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Old January 13, 2010, 06:38 AM
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Default BD's 2 to watch...

In Peter Roebuck's article here: http://www.cricinfo.com/magazine/con...ry/443682.html, he picks 13 players to watch in the next 10 years but excludes any Deshi players.

Who would be your 2 to watch from BD (remember they have to be under 24 years old)?

I'd go for Mahmudullah (still only 23) and Suhrawardi Shuvo.

"...And, just for a change let's start with the unfashionable nations, though not before begging forgiveness for omitting any players from Bangladesh and Zimbabwe. Talent abides in both nations but little is seen of them and it's hard to pick anyone out with any confidence. Only players 24 and under have been considered - a qualification that eliminates Hashim Amla and JP Duminy amongst others.

West Indies


Kemar Roach (21). His thunderbolts impressed observers in the Champions Trophy and shook the Australians on the recent tour Down Under. Between them helmets and slow pitches had reduced the impact of fast bowling. After dominating from 1972 to about 1995, it had fallen back. Roach's raw speed raised eyebrows. He forced Ricky Ponting to retire hurt for the first time in his career.

Adrian Barath (19). Any teenager capable of scoring a hundred as an opener at the Gabba in his first Test, and against an otherwise rampant Australian outfit, has much to offer. Small, and spirited, Barath is a gusty and gutsy opener and a fine fieldsman. His rise confirms the ever-increasing part played by the Indian community in Caribbean cricket.

England


Stuart Broad (23). Lively allrounder capable of changing matches with bat or ball. Judging from performances at critical moments in the Ashes series, he cannot be cramped by opponents or pressure. Can swing the ball from a lofty place and can counter-attack from the lower orders. Not always the most discreet of competitors. Sons of referees have much in common with the sons of bishops.

Adil Rashid (21). Bradford born legspinner and handy batsman. Already has made his mark in ODIs and can be expected to play Test cricket sooner rather than later. His rise confirms the part played in England by those raised in cultures outside the slow-flowing mainstream.

New Zealand


Martin Guptill (23). An upright batsman with a fine technique and superb drive, he is the likeliest of the emerging Kiwis to make his mark. Like most of his fellow countrymen, has been thrown into the deep end at an early age and his figures have suffered. However his class cannot be missed. Already amongst his country's leading ODI batsmen

Sri Lanka



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Angelo Mathews (22). A sturdy and capable allrounder with proven skills in both departments. Has prospered in all forms of the game. A fine batsman, he reached 99 in a Test match against India only to run himself out. His medium-pacers combine accuracy and variety. Sri Lanka can depend on his skills and fortitude.

Pakistan


Mohammad Aamer (17). A slip of a lad from the backwaters, he impressed the Kiwis and Australians with his stamina, pace and ability to swing the ball in both directions from either side of the wicket. Often surpassed 150kph and did not flag in a long spell in Melbourne. With the ball he is Wasim Akram reincarnate.

Umar Akmal (19). From a strong cricketing family that used to practise in a gully, he has already been acclaimed by sage and mostly sober observers as Pakistan's next great batsman. He has a correct technique, a wider range of shot and an abundance of spirit. Impetuosity is the only thing holding him back.

South Africa


Wayne Parnell (20). Tall left-armer with plenty of pace and swing in his armoury. Provided he stays fit he will bring penetration, variety and colour to the South African team, thereby filling several holes. Comes from the townships in the Eastern Cape, long a stronghold and nowadays the most productive cricketing location in the country.

India


Virat Kohli (21). The Delhi-ite seems the most composed and correct of India's emerging batsmen. So far he has taken the trip from successful Under-19 captain to international honours, wealth and acclaim in his stride. Many perils await, but his character can survive temptation and his technique scrutiny.

Ishant Sharma (21). Already has had more ups and downs than most boys of his age. His inexperience tends to be forgotten as he strives to recapture the excellence shown in his early days in Indian colours. Can be strengthened by these confusions and return as a fully fledged bowler blessed with height, pace and durability of body and mind.

