Match Thread: Bangladesh vs England, 2nd Test, at Dhaka (SBNS), 20-24 March 2010

[kalpurush]

Great ^^^article.
BCB should make sporting wicket soon if they want to keep Test status

[al-Sagar]

Originally Posted by Nafi
BD havent got many experienced reliable test bowlers.

Shahadat only performs once in a blue moon in tests. This guy get a 6-26 against south africa, then has horrible figures the next six tests, i.e 1-100, then bursts again with another fantastic spell, like his five wicket haul to bowl India out for ~250

Mortaza has been an okay test bowler, but he is not even match fit/available. And is only great in tests, when he is bowling at full pace (85-90mph) to make use of his ability to get movement off the seam.

Shafiul and Rubel are still very new and unexperienced

For the spinners, whom none are wrist spinners.

Razzak is not suitable for tests
Riyad and Naeem are actually part timers, and not even specialists, though they are getting better.
Shakib is our only reliable test bowler, and alongside being a premier batsmen and captain, the burden is huge amount.

Short term solutions for the bowling front, we just need one of the other all-rounder spinners to evolve from support roles to attacking roles, like Shakib had in recent times.

And for shahadat to bloody regain form, for mashrafe to regain fitness, and for a young seamer eg (shafiul/Rubel/robin) to gain confidence and have a breakthrough.

We also could use an amazing wrist spinner, but then again every country wants a reincarnation of Shane Warne. To be frank there isnt a test class wrist spinner playing for any test team atm.

just perfect.

dollar and robin are two more prospects but also unexperienced as shafiul and rubel. these 4 need somebody experienced like mashrafe or shahadat to spear head them. but shahadat is not upto the task. may be we need talha jubair back

[Rinathq]

I dunt know why some ppl want to take out Razzaq, Aftab, Imrul. This is a bad attitude by bengali fans that we want someone out immediately after one or two bad performance. Razzaq just returned to test and i think he should be given more time. Aftab has also returned 2 tests ago and we have seen that he is not so aggressive anymore. Siddons also said that he likes working with Aftab and thinks he is imroving. SO why not listen to our coach and let him work on Aftab.
I wouldn't change the team. Ash was never ever a test material. unlike Aftab he showed no imrpovement what so ever. 2 spinners are enough if they are good. We dunt need 5 spinners in the team. I dun remember a team becoming successful with soo many spinners. Sakib, Razzaq, Mahmudullah is good enough.
We are doing well now but not winning because u have played with poor teams all last year and thats why lacking something....But as we go to play our third test of the year, i feel pretty confident. Our team is always giving a fight.. keep going BD

[Tendulkar_Mcgrath]

Originally Posted by kalpurush
Thank you ...
Bangladesh have need for speed after a decade of slow progress

...
snipped
....

Critics claim Bangladesh should not be a Test nation, but with the right infrastructure they will develop the bowlers to compete

snipped ...

Beshi pump diley aabar BD player ra jaa kheley na!!...20 er beshi kingba 1 ta wicket er beshi paai e na!...

[Rifat]

Originally Posted by beshideshi
Bond brother, I am a huge Ashraful fan, but time has come for him to take a break, collect himself and get back to his usual self. Every player has these horrible patches, where runs look like something from planet mars and beyond reach. Shane Watson, Marcus North, Ravi Bopara, V. Solanki, G. Hick, S. Ganguly and almost everyone had these patches. I am sure Ash will bounce back, our top order really needs a full firing Ash.

+++++1

[Tanvir703]

Originally Posted by auntu
Will there be any change in the line up?

Like:

-Razzak OUT Enam IN
-Aftab OUT Jahir IN
-Shahadat OUT Shafiul IN.

Our best chance.

[beshideshi]

good on mushy http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesig...php?nid=130524

[RazabQ]

Originally Posted by Jaybaba
A good assessment of Bangladesh cricket: http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog...-slow-progress

Everyone understands the importance of domestic cricket infrastructure and sporting wickets. Only BCB does not seem to care.

Wow - we've managed to impress Duncan Fletcher! He's a deep thinker of the game and as curmudgeonly as they come!

[Holden]

Wow - we've managed to impress Duncan Fletcher! He's a deep thinker of the game and as curmudgeonly as they come!

Duncan Fletcher is a great all round coach, if Siddons leaves after 2011 World Cup (not that I particularly want him to leave), and we some how manage to get Fletcher as our head coach, he would be the guy who could take us to the next level.

