West Indies High Performance Team's Tour of Bangladesh, Sep/Oct 2012 - Page 6

Nadim · #**126** October 4, 2012, 03:56 AM

Gd stuff nayeem. Well supported by shabbir and reza

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Equinox · #**127** October 4, 2012, 04:08 AM

Naeem > Riyad

Gowza · #**128** October 4, 2012, 04:21 AM

naeem is a strange character, at times he's shown how good of a boundary hitter he can be and how quickly he can score runs, and he's also shown he can stay at the wicket but he can't or doesn't always do it in the right situations.

BengaliPagol · #**129** October 4, 2012, 05:31 AM

I always thought Naeem is a handy player. At times he is capable. But he has to work on scoring and not getting bogged down in tests. I love his bowling action.

shivfan · #**130** October 4, 2012, 05:44 AM

Match abandoned...rain.

Gowza · #**131** October 4, 2012, 06:19 AM

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I always thought Naeem is a handy player. At times he is capable. But he has to work on scoring and not getting bogged down in tests. I love his bowling action.

From the first time I saw him bat and bowl I always thought he had really good potential with both, batting wise he has different gears but needs to be able to use the right gear for the right situation. For bowling, I don't think he did much before he got to the national team but he's doing well with his offies.

Tiger Manc · #**132** October 4, 2012, 06:22 AM

I really can't understand why Sohag Gazi hasn't been playing in any of the matches and how Nazmul Islam manages to play ahead of Arafat Sunny, Sanjamul, Shaker, Sajib and Shuvo.

M.H.Rubel · #**133** October 4, 2012, 07:18 AM

So it was a poor batting by our boys......
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engin...ch/582006.html

Tiger444 · #**134** October 4, 2012, 08:10 AM

Good to see Naeem playing consistently. Akram Khan also pointed him out the other day on his performances. So no doubt he's close to a come back.

The problem I have with him is that he's another Riyad type player. Both are part time bowlers who would not make it in the team solely on their bowling skills, both are very suspect against the new ball which is why their not good options in the top 4, both take a while to get settled in before they're settled in, and both have had multiple chances but have not really flourished. I don't want to hear the excuse that Naeem batted too low either, so did Nasir but he consistently performed which is why team management forced him up the order. So Naeem doesn't really offer much on the table in my opinion.

That being said, we still rely on Shakib and Tamim so much and besides Nasir, nobody else have really stood up and raised their hands. So the key is for Naeem, if he comes in for the WI tour, is to play consistently and prove he can take his game to the next level. If he can do that, then that would be a great outcome for us.

Gowza · #**135** October 4, 2012, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Tiger444
Good to see Naeem playing consistently. Akram Khan also pointed him out the other day on his performances. So no doubt he's close to a come back.

The problem I have with him is that he's another Riyad type player. Both are part time bowlers who would not make it in the team solely on their bowling skills, both are very suspect against the new ball which is why their not good options in the top 4, both take a while to get settled in before they're settled in, and both have had multiple chances but have not really flourished. I don't want to hear the excuse that Naeem batted too low either, so did Nasir but he consistently performed which is why team management forced him up the order. So Naeem doesn't really offer much on the table in my opinion.

That being said, we still rely on Shakib and Tamim so much and besides Nasir, nobody else have really stood up and raised their hands. So the key is for Naeem, if he comes in for the WI tour, is to play consistently and prove he can take his game to the next level. If he can do that, then that would be a great outcome for us.

Agree. He has one of the best FC records out of BD batsmen so hopefully if he gets the chance he can translate that to test match cricket.

Habib · #**136** October 4, 2012, 10:22 AM

I don't rate Naeem's bowling much. His ball just doesn't spin at all. Although on sluggish pitches like ours, it's OK.

Tiger444 · #**137** October 4, 2012, 09:54 PM

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I don't rate Naeem's bowling much. His ball just doesn't spin at all. Although on sluggish pitches like ours, it's OK.

Naeem, Riyad, and Nasir are all part time spinners at best. All aren't good enough to bowl long spells. That's why it was a mistake not to try Sohag in this A team series. We should try to have more variety in our attack and not just depend on SLA's and part time offies.

reyme · #**138** October 4, 2012, 10:55 PM

How come Shohag Gazi and Al Amin could not get a single game remains a mystery!

Jadukor · #**139** October 4, 2012, 11:00 PM

It's sad to see we have no one besides these proven failures like Naeem, Rock, Junaid, Ashraful etc. The standard of our bench is shocking both in terms of batting and bowling.

Saifulsohel · #**140** October 4, 2012, 11:38 PM

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How come Shohag Gazi and Al Amin could not get a single game remains a mystery!

al amin is nowhere!

MohammedC · #**141** October 5, 2012, 01:53 AM

Date : 05/10/2012 M. Started : 12:31 PM
Venue : Sher-e-Bangla National Cricket Stadium, Dhaka

Toss won by : Bangladesh A and chose to field first.
Captains : Abul Hasan (BD-A), Andre Fletcher (WIHPT)

West Indies HP Team 26/1(3.5 ov)
vs Bangladesh A

http://digicricket.marssil.com/match...op=1&match=301

Nadim · #**142** October 5, 2012, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by MohammedC
Date : 05/10/2012 M. Started : 12:31 PM
Venue : Sher-e-Bangla National Cricket Stadium, Dhaka

Toss won by : Bangladesh A and chose to field first.
Captains : Abul Hasan (BD-A), Andre Fletcher (WIHPT)

West Indies HP Team 26/1(3.5 ov)
vs Bangladesh A

http://digicricket.marssil.com/match...op=1&match=301

that's probably wrong. They also Put Abul as a wk

Nayeem is the captain I think

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Nadim · #**143** October 5, 2012, 03:00 AM

the target is 106... should win

shivfan · #**144** October 5, 2012, 04:16 AM

Hope made 30, but another disappointing batting performance by the HPC....

