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Old June 1, 2005, 03:48 PM
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Default Who are coming back after test series

Prothom Alo reports 5 players will come back and 3 names are already certain. They are:

Enamul Jr
Shahadat
Talha

The other two could be Javed and Mushfiq

And following 4 are joining the team for ODI series.

Khaled Mahmud
Nazmul Hossain
Tushar Imran
Manjural Rana

Edited on, June 1, 2005, 8:49 PM GMT, by bd_cricket.

Edited on, June 1, 2005, 8:50 PM GMT, by bd_cricket.
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Old June 1, 2005, 04:04 PM
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I still don't like Mushfiqur playing international cricket so early. But, at this point dumping him for Tushar Imran does not make sense. As a batsman, Tushar will have hard time coming in terms with playing conditions here, whereas MR has already settled himself.

In terms of oneday cricket, Tushar and MR had similar kind of success against Zim A. There is no reason to believe that Tushar has improved much since that tour, whereas MR has leapfroged ahead of everyone else in that BD A team.

I think selectors should ask Tushar along with Rajib, Talha, and Enamul to join the A team that will be here the day after the second Test.

Edited on, June 1, 2005, 9:09 PM GMT, by TheWatcher.
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Old June 1, 2005, 04:04 PM
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Above info seems correct but DS reports that Rahim may stay back for ODI!
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Old June 1, 2005, 04:14 PM
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Javed Omar should stay. I really dont know why he is always chopped from ODIs while we need someone who is steady and has experience. May be he is scoring slowly, but other guys are not scoring at all. Cricket (ODI or test) is a game of specialists and Golla is a specialist opening batsman in a reasonable form. He must stay. Take Shahriar Nafees out.

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Old June 1, 2005, 04:21 PM
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I agree with you, TheWatcher.

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I still don't like Mushfiqur playing international cricket so early. But, at this point dumping him for Tushar Imran does not make sense. As a batsman, Tushar will have hard time coming in terms with playing conditions here, whereas MR has already settled himself.

In terms of oneday cricket, Tushar and MR had similar kind of success against Zim A. There is no reason to believe that Tushar has improved much since that tour, whereas MR has leapfroged ahead of everyone else in that BD A team.

I think selectors should ask Tushar along with Rajib, Talha, and Enamul to join the A team that will be here the day after the second Test.

Edited on, June 1, 2005, 9:09 PM GMT, by TheWatcher.
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Old June 1, 2005, 04:26 PM
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Javed Omar should stay. I really dont know why he is always chopped from ODIs while we need someone who is steady and has experience. May be he is scoring slowly, but other guys are not scoring at all. Cricket (ODI or test) is a game of specialists and Golla is a specialist opening batsman in a reasonable form. He must stay. Take Shahriar Nafees out.
I agree with you. I think Abir should continue playing with the A team. Also, Javed has scored faster in recent matches.

Edited on, June 1, 2005, 9:29 PM GMT, by TheWatcher.
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Old June 1, 2005, 07:14 PM
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without gulla BD may come to a point 5/5 in one dayers
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Old June 1, 2005, 07:15 PM
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its not like BD is trying to win a one day game, all they want is to stay as many overs possible to survive there. so what difference does it make in one day or test for them??
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Old June 1, 2005, 07:22 PM
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Coming back, Bangladesh National team.

going in Bangladesh A team in July.
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Old June 1, 2005, 07:43 PM
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I dont think you can compare Tusher with Mushfiq. Look,,, this Condition BS is not really flying. Having English experience didnt help any of the players... its more about how you approach the game. Tusher has improved alot in recent times and did have the first double century in India and scoring regular runs in recent matches. He is a decent batsmen with better experience and technique than any other inexperienced member of the team.
When do we get the point of ,, not all these young lads are Tendulkar, G Smith etc.? I would prefer a Steve Waugh in the team than another Kapali in terms of approaching the game....
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Old June 1, 2005, 07:44 PM
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javed should stay...specially in england where we need someone steady.... mushfiq is another batsman i would like to see play some odi..... so my guess will be enamul, talha, shahadat, abir and munir.
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Old June 1, 2005, 08:26 PM
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Tusher has improved alot in recent times and did have the first double century in India and scoring regular runs in recent matches. He is a decent batsmen with better experience and technique than any other inexperienced member of the team.
Here is the profile of Tushar Imran. There is no record of his scoring a double century. Even his first class average is pretty mediocre.