[jisaan]

Originally Posted by Purna

Match Thread

Bangladesh vs. England
Second Test

Date: 20-24 March 2010
Time: 9:30 am
Venue: Mirpur Sher-e-Bangla National Stadium, Mirpur, Dhaka
Squad:----
1. Shakib-Al-Hasan (Captain)
2. Mushfiqur Rahim (Deputy Captain and Wicket Keeper)
3. Tamim Iqbal
4. Imrul Kayes
5. Junaed Sidiqui
6. Aftab Ahmed
7. Mahmudullah
8. Johurul Islam
9. Naeem Islam
10. Rubel Hossain
11. Shafiul Islam
12. Abdur Razzak
13. Enamaul Haque Junior
14. Shahadat Hossain

How come a lot of ppl are going for Shuvo? Is there any change? At least, i haven't heard of any
although i would like to send Raz, Imrul & Shahadat to rest
Get Raquibul, Shafiul & enamul in their place

[ammark]

Originally Posted by RazabQ
Wow - we've managed to impress Duncan Fletcher! He's a deep thinker of the game and as curmudgeonly as they come!

Echoing Jaybaba, here's to quote fletcher:

But the bedrock for future development is what is happening underneath Test cricket. I would want to visit and inspect Bangladesh's domestic set-up before passing judgment, but wherever you are in the world strong first‑class cricket is absolutely crucial for Test success. You can't pluck players from a weak domestic league and expect them to make a quick transition to the top level. This also takes time. Bangladesh have had 10 years to work on their domestic structure. England have had more than 100, and still not got it right.

[al-Sagar]

Originally Posted by jisaan
How come a lot of ppl are going for Shuvo? Is there any change? At least, i haven't heard of any
although i would like to send Raz, Imrul & Shahadat to rest
Get Raquibul, Shafiul & enamul in their place

u r right, no shuvo.

but how come u want raquibul, have u heard anything about him coming back ????

it is possible to call up shuvo any time if needed. but nor possible calling up raquibul in this short time. isnt it ???

[nahaz]

I suggest we do not pick Ashraful or Rakib till the England series...Rakib will not succeed in tests. In ODIs, he may come good. Ashraful should play in both. In tests, he's one of the most technically correct batsman, and a debut there will be too daunting for a batsman. By playing ODIs, he may jsut remember his last tour and grow in confidence. Remember how Ash always scores against the Lankans since his maiden test (century)..he's all about confidence and what's in his head.

I'd be disappointed if Jahurul isn't replacing Imrul. I'd be happy if aftab gets replaced by Faisal, but coach may think of that as inconsistent, so that won't happen. True that he hasn't got too many chances....

Shafiul must replace one of the pacers, preferably Shahadat. He cannot perform unless someone does sth wrong to him by his definition (eg Sehwag).

Razzak must be replaced..his 2nd innings wicketsd should not fool us...I really think Shuvo's the way to go. He can bat too...and he can prob take more wickets. He's a good sensible player...

[beshideshi]

http://www.cricinfo.com/bdeshveng201...ry/452366.html

Kevin Pietersen believes he is back to his best form after battling to overcome his technical deficiencies against left-arm spin, but he has nevertheless voiced his criticism of the Chittagong wicket that aided his recovery in the first Test against Bangladesh. Pietersen made 99 in England's first innings of the series and followed that up with a hard-hitting 32 from 24 balls, but feels that the surface on which the match was played was bad for spectators, and by extension, the five-day game as a whole.

The Bangladesh series clashes with the glitz and glamour of the Indian Premier League, to which Pietersen will flying as soon as the second Test is over to link up with the Bangalore Royal Challengers, and while he was full of praise for the spirit that Junaid Siddique and Mushfiqur Rahim showed in extending the Chittagong Test into the final afternoon, he questioned the entertainment value on offer in a match that England, to all intents and purposes, dominated from ball one.

"I don't think the conditions are good for Test match cricket," said Pietersen. "Everyone is talking about where Test cricket will be in five years' time, and I don't think wickets like that are conducive to people watching. On day five of a Test match, you expect some spin and something in the wicket, because you need wickets that will produce victories or results. I don't think the wicket was great in terms of entertainment, but in terms of English toughness it was good for our young bowling attack."

"Bangladesh were good," he said. "They fought hard in patches, especially on the last day, but with the way Test match cricket is going and the way people are talking negatively about it now, as a Test match cricket lover [I am concerned]. If we had played India on that pitch, it would have been 700 plays 700 plays 100 for 1. It's not good for Test match cricket, because I want Test match cricket to survive for as long as possible. It tests every individual and toughens you up."

Pietersen's criticisms were echoed by one of his chief tormentors of the tour, the left-arm spinner Abdur Razzak, who felt that his team had been let down by the Chittagong wicket after packing their side with four spinners in a bid to exploit the turn that they had anticipated from the surface. "The Chittagong wicket was not very spin-friendly," said Razzak. "Nothing happened for the first two days. The ball just went straight when we bowled in the first innings, and though there was some bounce, it's useless without turn."

