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[Vua]

Hello.

I am really struggling to keep on top of who comes to our squad or who gets dropped and never to be heard of again.

So, without much ado, I am walking back towards last 5 years to find the missing players. Please bear with me as it will take some time


Permanent players in National team

Tamim
Anamul
Mominul
Shakib
Mushy
Mashrafe



Players who are in and out
Regulars
Shamsur
Nasir
Mahmudullah
Farhad Reza
Zia
Nazmul
Rubel
Shafiul
Abul Hasan
Al-Amin
Razzak
Sohag Gazi
Arafat Sunny
Sabbir Rahman

Irregulars who were selected in last 5 years
Robiul
Shuvagata
Sajedul Islam
Mithun Ali
Naeem
Shahriar Nafees
Mahbubul Alam
Dollar Mahmud
Enamul Jnr
Imrul
Raqibul



Players who are never coming back

Ashraful
Shahadat
Mehrab Jnr
Zunaid
Jahurul
Nazimuddin
Shuvo
Alok Kapali
Marshall Ayub
Aftab
Syed Rasel
Faisal Hossain

*Zia opened batting on 3 November 2013
*Nafees played in national team last year

[Rana Melb]

Razzak is the prime contender for the Out list.

[naim519]

INCINERATOR WORTHY: The 4 Musketeers- Razzak, Riyad, Reza, Rubel

OUT: Tamim, Gazi, Nasir

[Gowza]

raqibul and robin i don't believe ever came back after being dropped, maybe mistaken. mehrab had a very short return as has enamul jr. imrul didn't really come back until recently, junaid on the other hand has been very in and out. nazmul is either injured or not in favour with selectors that's why he's never around but rubel is pretty much always there unless injured (a bit in and out in tests but still mostly there).

[MHRAM]

Time to dumb Rubel, Riad and Razzak for good.

And players like Tamim need to be given warning

[jeesh]

Certain individuals need to be chopped. But vast majority even if they are under performing can always make a return if they are motivated and in the right mindset.

Two things could make a big change. A new captain, and new coach.

Clearly the players are no longer firing under Mushfiq. Shoulders have dropped, catches are being missed. Situation seems out of control. And on top of that his poor thinking and tactics. Maybe players no longer have faith or belief in him

As every day goes, i also doubt SJ. Look how well Paul Farbrace has hit the ground running with Sri Lanka. Absolutely in control. In fact they look even sharper than what they were under Graham Ford.

[Vua]

My question is what happened to all these 23 dropped players and why were they dropped ?

Enamul Jnr
Mehrab Jnr
Imrul
Zunaid
Raqibul
Jahurul
Nazimuddin

Shuvo
Naeem
Alok Kapali
Marshall Ayub
Shahriar Nafees
Aftab

Mahbubul Alam
Nazmul
Syed Rasel
Dollar Mahmud
Robiul
Abul Hasan

Faisal Hossain
Shuvagata
Sajedul Islam
Mithun Ali

[Hasan2k8]

Razzak, Reza, Shafiul, Shahdat. Never to return again.
Al Amin is already better than Shafiul and Shahdat and Rubel. He is showing such maturity, hard work, ability under pressure at the death overs againts some real powerful teams - which, Shahdat Shafiul never ever have done despite having played for so long in the team.

Defo. Enough is enough with: Razzak, Shafiul, Shahadat. Never to return in no format. AMEEN!!!

[revolver]

Send shafiul to Afghanistan, he can practice his butterfly ball there. And kick the bolod Reza out aswell

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[Gowza]

Originally Posted by Vua
My question is what happened to all these 23 dropped players and why were they dropped ?

Enamul Jnr
Mehrab Jnr
Imrul
Zunaid
Raqibul
Jahurul
Nazimuddin

Shuvo
Naeem
Alok Kapali
Marshall Ayub
Shahriar Nafees
Aftab

Mahbubul Alam
Nazmul
Syed Rasel
Dollar Mahmud
Robiul
Abul Hasan

Faisal Hossain
Shuvagata
Sajedul Islam
Mithun Ali

they were dropped because they were no good, the only exceptions really are nazmul and shuvagata. has robiul been dropped? he's more of a test specialist which is why i don't think we've seen him lately as we've been playing shorter formats.

this isn't to say they've got no potential and can't comeback but they weren't ready. the reason i say nazmul are exceptions is because nazmul has done a fine job when given chances and shuvagata although not setting the world alight was still pretty decent but just didn't get anymore chances. pretty much everyone else on there were given plenty of chances and the ones that weren't looked completely horrible and not good enough.

