Pakistan touring lands (Ire, Eng, Scot) 2018

[aklemalp]

A brave fightback to avoid the follow on by this last wicket pair.

[aklemalp]

Enforcement of the follow-on.

Some folks of Cricinfo wanted them to not to so that their batsmen get some 'practice' for the 'bigger' picture: tests against England.

[Night_wolf]

Originally Posted by aklemalp
England is already looking to poach Jofra Archer, and maybe finding replacements for Anderson and Broad.

Saw in cricinfo that he needs to wait for 7 years to qualify for england tat means he can play for England in 2022/2023. This is just absurd.

I cant get the qualification process for england. First half of rankin's representation for Ireland ended at "19 Sep 2012" then he started to play for England in "3 Sep 2013". Had to wait one freaking year in comparison to archer's 7. Rankin then last played for England at "17 Jan 2014" and started to represent Ireland again on "14 Feb 2016"..2 years!!

From 19 Sep 2012 to 14 feb 2016 in just 3.5 years this guy represented Ireland than quit Ireland and Represented England then got kicked out from England team and Started to represent Ireland again!!

are you kidding me? why is the rule so lenient for him?

[aklemalp]

Originally Posted by Night_wolf
Saw in cricinfo that he needs to wait for 7 years to qualify for england tat means he can play for England in 2022/2023. This is just absurd.

I cant get the qualification process for england. First half of rankin's representation for Ireland ended at "19 Sep 2012" then he started to play for England in "3 Sep 2013". Had to wait one freaking year in comparison to archer's 7. Rankin then last played for England at "17 Jan 2014" and started to represent Ireland again on "14 Feb 2016"..2 years!!

From 19 Sep 2012 to 14 feb 2016 in just 3.5 years this guy represented Ireland than quit Ireland and Represented England then got kicked out from England team and Started to represent Ireland again!!

are you kidding me? why is the rule so lenient for him?

I haven't looked into this much. But Archer is interested in playing England instead of the Windies (financially, makes sense ).

I think because of the Irishmen's close proximity to the Englishmen, they got first choice and dibs on the poaching process. /s

Now, I think Donal can shed some light and provide us with some more in depth information concerning this.

I'm just a layman just as you are.

[aklemalp]

A couple of drop catches in the slip cordon, Azhar Ali the culprit could cost Pakistan the match. This is looking like it'll be a drawn game.

Amir was pulled out of the attack halfway through his 4th over..

[Donal C]

An excellent recovery and some pride restored after the first innings shambles. I still doubt we'll make Pakistan bat again, but it would be amazing if we could manage that, would be some achievement.

Its like the anti Bangladesh debut, horror first innings, maybe better fortune the 2nd?

[Donal C]

Originally Posted by Night_wolf
Saw in cricinfo that he needs to wait for 7 years to qualify for england tat means he can play for England in 2022/2023. This is just absurd.

I cant get the qualification process for england. First half of rankin's representation for Ireland ended at "19 Sep 2012" then he started to play for England in "3 Sep 2013". Had to wait one freaking year in comparison to archer's 7. Rankin then last played for England at "17 Jan 2014" and started to represent Ireland again on "14 Feb 2016"..2 years!!

From 19 Sep 2012 to 14 feb 2016 in just 3.5 years this guy represented Ireland than quit Ireland and Represented England then got kicked out from England team and Started to represent Ireland again!!

are you kidding me? why is the rule so lenient for him?

The rule isnt lenient. Its to do with him being from NI, therefore having access to English and Irish passport, plus the ECB's own eligibility rules.

Rankin holds a UK and Irish passport, and the ECB back then regarded all Irish players as "homegrown". Hence why he could retire from Ireland and play for England the next day. The ICC eligibility rules were changed at some period around 2014 IIRC, which reduced the waiting period for an ex FM cricketer to play for an Associate to 2 years instead of the previous 4.

