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Old February 2, 2010, 02:42 PM
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Currently, we have two Schroedinger's cat in the squad. I shudder thinking what would happen if both cat's are dead.
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Old February 2, 2010, 02:46 PM
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ok team though i wanted Razzaq to play and also Junaid but other than that its a gud team. Glad Aftab made it!!
Who wants to bet? BD is going to win this game!
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Old February 2, 2010, 02:56 PM
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our selector loves to give surprises, thats nothing new

they try to convert test player into 20/20 and 20/20 player into test

they did it before and they are doing it again
before we have seen javed omar belim, mehrab jr in 20/20
now rokibul and shahadat there, mashallah--they prepared for another disaster.

Imrul kayes is the highest run maker in 20/20 DPL, why dropping him? if not kayes, they should select junaed

razzaq should have been there instead of shahadat

line up should have been

tamim
kayes
aftab
ashraful
sakib
mahmudullah
naeem
mushfiq
razzaq
shafiul
najmul
I think you are mixing things up... for T20, Tamim Iqbal was the highest scorer with an average of 58.4 (strike rate 183.64) and Alok Kapali was the highest Wicket Taker. Imrul was the highest scorer for DPL-ODIs but highest average was by Shahrier Nafees. Kayes will not last more than few balls against Kiwi attack and he is the weakest link batsman in the squad next to Raqibul.
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Old February 2, 2010, 02:59 PM
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ok team though i wanted Razzaq to play and also Junaid but other than that its a gud team. Glad Aftab made it!!
Who wants to bet? BD is going to win this game!
I'll wager Ashraful and Aftab wont cross 50 between them. Wait, make that 30. Even if we win, it would not be due to the heroics of any one man, least of all some mentally challenged deadwood.
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Old February 2, 2010, 02:59 PM
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I don’t understand why people are opposing ROK’s inclusion in T20. I actually believe that in any form of game, we need batsmen like Mushi and Rok who have the temperament to play under pressure with ease and without panicking. Sometimes it is possible that, in T20, any team can lose 4-5 wickets in quick succession (4-5 overs). In that situation, someone like Rok or Mushi is ideal to play out 20 overs.
Yes, Rok is not getting runs recently, but his temperament is second to none in the squad in any form of game. And I do not believe the notion that T20 is all about boom boom.
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Old February 2, 2010, 03:00 PM
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Its not that we are talking about Abdur Razzak... its our Razzak who is kind of still trying to recover his old form. We don't know which form he will show up.
In t20 just look at the scorecards.... good bowlers are periodically get hammered days in and days out.... there are few expections, but they are fewer even in the good teams.
I am saying it again....T20 is won and lost by batsman not by bowlers (except few rare exceptions).
yes Rokibul doesn't fit into theT20 mode. But one Rokibul/Imrul here and another Razzak/Shahadat there will not make any difference unless our top batsman score some runs with healthy SR. As someone already mentioned, when top 4 set the satge...Naeem/Riyad/Rahim/Shahadat/Saiful will be finishing the job without any contribution from Rokibul.
The real qeuestion is, can our top 4 set us the innings with some decent runs with healthy SR for Naeem and Co. to set a challenging total? if they (top 4) cannot do that its pointless to even talk what if Razzak was there or what if Saiful was not there etc. You bring Razzak, mashrafee, (you name it), every body will get hammered. The way you win it in T20 is hammering more than the opponent.
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Old February 2, 2010, 03:13 PM
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I don’t understand why people are opposing ROK’s inclusion in T20. I actually believe that in any form of game, we need batsmen like Mushi and Rok who have the temperament to play under pressure with ease and without panicking. Sometimes it is possible that, in T20, any team can lose 4-5 wickets in quick succession (4-5 overs). In that situation, someone like Rok or Mushi is ideal to play out 20 overs.
Yes, Rok is not getting runs recently, but his temperament is second to none in the squad in any form of game. And I do not believe the notion that T20 is all about boom boom.
Certified by whom????

Why would you think ROk has a better mental fortification than average BD batter? He may be slow, he may play less risky shots, but he still gets out to harmless balls, trying to do things that he shouldn't be doing. Have you not seen him bat in Mirpur? He played 44 balls, and not once did he middle. I may hate Aftab's gut, but even he ain't that bad. And you know what, he got out the exact same way aftab would have, fishing around offstump with no mindset whatsoever. Only, aftab would have scored some more runs. It is runs that matter, is it not?
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Old February 2, 2010, 03:22 PM
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That is my opinion and does not require certification. However, you may disagree.
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Old February 2, 2010, 03:35 PM
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Maybe we can have Rok and Mushy open, bat for 15 overs where we'll be 37/0 and then they can both be hit wicket and let Aftab and Naeem come in the last 5 overs and score 36x5=180 and give our bowlers a chance to defend 217. Thats a pretty good T20 score right? Maybe BCB and Siddons know what they are doing.
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Old February 2, 2010, 03:39 PM
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That is my opinion and does not require certification. However, you may disagree.
Thanks for clarifying. I'm not gonna tell you're wrong.I respect your intelligence and I expect you to find that out yourself.
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Only bowler capable of maintaining a decent Econ. rate is Shakib and maybe Nazmul but he is returning from injury which means that if the NZ batsmen have their heads screwed on we are screwed. Ridiculous how Razzak can be left out.
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Old February 2, 2010, 04:05 PM
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To me 20/20 is a 120 balls game

that means approximately 11 balls per batsman

any wasting balls can be recovered in odi but 20/20 there is no time to recover, in a second u r out of the game
rokibul is neverbeen 20/20 player
even in pcl no one will take him

but sad news: in bd team we have rokibul and previously JO golla and mehrab jr played.