[Vua]

I have gone through these 23 on and off players and have moved anyone with an average less than 20 or not a wicket taker to the Incinerator.
My concern is with these players who performed well but have since been cast aside :

Enamul Jnr Has taken 44 wickets in 15 Tests !
Imrul 28.6 avg in ODIs
Raqibul 27.8 avg in ODIs
Naeem 27 avg in ODIs
Shahriar Nafees 31.44 avg in ODIs
Mahbubul Alam 40.50 avg in ODIs - needs to be given an extended run
Dollar Mahmud needs to be given an extended run
Robiul Has taken 23 wickets in 8 tests !
Shuvagata 35 avg in ODIs !
Sajedul Islam needs to be given an extended run
Mithun Ali only one T20 ? needs to be given an extended run


I think BCB needs to bring back Mahbubul, Dollar, Sajedul and Mithun and give them a whole series to show their worth. Furthermore, batsmen like Shuvagata, Shahriar Nafees, Imrul and Raqibul needs to be brought back while Bowlers like Enamul and Robiul need to be brought back. What are your thoughts on this o learned bretheren ?

[Nadim]

Originally Posted by Vua
My question is what happened to all these 23 dropped players and why were they dropped ?

Enamul Jnr- Did very well in domestic cricket but Lalla keep getting picked because of his experience
Mehrab Jnr- I would rather bring back Belim
Imrul-He is still in the team-NOT in T20
Zunaid-Can't even score runs against street bowlers
Raqibul-Did well in last DPL. since then a total flop
Jahurul-Same as Junaid and busy playing clemon indoor cricket
Nazimuddin- Gosh! Asia cup final

Shuvo- No chance when there are tons of SLA'er ahead of him
Naeem- Still in the team- NOT for T20 thou
Alok Kapali- Gone case like Aftab
Marshall Ayub- Not a T20 player
Shahriar Nafees- Same as Junaid and Zahirul
Aftab- Have a look at his recent picture

Mahbubul Alam- Was invovled in bpl match fixing.
Nazmul- INJURED
Syed Rasel- Career over due to shoulder injury
Dollar Mahmud- Gone case
Robiul-Injured
Abul Hasan- Injured

Faisal Hossain- too old and useless
Shuvagata- Lost it
Sajedul Islam-Haven't done anything special
Mithun Ali-Why another keeper when we have Bijoy and Mushy already?

I hope it helps

[Gowza]

As promising as sajidul has been in domestics he's not done well at all in internationals. Test average of 77, strike rate of 110 and economy over 4 isn't good enough and the other reason he's been pushed aside was because of guys like mash, nazmul, shafiul, rubel, abul, shahadat, robin, robiul and now with taskin in the mix it's hard to see him get a call anytime soon. Injury hasn't helped him any either.

[BD_TigerZ]

Originally Posted by Vua
My question is what happened to all these 23 dropped players and why were they dropped ?

Select few who are possible selections

Enamul Jnr-I'd prefer too see him get an extended run, more brains than lala but his times short and so is his recent form.

Imrul-Improved like naeem, always amongst the runs and has a decent record with tamim.

Raqibul-The best half volley blocker we had, interested to see if he has improved but still a deadweight.

Naeem- Test only, 40 avg with 12 tons pretty much the best fc batsmen we got.

Marshall Ayub- Sorry to say but in his short time he didn'timpress aanyone.

Nazmul- INJJJURRIIESS ALLLL THHEE TIMMEE

Robiul- Impressive in zim but his lack of pace, action and run up shows where our fast bowl

Shuvagata- Another fc hero who most likely will fail but still in line imo.

My thoughts on certain players.. Players not commented on are gone cases.

[BD_TigerZ]

Let's not go back to our haunted past where we have had possibly the worst batsmen(naz) and bowler(srk) play..full of brainless sagols..

Instead look into the future and try and get a bunch on hungry players like bijoy and shourav..Nurture the youngsters..

-Taskin
-Litton
-Nurul
-Sadman Anik
-Mossadek
-Ratul
-Noor
-Taijul
-Nayem jnr
-Abu jayed

[Rana Melb]

Originally Posted by BD_TigerZ
Let's not go back to our haunted past where we have had possibly the worst batsmen(naz) and bowler(srk) play..full of brainless sagols..

Instead look into the future and try and get a bunch on hungry players like bijoy and shourav..Nurture the youngsters..

-Taskin
-Litton
-Nurul
-Sadman Anik
-Mossadek
-Ratul
-Noor
-Taijul
-Nayem jnr
-Abu jayed

Shabbir?