Archer's case is to do with the fact that the ECB have a 4 year residency period waiting time which is of their own volition. Jofra holds a UK passport IIRC so if the ECB wanted to they could call him up tomorrow, but they simply donw want to alter their criteria to suit own guy. Hence why Archer would have to relocate to the UK for several years before being eligible for selection. It has nothing to do with the ICC or Rankin or anybody else, its purely down to the ECB's own rules.

[Night_wolf]

Originally Posted by Donal C
The rule isnt lenient. Its to do with him being from NI, therefore having access to English and Irish passport, plus the ECB's own eligibility rules.

Rankin holds a UK and Irish passport, and the ECB back then regarded all Irish players as "homegrown". Hence why he could retire from Ireland and play for England the next day. The ICC eligibility rules were changed at some period around 2014 IIRC, which reduced the waiting period for an ex FM cricketer to play for an Associate to 2 years instead of the previous 4.

Archer's case is to do with the fact that the ECB have a 4 year residency period waiting time which is of their own volition. Jofra holds a UK passport IIRC so if the ECB wanted to they could call him up tomorrow, but they simply donw want to alter their criteria to suit own guy. Hence why Archer would have to relocate to the UK for several years before being eligible for selection. It has nothing to do with the ICC or Rankin or anybody else, its purely down to the ECB's own rules.

so confusing. I wish Eng would just stop poaching other countries' players

[Shadow]

Mohammad Abbas has got 4 lbws.

[aklemalp]

The fightback from Ireland is noteworthy

[Rifat]

Well played Thompson his first International test fifty that too at a very crucial match.

I want Bangladesh Ireland Test match in Ireland...

[Night_wolf]

if Ireland can score 80 more anything can happen..especially with pak batting

[Rifat]

Originally Posted by Night_wolf
if Ireland can score 80 more anything can happen..especially with pak batting

Job not yet done for Ireland. they need at least 175+ run lead if possible...

[aklemalp]

100 partnership up.

Pakistan desperately needs a wicket or two

[aklemalp]

Ireland has shown great resolve after the drop catches by Pakistan.

This match could have been long over by now.

My coach always says:
"Catches win matches."

[aklemalp]

The partnership finally broken

[aklemalp]

KOB into the 90s

[aklemalp]

Kevin O'Brien writes his name into the history books.

Ireland's 1st test centurion.

[NoName]

KOB is the Irish Aminul Islam

[horizon]

Originally Posted by Rifat
Job not yet done for Ireland. they need at least 175+ run lead if possible...

Won't probably be enough. The pitch is better now. They will need rain gods too. There's a rain forecast tomorrow.

[Donal C]

Someone kill me.

I refuse to believe that what I have witnessed today is real

[ahnaf]

Donal must be super happy.

Edit : well. looks like i am late to the party.

[ToBeFair]

IRE has a very good chance to win this match. And I believe they will, because IRE is not BD.

As for Pakistan, I did not understand how they enforced follow on when they were leading first innings by less than 199 (or may be I am ignorant about follow on rules). But irrespective of the rules, it was a mistake for Pakistan to not bat again.

[aklemalp]

Originally Posted by ToBeFair
As for Pakistan, I did not understand how they enforced follow on when they were leading first innings by less than 199 (or may be I am ignorant about follow on rules).

Law 14.1.2

A 4 or 3-day test(after 1st day abandoned without toss) - follow-on is 150
A 2-day test- follow-on is 100
A 1-day test- follow-on is 75

[R0ssei]

Originally Posted by ToBeFair
IRE has a very good chance to win this match. And I believe they will, because IRE is not BD.

As for Pakistan, I did not understand how they enforced follow on when they were leading first innings by less than 199 (or may be I am ignorant about follow on rules). But irrespective of the rules, it was a mistake for Pakistan to not bat again.

I think since the 1st day was washed of due to rain, the match is officially a 4-day test. So, the follow-on criteria changed from 200-run lead to 150-run lead for the first team (PAK).