Tiger Manc · #**145** October 5, 2012, 05:10 AM

Bangladesh A won by 4 wickets. Really disappointed with Anamul's form he may have blown his chance to debut against the West Indies in November.

BanCricFan · #**146** October 5, 2012, 08:11 AM

Way too early for Anamul to be introduced in the full colours. But, he could be part of the squad tho. Just for grooming only.

Naeem...is a nothing batsman. And, i dont think one or two good innings against a HP side changes that fact. He needs to learn the basics of batting first at the NCL level for a year or two. I had the misfortune of watching him live at the Oval in London. He was embarressingly poor!

Abul could be a genuine prospect for us. He has pace, bounce and aggression...what all the fast bowlers need. He is still very young in terms of grasping the art of fast bowling (which isnt an easy task). This boy could regularly bowl into the early 140Ks in time. Usually fast bowlers and the leggies need time to master their arts. It is quite amusing to read some of the comments here about Abul -as if tho BD is teeming with Waqars, Wasims and Marshalls. Get a grip guys!

BANFAN · #**147** October 5, 2012, 08:25 AM

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Bangladesh A won by 4 wickets. Really disappointed with Anamul's form he may have blown his chance to debut against the West Indies in November.

What do you mean by form?? He has to first show his ability in T20 and then you can say lack of form for a poor performance... Except in BPL I haven't seen him doing anything in T20s... He needs to prove him worth first, beyond U19 level... Till now he is highly over rated by everyone in BD.

Tiger444 · #**148** October 5, 2012, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BanCricFan
Way too early for Anamul to be introduced in the full colours. But, he could be part of the squad tho. Just for grooming only.

Naeem...is a nothing batsman. And, i dont think one or two good innings against a HP side changes that fact. He needs to learn the basics of batting first at the NCL level for a year or two. I had the misfortune of watching him live at the Oval in London. He was embarressingly poor!

Abul could be a genuine prospect for us. He has pace, bounce and aggression...what all the fast bowlers need. He is still very young in terms of grasping the art of fast bowling (which isnt an easy task). This boy could regularly bowl into the early 140Ks in time. Usually fast bowlers and the leggies need time to master their arts. It is quite amusing to read some of the comments here about Abul -as if tho BD is teeming with Waqars, Wasims and Marshalls. Get a grip guys!

I'd also bring Anamul in to the team but for grooming purposes only. I wouldn't throw him in to the national team matches yet, still seems he's not quite ready yet.

And I agree with Naeem. I'd rather have Mominul in the squad than Naeem. We already know what Naeem has to offer for the team. Since Mominul's been 1 of our best A team batsmen, why not give him a go and see what he has to offer?

Also agree with Abul. He seems like a good prospect but clearly has a ways to go before he's ready to perform in the national team. Let him play Academy/A team matches and in the mean time bring Nazmul in.

BANFAN · #**149** October 5, 2012, 10:26 AM

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I'd also bring Anamul in to the team but for grooming purposes only. I wouldn't throw him in to the national team matches yet, still seems he's not quite ready yet.

Very funny... Bring him in the team for grooming?? I thought you need to groom a player before bringing him in the team..

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And I agree with Naeem. I'd rather have Mominul in the squad than Naeem. We already know what Naeem has to offer for the team. Since Mominul's been 1 of our best A team batsmen, why not give him a go and see what he has to offer?

Was Mominul's performance something outstanding type?? It was average performance and against the top teams he will perform bellow average.. So he doesn't look any better than Nayeem type players... Why to bring him in then??

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Originally Posted by Tiger444
Also agree with Abul. He seems like a good prospect but clearly has a ways to go before he's ready to perform in the national team. Let him play Academy/A team matches and in the mean time bring Nazmul in.

How is Abul different than Shahadat? If those can be considered promising then what's the fault with Shahadat? He has pace and aggression too. Additionally Abul is extremely lazy for his age. How does he look promising I don't understand, of Shahadat wasn't promising!!

We people are too much into bring in and drop him attitude. We shouldn't even talk about this unless the guy is outstanding with his performances. It's always better to continue with the current lot until we have that outstanding one. Chopping and changing will only make us more unstable..IMO

Tiger444 · #**150** October 5, 2012, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BANFAN
Very funny... Bring him in the team for grooming?? I thought you need to groom a player before bringing him in the team..

Was Mominul's performance something outstanding type?? It was average performance and against the top teams he will perform bellow average.. So he doesn't look any better than Nayeem type players... Why to bring him in then??

How is Abul different than Shahadat? If those can be considered promising then what's the fault with Shahadat? He has pace and aggression too. Additionally Abul is extremely lazy for his age. How does he look promising I don't understand, of Shahadat wasn't promising!!

We people are too much into bring in and drop him attitude. We shouldn't even talk about this unless the guy is outstanding with his performances. It's always better to continue with the current lot until we have that outstanding one. Chopping and changing will only make us more unstable..IMO

Very funny? What's very funny to you about my suggestion of bringing him in. Seriously this is the last time I'm ever responding to you. Why do you feel the need to always bring people down to prove your point? You've done it to me and to others and it's really uncalled for and immature.