Some people here just amaze me - what is all this talk of 'insulting' Pont by having Wasim as a consultant?
In any learning environment, the concept of having a 'guest' expert is perfectly normal. A somwhat off-topic example but back when I was doing my engineering degree, we would often have industry experts coming in as guest lecturers for a week or two even though we had highly qualified professors as regular lecturers!
While I do not completely agree with BCB's short-term adrenalin rush to excel at the world cup - when we clearly need quality coaches at the academy & age group levels - I believe even a two week stint with someone like Wasim, with all his skills & experience, can be of great help to our quicks. I would be absolutely surprised if I find someone as professional as Ian Pont would have an issue with it.
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Originally Posted by cricket_fanatic
Some people here just amaze me - what is all this talk of 'insulting' Pont by having Wasim as a consultant?
In any learning environment, the concept of having a 'guest' expert is perfectly normal. A somwhat off-topic example but back when I was doing my engineering degree, we would often have industry experts coming in as guest lecturers for a week or two even though we had highly qualified professors as regular lecturers!
While I do not completely agree with BCB's short-term adrenalin rush to excel at the world cup - when we clearly need quality coaches at the academy & age group levels - I believe even a two week stint with someone like Wasim, with all his skills & experience, can be of great help to our quicks. I would be absolutely surprised if I find someone as professional as Ian Pont would have an issue with it.
Originally Posted by cricket_fanatic
Some people here just amaze me - what is all this talk of 'insulting' Pont by having Wasim as a consultant?
In any learning environment, the concept of having a 'guest' expert is perfectly normal. A somwhat off-topic example but back when I was doing my engineering degree, we would often have industry experts coming in as guest lecturers for a week or two even though we had highly qualified professors as regular lecturers!
While I do not completely agree with BCB's short-term adrenalin rush to excel at the world cup - when we clearly need quality coaches at the academy & age group levels - I believe even a two week stint with someone like Wasim, with all his skills & experience, can be of great help to our quicks. I would be absolutely surprised if I find someone as professional as Ian Pont would have an issue with it.
Specifics Wasim could teach in addition to what Pont professes to focus on:
Wrist position and attenuation during point of release
Best means to identify what type of wear-n-tear will give the most reverse swing; he has said that he and Waqar would spend hours at practice trying out different balls to figure this out
Ball management skills - e.g. how to bounce the ball in off the pitch to scuff it up, how to preserve seam in legal manners
How to combat a batsman's trigger movements or tactics to combat swing (e.g. playing out of the crease or shuffling across to get closer to away swing).
While Ian focuses on core skills, and repeatability of action and other bio-mechanical aspects, I think Wasim adding these advanced level seminars does no harm if managed right.
why not?
this is Wasim Akram - finest fast bowler on earth, selected in the all time best 11 .... if our boys can get something out of him- that would be huge...we should take the chance!
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Originally Posted by Jadukor
it was also a result of all the media hype surrounding him... this guy never really had the pace to be compared to wasim akram... he was bowling in the 130s which was slower than what wasim used to bowl even when he was aging.... at the international level swing without the right pace isn't effective because slower pace allows the batsman adjust to the swing... U really need pace as a swing bowler just like Waqar or Steyn....which Irfan never had
This is incorrect. There have been many, I repeat many, medium pacers who were dominant. Botham, Hadlee, Kapil Dev, Alec Bedser, Maurice Tate, etc comes to mind. No, I have not forgotten the 70-mph destroyer, McGrath.
Then there is the group of bowlers who were real speedstars in younger days, but became more effective at older age by using accuracy, variations, swing, etc although their bowling speed was lower. Lillie, Roberts, Holding, Marshal, Imran, and many others fall in this group. Jeff Thompson was much faster than Dennis Lillie, but he was not as effective a wicket taker. He was more feared, probably because of the injury risks. Many protective gears have not been invented yet.
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He is a lefty and born genius. Don't know how much effective he can be in teaching our right handed pacers. Technique of gripping the ball with right hand may not be exactly the same as the left one.
Originally Posted by shuziburo
This is incorrect. There have been many, I repeat many, medium pacers who were dominant. Botham, Hadlee, Kapil Dev, Alec Bedser, Maurice Tate, etc comes to mind. No, I have not forgotten the 70-mph destroyer, McGrath.
Add Shaun Pollock in his last few years of cricket to that list aswell.
