You do make a valid point but the problem is, we don't have a third spinner who has done well lately in International cricket. On the other hand, Zia has taken wickets in the last Test. Abdur Razzak may be an option, especially after a good run in the domestics but are we willing to give him another chance is a question worth asking.

Besides, for batting depth, Zia may be a good option (Although his International batting record is dismal and facepalm-worthy. But do not forget his late run in domestics with the bat.)
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Old September 19, 2013, 09:49 AM
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You do make a valid point but the problem is, we don't have a third spinner who has done well lately in International cricket. On the other hand, Zia has taken wickets in the last Test. Abdur Razzak may be an option, especially after a good run in the domestics but are we willing to give him another chance is a question worth asking.

Besides, for batting depth, Zia may be a good option (Although his International batting record is dismal and facepalm-worthy. But do not forget his late run in domestics with the bat.)
yeah true, i think in terms of recent performance you have to look to razzak but as you say are we willing to give him another chance? and you are right, zia has down well lately with ball in international cricket.
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When I put my squad together, I forgot that I ended up taking 4 pacers and basically just 2 opening batsmen. 4 pacers won't be needed since we are at home so we can just bring pacers in at anytime if one of them get injured. In that case, I'd take Zia out. Even though he did well in the 1 Test, Robiul, Al-Amin, and Rubel have all been better than him since then so he'd be the one out IMO.

If I'd have to pick another top order batsman, I'd pick Jahurul. I know he hasn't been in the best form as of late but last FC season, he did average a 50 which only Anamul and Tamim bettered. The likes of Shamsur, SN, Imrul, Junaid and Nafis Iqbal all averaged in the low 30s. He also did alright in his chances in Tests. So I'd pick Jahurul for the last man in for the 1st Test.
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Old September 19, 2013, 11:38 AM
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test squad :
1. tamim
2. anamul
3. M.ayub ( given his current form in the longer version)
4. mominul
5. sakib
6. mushy
7. nasir
8. gazi
9. enamul/razzak
10. rubel
11. robiul

*** riyad may come in place of mominul but should nt bat above nasir
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Old September 19, 2013, 11:45 AM
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Tests:

1. Tamim
2. Anamul
3. Naeem
4. Mominul (Southee pitch er moddhe jhari dile pant e hagish na re bhai)
5. Shakib
6. Mushfiq
7. Nasir
8. Razzak (one more chance, he is the boss after all)
9. Enam/Elias/Gazi (maybe Gazi for variation, but seems out of touch)
10. Robiul
11. Pasher barir pola Quddus (not to confuse with my nana mia Abdul Quddus Chowdhury, although he couldn't do much worse)

12. Riyad (if the top 7 can't do it, #8 won't, so drop his sorry buttocks until he can handle the heat of batting up the order)

^ With this team, we can finally dream of avoiding an inning defeat against the UAE second XI.

My ODI squad wouldn't be very different actually. We might finally tie a game with Ecuador.
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Old September 19, 2013, 12:49 PM
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Test

1 Tamim
2 Anamul
3 Nayeem
4 Mushy
5 Nasir
6 Shakib
7 Riyad
8 Gazi
9 Raj
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Tests:

1. Tamim
2. Anamul
3. Naeem
4. Mominul (Southee pitch er moddhe jhari dile pant e hagish na re bhai)
5. Shakib
6. Mushfiq
7. Nasir
8. Razzak (one more chance, he is the boss after all)
9. Enam/Elias/Gazi (maybe Gazi for variation, but seems out of touch)
10. Robiul
11. Pasher barir pola Quddus (not to confuse with my nana mia Abdul Quddus Chowdhury, although he couldn't do much worse)

12. Riyad (if the top 7 can't do it, #8 won't, so drop his sorry buttocks until he can handle the heat of batting up the order)

^ With this team, we can finally dream of avoiding an inning defeat against the UAE second XI.

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^^^ that's a winning team. I see NZ doing the conditioning camp for a year long in BD when they play against us next time!
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Old September 19, 2013, 01:54 PM
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Old September 19, 2013, 02:06 PM
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I think our selectors will go like this:
Tamim
Jahurul
Anamul
Naeem/Mominul
Shakib
Mushy
Nasir
Riyad
Gazi
Robiul
Rubel



Gazi and Shakib easily can do 60 over bowling in a day. Do we need 3spinner? To me par timer Riyad is a better option here.
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I think our selectors will go like this:
Tamim
Jahurul
Anamul
Naeem/Mominul
Shakib
Mushy
Nasir
Riyad
Gazi
Robiul
Rubel



Gazi and Shakib easily can do 60 over bowling in a day. Do we need 3spinner? To me par timer Riyad is a better option here.
you want shakib/gazi to bowl 30 overs everyday? they'll burn out quickly if they do that consistently. shakib/gazi with some part time from naeem or mominul or nasir is fine generally if you've got your 2 pacers bowling a few overs also but if you're gunning for your spinners and want them to do most of the work then having 3 is a good option.

let's use shakib's multiple abilities to our and his advantage. shakib being able to bat in the top 6 allows us to take another genuine bowler into a match. i don't like the current mindset of playing riyad at #8 in tests because it completely eliminates the advantage shakib gives us other other teams which is as i said allowing us to take an extra bowler into the match. that means our bowlers can stay fresher for longer which is an advantage over other teams, it also means we have more bowling options to choose from.

besides batting all the way down to #8 just sends the message to our batsman that they can be a little looser and care-free with their own batting and i think that's a bad message to send because it can create poor attitudes with the batsmen and generally bring bad habits into their games whether it be mental or from a technical standpoint.
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what the selectors do and what they should do usually are two different things. riyad being VC and basically guaranteed a test spot because of it, shahadat constantly being selected etc.

i think there are a couple of variations the selectors might go with. i think they could easily continue with jahurul but play naeem at #3 with mominul at #4 with anamul missing out.think of it this way, jahurul looks more solid than anamul from his short test career, naeem got a ton in his last test series batting at #4 but he's played at #3 in ODIs, he hit a ton against a strong england lions attack albeit it in a one-day match, he's got a great FC record averaging almost 40 with 10 tons, he's in good form as that A team ton was recent plus he scored a 50 and then a ton already in this edition of the DPL, he also (and this may be insignificant when it comes to test selection) is a handy off spinner.

there are a lot of positives there for selecting naeem and if they are to select him i only see two places to bat him and that's as #4 or as #3 and since mominul played in the last test series and did well and was the #4 i think it would be best to keep mominul at #4 and slot naeem in at #3.

it also comes down to where the selectors what to bat anamul. they might not be open to the idea of having him at #3, in which case the most likely top 4s will be tamim, anamul/jahurul, naeem, mominul. if they are open to anamul batting at 3 then the selection of the top 4 gets more complicated imo because that means both naeem and mominul will only be fighting for the #4 position and marshall might even be in the mix with them.

how open to positions the selectors are with naeem/mominul will also be a deciding factor because they may not be thinking at all to place naeem and/or mominul at #3 in which case i'd say there is a good chance of both jahurul and anamul playing.
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Old September 21, 2013, 04:10 AM
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What! No Mosaddek (flavour of the day) and Chockmock Sen (established player) in the squad!
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