But, I have to admitt I never saw this guy in action, and he may be a lot better batsman then what his stats say. So, I am very interested to know what is the basis of your high regard for Tushar.
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Old June 1, 2005, 08:43 PM
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In any test country other than BD, Rahim wouldnt be playing tests for at least another 5 years. I also agree with you TheWatcher. It really is too early for him. I mean he is still in school.
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Old June 1, 2005, 09:32 PM
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As we could not bat 50 overs in any innings of the first test, so I think Javed Omar should stay in the team so that we can use full 50 overs in the ODIs regardless of the run rate...

Edited on, June 2, 2005, 2:33 AM GMT, by m35helal.
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Old June 1, 2005, 09:41 PM
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Above info seems correct but DS reports that Rahim may stay back for ODI!
mushfiqur's stay in odi will depend upon his performance on the second test if he is selected and i think he will be selected.
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Javed Omar should stay. I really dont know why he is always chopped from ODIs while we need someone who is steady and has experience. May be he is scoring slowly, but other guys are not scoring at all. Cricket (ODI or test) is a game of specialists and Golla is a specialist opening batsman in a reasonable form. He must stay. Take Shahriar Nafees out.

Edited on, June 1, 2005, 9:19 PM GMT, by esteban_loaiza.
i support you too. for no reason golla is always the one to be unluckily send back. the only reason is because he is not as talented as ashraful or bashar. but whats the point of being talented when you can not actually do anything with that talent. golla might not be as talented as ashraful but he atleast scores some odd 30 runs which ashraful scores once in a while. if he was consistent then i would not have any problems dropping golla.
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Old June 1, 2005, 09:44 PM
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In any test country other than BD, Rahim wouldnt be playing tests for at least another 5 years. I also agree with you TheWatcher. It really is too early for him. I mean he is still in school.
you are very right aka. for some reason our selectors are making it very easy for players to get into the national team. i think they should make it more challenging.
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Old June 1, 2005, 11:00 PM
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Above info seems correct but DS reports that Rahim may stay back for ODI!
What kind of double standards is this?

If selecting Shahadat Hossain is 'Too early', then selecting Mushfiqur Rahim is NOT 'too early'?

Let me get this straight. Just because a player has failed to deliver in his debut match, he gets the tag of being 'too early', and another player who scores only 19 runs facing 55 balls in his debut test - innings & failed to show any kind of technique to handle bouncers in the 2nd innings, as opposed to scoring 63 and a century in the just concluded games, he has suddenly become 'NOT too early'?

You are right on one point - I haven't seen Mushfiqur Rahim to face bouncers in the match against Sussex or against Northamtonshire, but knowing the early history of all the Ashrafuls & others, Mushfiqur Rahim will play gloriously for 1 whole year, and then go into the darkness for another 3 to 4 years. And we will all give excuses that he hasn't played too many first class games before having his debut, so why blame him?

I'm feeling sorry for the 16 year old kid.
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Old June 1, 2005, 11:08 PM
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That is a premature thing to say about Rahim. How do you know that? You can't judge him by the runs that he scored in Lord's. Don't feel sorry for him. I think he has all the ingredients to be a very good one. Was he brought in too early? Yes. Almost all of them were.
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Old June 1, 2005, 11:51 PM
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Heres the daily star report:
http://thedailystar.net/2005/06/02/d50602040633.htm

I think the 4 players will be: Javed Omar, Enamul, Talha, and maybe Rajin if he performs bad in the 2nd test if selected.

Javed can be kept as a opener to see off the new ball against Australia.
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Old June 2, 2005, 03:19 AM
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Javed should stay in England for ODI
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Old June 2, 2005, 05:18 AM
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I am waiting to see how the new found Rajin-Nasif ODI opening pair does.. I hope they maintain their form as a pair.
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Old June 2, 2005, 05:31 AM
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I think Shahadat, Talaha, and Munir should go back and rest of the batsman ( Javed, Shahariar, Rahim )should remain as reserv. We may play/replace them depends on their performance.
Because we have 6 ODI to play.
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