I understand just for only one match we can't have ideal 20 20 team
but in his place why not taking kayes who was highest run maker in Dpl 20 20?
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Old February 2, 2010, 04:29 PM
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To me 20/20 is a 120 balls game

that means approximately 11 balls per batsman

any wasting balls can be recovered in odi but 20/20 there is no time to recover, in a second u r out of the game
rokibul is neverbeen 20/20 player
even in pcl no one will take him

but sad news: in bd team we have rokibul and previously JO golla and mehrab jr played.

I understand just for only one match we can't have ideal 20 20 team
but in his place why not taking kayes who was highest run maker in Dpl 20 20?
You want Shahadat, Rubel, Shafiul to face 11 balls each? May be you would want to recalculate the balls faced. I hope our best batsmen face the highest number of balls.
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Certainly Rokibul is not a T20 player and he is out of form. But replacing one person wouldn't win you games unless that person is Bravo, Pollard, Gayle, Gilchirst etc. We don't have those players. Zunaid can be a better replacement but not because of the heavy bat but as a slip catcher.

May be audition for ODIs. That is BD mgmt is targeting. The coach however wants to win everything.
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Haha you lot are making rokibul into a villian!!! I mean its not his fault he's soo
Blame the selectors....
Anyway its rajb's inclusion im worried about
He might have had a good test against india, but remember what happened in the first test first session?
Rajib needs a few overs to get it right in terms of line and length and pace, and in T20 there is no time to settle down for bowler, (or batsman)
I definately would have liked to see Razzaq for Rajib
and Alok for Rakib, OR a debutant like milon or forhad hossain
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To me 20/20 is a 120 balls game

that means approximately 11 balls per batsman

any wasting balls can be recovered in odi but 20/20 there is no time to recover, in a second u r out of the game
rokibul is neverbeen 20/20 player
even in pcl no one will take him

but sad news: in bd team we have rokibul and previously JO golla and mehrab jr played.

I understand just for only one match we can't have ideal 20 20 team
but in his place why not taking kayes who was highest run maker in Dpl 20 20?
T20 is roughly 11 balls per batsman? U see t that way??
IF each player faced 11 balls then even 120 (run a ball) wont be a bad score, because that would be expectng 33 runs from number 9, 10 and jack!
lol

Its the top and middle order who should face most deliveries and the lower middle order, aka naeem and riyad, to finish thigs off
we should not rely on rajib nazmul and shafiul to face a single delivery
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Old February 2, 2010, 04:42 PM
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I think in a perfect condition bd 20/20 team shoul be

tamim
shahriar nafees
aftab
kapali
ashraful
sakib
naeem
mithun Ali
razzaq
rasel
najmul

extra- mashrafe, milon,ziaur Rahman, najmus sadat
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T20 is roughly 11 balls per batsman? U see t that way??
IF each player faced 11 balls then even 120 (run a ball) wont be a bad score, because that would be expectng 33 runs from number 9, 10 and jack!
lol

Its the top and middle order who should face most deliveries and the lower middle order, aka naeem and riyad, to finish thigs off
we should not rely on rajib nazmul and shafiul to face a single delivery
Of course. U can't expect full contribution from lower order but our top order fails in regular basis. Making run is more imp than staying in the crease and wasting balls

I am not saying just play 11 balls and get out
what I am saying even if u play only 11 balls make perfect use of it

and if we can survive all 20 overs we can have a good score card as well
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Old February 2, 2010, 04:58 PM
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In a perfect world with the players in perfect form, it could be

Tamim
Mithun Ali
Atfab
Ashraful
Dickens
Sakib
Naeem
Rafiq
Razzak
Mashrafee
Taposh Bhaisob

....but then the world is not perfect and the players are not in perfect form and therefore my team is not perfect.
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In a perfect world with the players in perfect form, it could be

Tamim
Mithun Ali
Atfab
Ashraful
Dickens
Sakib
Naeem
Rafiq
Razzak
Mashrafee
Taposh Bhaisob

....but then the world is not perfect and the players are not in perfect form and therefore my team is not perfect.
In a perfect world, the team would be as such:

1. Ice Man
2. Ice Man
3. Ice Man
4. Ice Man
5. Ice Man
6. Ice Man
7. Ice Man
8. Ice Man
9. Ice Man
10. Ice Man
11. Ice Man

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Tamim , shakib and naeem will do the job

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Old February 2, 2010, 05:02 PM
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In a perfect world, the team would be as such:

1. Ice Man
2. Ice Man
3. Ice Man
4. Ice Man
5. Ice Man
6. Ice Man not need 11 ice man , if you have 4 or 5 shakib on your team , your team is probably the best in the world
7. Ice Man
8. Ice Man
9. Ice Man
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11. Ice Man

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Old February 2, 2010, 05:03 PM
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Rocky is JS's favourite. he will never drop him, you guys should know that by now, even JS knows that Rocky is not a 20/20 player. Kapali would have done better than him, at least, he can bat, bowl and field, take catches, whereas Rocky drops simple catches.
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I wonder why we fail in 2020

our players always in the mood for 2020
even in test matches

then why why why
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Old February 2, 2010, 05:09 PM
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I wonder why we fail in 2020

our players always in the mood for 2020
even in test matches

then why why why
I believe because "Khali matde goal deya shohoj".

BD use T20 stratgey in TEST and opponent let us have the fun as they know it will give them quick result.

But when its time to implement T20 startegy in T20, they squize that opportunity and thats why we fail in T20.
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Old February 2, 2010, 05:21 PM
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We fail because we don't understand T20.

Our batsmen/coach don't understand the basics.

A missed slog < a single
Taking singles and 1 four in an over gets you 9 or a score of 180
Dropped catches and stumpings in T20 are in most cases irrecoverable
Our players like to premeditate shots and they are usually the slog or a deadpan block
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