[Gowza]

Permanent

i don't think anamul and mominul have permanently secured their spots and if they have it's only in particular formats and not in all of them (mominul in no ways has secured a t20 or ODI spot and anamul definitely hasn't secured a test spot).

mash always gets in when not injured but he's injured most of the time.

mushy and shakib are permanents and ahve been the most consistent over the last few years.

tamim was one of the most consistent but if he carries on in current form for to long then i'd expect him to be losing his place.

In and out regulars

Shamsur - dropped out of the XI for form issues but may be back soon as tamim isn't performing.
Nasir - be a reliable player until recently, form slump, shouldn't last forever.
Mahmudullah - has been a regular for years, it's only until recently when nasir, mominul, anamul, shabbir etc have risen that his spot has really been under the pump but he's still a regular squad member.
Farhad Reza - he has been in and out because he's not that good, gets re-selected when the selectors decide to go back to him after a lot of failed pace selections or when they think he's the best pace all rounder and we need one.
Zia - has been reasonably regular in the squads recently, not in the XI always due to other pace options.
Nazmul - injured most of the time otherwise non-selection is a mystery.
Rubel - he's a regular, never in and out tbh he's always in the XI or the squad unless he's injured.
Shafiul - injuries, he's no good in tests or t20s and is just ok in ODIs where we have better options.
Abul Hasan - injured currently plus despite potential has not done well with the ball given his chances, in fact he's been horrible (but certainly has a lot of potential).
Al-Amin - he's been rpetty consistently in the squads/XI in the last year.
Razzak - when has he been in and out? he's pretty much in the XI all the time except tests where he's proven to be horrible.
Sohag Gazi - has been consistently in the XI/squads upon initial selection.
Arafat Sunny - only just recently got selection, should be given more short format chances.
Sabbir Rahman - only just recently selected and has played most matches since, hasn't done anything to be selected in ODIs or tests.

In and out irregulars

Robiul - regular in tests nowadays, in his t20 and ODI chances hasn't been impressive enough.
Shuvagata - good showings when he was given national team chances but has had big domestic slumps since that time.
Sajedul Islam - addressed him already, hasn't been in impressive in his chances and injuries plus many other pacers to contend with.
Mithun Ali - people who watched him pretty much unanimously agree he shouldn't be in the team, domestics stats are nothing to write home about either.
Naeem - had a poor intitial run which caused him to be dropped, then did well on return and has been somewhat regular in the squads since but there are other options that are being looked into.
Shahriar Nafees - did all his stuff early on and mainly against minnows.
Mahbubul Alam - match fixing and not particularly impressive when given chances.
Dollar Mahmud - economy rate of over 7 in ODIs, that's huge, has a good average but i'm sure that economy rate is why other options have been ventured.
Enamul Jnr - been given quite a number of chances a number of times and although hasn't been horrible he hasn't done enough to say hey i deserve a spot.
Imrul - had a terrible initial test run, had a big form slump in ODIs and was dropped, recently returned to tests and scored a ton so will probably be in the next few test squads.
Raqibul - a big form slump in ODIs and a poor test run saw him dropped, hasn't done much to force a return.

Players who are never coming back

Ashraful - well yeah i hope not.
Shahadat - you never know with our pace issues.
Mehrab Jnr - again you never know but many more talented batsmen out there.
Zunaid - still on the fringe imo, if anamul and shamsur and tamim continue on well he won't get a sniff for awhile.
Jahurul - still not out of it but same as junaid (though junaid i think is more in favour with selectors).
Nazimuddin - anyone who has seen him at the international level knows why he shouldn't be back.
Shuvo - wasn't to impressive in his chances, didn't do absolutely horrible either but so many SLA's and spinners in general that are ahead of him.
Alok Kapali - just been way to inconsistent in his chances, plus not done anything of note to get re-selected.
Marshall Ayub - is he out for good? was only just recently in the test XI.
Aftab - yeah gone for good, dropped because of a poor run and barely been heard from again.
Syed Rasel - got a shoulder injury and was never the same again, many more pace options now.
Faisal Hossain - apparently if you watch him then you know why he wasn't given more chances.


what about someone like elias sunny? he's an in and out player that did ok, he's surely still on the fringe but other spinners have pushed ahead of him.

[ddude]

Extensive list there, Gowza. I would say Junaid and Jahurul have a good chance of making a comeback though.

[Gowza]

Originally Posted by ddude
Extensive list there, Gowza. I would say Junaid and Jahurul have a good chance of making a comeback though.

the list is from the 1st post and yeah that's why i said they're still on the fringe, jahurul was in the team as recently as last year.