Ajira news.... Loita is just looking for some cheap popularity. If he was serious about development of cricket, he would have by now set a clear vision for the country's cricket and acted on it, by energizing the grass root cricket, i.e. school cricket, divisional, cricket, age level, HP including appointment of Full time coaches for age groups. He would have quashed the 'COO' move and make BCB more professional
As for national team, we need a spin bowling coach and an extra specialist batting coach. If loita were only interested in Development instead of cheap popularity!!!!! Jotoshob idiots!
We need to get rid of Loita and CO...it will be the first step towards development. !!
Originally Posted by BANFAN
If this is true; this will be the best ever decision of BCB, in terms of selecting coaching staff.
There is no conflict between Pont & wasim working together. While wasim is working with the national team players, pont can be engaged with Academy/Age group. But what wasim can give, pont cannot & similarly pont can do what wasim won't like to do.
Ok 1stly, Wasim is not selected as our bowling coach, nor he is replacing Pont as our bowling coach. And 2ndly you can not just ask Pont to look after the academy players after signing him up as your National team coach.
I think it is possible to have two coaches working side by side if the messages they give are the same. Wasim would have to fit into Pont's messages otherwise it is not consistent.
2nd thing is Pont is teaching the things Wasim use to bowl anyway. In his background he worked with developing players for the English Cricket Board. You have to know your subject to do that!
As a little lift for the squad just before the WC it might be useful for Wasim to come and do a lecture in what he used to do. If it makes some good things then that is good. Not to have him mess with our bowlers though.
Finally point is that Pont is employed to work with our national team. If the academy and age groups want him they should make a big deal for him to do that and develop the future of Bangladesh. He is appointed only for a few months and had to help the WC bowlers get better.
I think wasim is one of the greatest bowler in cricket history. But his coaching is a big question!!...look at KKR in IPL.... And having a full time coach...giving tips for 2 weeks is actually extra money on vacation for him..and for bangladesh it is waste of money
Originally Posted by roman
its not BS bro, I have also read about this, but i am being too lazy to get the source for you now
Where did you read about it? If this was true Bangladeshi newspapers would be all over this stuff, they don't miss out on this sort of stuff. It maybe true that maybe in a press conference some BCB official said we are trying to get a bowling consultant to come down, and we are talking to wasim akram to see if we get him. And from that who ever heard it took it out of proportion. Unless I see an actual article its all BS just like Ganguly news and Jhonty news.
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Originally Posted by bangladesh_sy
Where did you read about it? If this was true Bangladeshi newspapers would be all over this stuff, they don't miss out on this sort of stuff. It maybe true that maybe in a press conference some BCB official said we are trying to get a bowling consultant to come down, and we are talking to wasim akram to see if we get him. And from that who ever heard it took it out of proportion. Unless I see an actual article its all BS just like Ganguly news and Jhonty news.
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Bangladesh Cricket Board (BCB) and new Asian Cricket Council (ACC) president AHM Mustafa Kamal said that progress is possible for the country's sport within the next two years.
He was addressing a press conference yesterday after his return from Singapore where he was made the ACC chief in the association's annual general meeting on June 30.
Kamal said that the development was possible with the help of ACC and the International Cricket Council. Bangladesh supported the panel to elect Sharad Pawar as ICC president in the meeting last Friday.
The ACC president explained his two-year plan to develop the region's cricket. "ACC will arrange different tournaments with the participation countries like China, Nepal and Afghanistan," said Kamal. He also informed that former India captain Saurav Ganguly and South African great Jonty Rhodes have shown interest to work as advisors with the national team for two to three weeks.
BCB vice-presidents Ahmed Sajjadul Alam and Asaduzzaman Khasru and media committee chairman Jalal Yunus were also present on the occasion.
^yup exactly. there is differnce between espressing interest and actually coming. We fans made it into something huge out of nothing. Posted via BC Mobile Edition (iPhone)
Originally Posted by bangladesh_sy
^yup exactly. there is differnce between espressing interest and actually coming. We fans made it into something huge out of nothing. Posted via BC Mobile Edition (iPhone)
Wait though.... this was July 7th, not now. We are talking about this now...
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Originally Posted by roman He also informed that former India captain Saurav Ganguly and South African great Jonty Rhodes have shown interest to work as advisors with the national team for two to three weeks.
Now they all gonna show interest.
Quick bucks.
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