The net result, however, was a timely return to form for Pietersen, who has had to drag his game out of the doldrums after a desperate run of form which, he claimed, was triggered by a technical fault that crept into his game during the tour of South Africa in December and January. Following scores of 40 and 81 at Centurion - his first Test since undergoing Achilles surgery in the summer - Pietersen managed 56 runs in his next five innings of the series, and said that by the end of the tour "I didn't know where I was and what I was doing".

"It was strange," said Pietersen. "I felt in good nick after the Twenty20 in Centurion [his comeback match], but then something went wrong in the third and fourth Test matches. I looked at a lot of footage, and compared it to some footage from before, and I realised I had made some technical errors, and I wasn't playing the way I used to. But I've sorted that out now, and I feel a different player."

The root of Pietersen's problem had been in his trigger movement at the crease, which involves an exaggerated knee-bend at the point of delivery. "If you lose your technique, the more your head goes," he said. "I don't want to jinx [my recovery], but I honestly do feel really, really good about my game at the moment. It's a nice place to be compared to ten days ago when I needed something to click, and something to work on, which I love doing. Yeah, I feel good now."

"There was a little thing I needed to work on, technique-wise, against the left-arm spinners, but then spending two or three hours at the crease [at Chittagong] was important as well, because when you're going through a tough time you often think: 'wow, how do I get to 20, 30, 50 ...' So to get to 99 and 30-odd off 20, by when I was hitting a lot of my areas I used to hit - midwicket off the spinner, and hitting over the top - I'm pretty happy."

As a by-product of all the thought that Pietersen has had to put into his technique against spin, he has rediscovered an urge to work on his own offspin - the facet of his game that first earned him the chance to play first-class cricket for Natal. "I think I can get a lot more wickets bowling to left-handers," he said, "with some that turn, and some that don't turn.

"A lot of the decisions I have got in my career have been down to my bounce and pace, and the uncertainty of where it is going, so I think I can get quite a few wickets. I'm looking to bowl more, and I've actually spoken to Cookie about it and I keep saying to him: 'get me on here.'"

He might well be called upon to perform with the ball in Dhaka if the wicket is anything like as slow and low as the Chittagong surface, but whatever happens, Pietersen is adamant that England must finish the series with focus and determination - two traits that have often deserted them towards the back-end of lengthy tours.

"The key to this week is finishing the tour well and concentrating on the Test match," he said. "What matters is winning the series, because we often don't finish tours the way that we would like, we sort of veer off at the end of a series because we want to get home, because we travel so much. The key to the team this week is to really make sure we grind it out here and get a good victory for Cooky [Alastair Cook], because he's done a great job on the field and off the field. We want to serve up a good victory for the chef."

[beshideshi]

^^ I have serious problems when Aus/Eng/SAF players cry about low and slow pitches in the sub continent, we don't go to tours and complain how the pitches over there are not suitable. Every home team has the right to try and use it's strength and exploiting opponent's weakness. If slow and low pitches put them in trouble, so be it.

[magic boy]

Our last test match at home in this year 2010?

[al-Sagar]

Originally Posted by magic boy
Our last test match at home in this year 2010?

we expect a trip of NZ at the end of the year

[auntu]

Originally Posted by Jaybaba
A good assessment of Bangladesh cricket: http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog...-slow-progress

Everyone understands the importance of domestic cricket infrastructure and sporting wickets. Only BCB does not seem to care.

The link is not working.

[al-Sagar]

Originally Posted by offstump
we expect a trip of NZ at the end of the year

followed by zimbabwe, but they wont play tests

[Miraz]

Originally Posted by auntu
The link is not working.

Try this one
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog...-slow-progress

[auntu]

Originally Posted by Miraz
Try this one
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog...-slow-progress

Thanks Miraz bhai.

[AK420]

My team:

Tamim Iqbal
Jahurul
Zunaid
Aftab(SN or Ash would be better)
Mahmudullah
Shakib
Mushfiqur
Shuvo
Shafiul
Enamul
Razzaq

[auntu]

Originally Posted by magic boy
Our last test match at home in this year 2010?

Is it?

We are going to host NZ in Oct'10. Also we will host ZIM in Dec'10 for 2 tests and 5 ODIs.

Link:

[magic boy]

Originally Posted by offstump
we expect a trip of NZ at the end of the year

Originally Posted by auntu
Is it?

We are going to host NZ in Oct'10. Also we will host ZIM in Dec'10 for 2 tests and 5 ODIs.

Link:

[Miraz]

Originally Posted by Chinmay in guradian blog
All Bangladesh has to do is prepare rank turners at home; get in their spin bowlers, condition their batsmen to play spin properly, and soon they will be able to have a decent home record (and end all this talk about them not been good enough to play test cricket)

Plain and simple. Only if our administrators were this smart in thinking.