Australia


Steven Smith (20). Dashing batsman and handy legspinner, a combination warmly appreciated but in short supply Down Under. Bound to get his chance soon but more likely to play as an allrounder than as a specialist spinner. Has a sound father and a strong club and so can survive the hype.

Mitchell Marsh (18). Powerfully built and hard-hitting middle-order batsman. Also bowls a heavy ball. Currently at the Under-19 World Cup but his progress will be closely followed when he returns. Australia is looking towards youth as it tries to restore vitality in the age of professionalism.
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Old January 13, 2010, 06:46 AM
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In Peter Roebuck's article here: http://www.cricinfo.com/magazine/con...ry/443682.html, he picks 13 players to watch in the next 10 years but excludes any Deshi players.

Who would be your 2 to watch from BD (remember they have to be under 24 years old)?

I'd go for Mahmudullah (still only 23) and Suhrawardi Shuvo.

"...And, just for a change let's start with the unfashionable nations, though not before begging forgiveness for omitting any players from Bangladesh and Zimbabwe. Talent abides in both nations but little is seen of them and it's hard to pick anyone out with any confidence. Only players 24 and under have been considered - a qualification that eliminates Hashim Amla and JP Duminy amongst others.

West Indies


Kemar Roach (21). His thunderbolts impressed observers in the Champions Trophy and shook the Australians on the recent tour Down Under. Between them helmets and slow pitches had reduced the impact of fast bowling. After dominating from 1972 to about 1995, it had fallen back. Roach's raw speed raised eyebrows. He forced Ricky Ponting to retire hurt for the first time in his career.

Adrian Barath (19). Any teenager capable of scoring a hundred as an opener at the Gabba in his first Test, and against an otherwise rampant Australian outfit, has much to offer. Small, and spirited, Barath is a gusty and gutsy opener and a fine fieldsman. His rise confirms the ever-increasing part played by the Indian community in Caribbean cricket.

England


Stuart Broad (23). Lively allrounder capable of changing matches with bat or ball. Judging from performances at critical moments in the Ashes series, he cannot be cramped by opponents or pressure. Can swing the ball from a lofty place and can counter-attack from the lower orders. Not always the most discreet of competitors. Sons of referees have much in common with the sons of bishops.

Adil Rashid (21). Bradford born legspinner and handy batsman. Already has made his mark in ODIs and can be expected to play Test cricket sooner rather than later. His rise confirms the part played in England by those raised in cultures outside the slow-flowing mainstream.

New Zealand


Martin Guptill (23). An upright batsman with a fine technique and superb drive, he is the likeliest of the emerging Kiwis to make his mark. Like most of his fellow countrymen, has been thrown into the deep end at an early age and his figures have suffered. However his class cannot be missed. Already amongst his country's leading ODI batsmen

Sri Lanka



Wayne Parnell is just what South Africa's attack needs © Getty Images




Angelo Mathews (22). A sturdy and capable allrounder with proven skills in both departments. Has prospered in all forms of the game. A fine batsman, he reached 99 in a Test match against India only to run himself out. His medium-pacers combine accuracy and variety. Sri Lanka can depend on his skills and fortitude.

Pakistan


Mohammad Aamer (17). A slip of a lad from the backwaters, he impressed the Kiwis and Australians with his stamina, pace and ability to swing the ball in both directions from either side of the wicket. Often surpassed 150kph and did not flag in a long spell in Melbourne. With the ball he is Wasim Akram reincarnate.

Umar Akmal (19). From a strong cricketing family that used to practise in a gully, he has already been acclaimed by sage and mostly sober observers as Pakistan's next great batsman. He has a correct technique, a wider range of shot and an abundance of spirit. Impetuosity is the only thing holding him back.

South Africa


Wayne Parnell (20). Tall left-armer with plenty of pace and swing in his armoury. Provided he stays fit he will bring penetration, variety and colour to the South African team, thereby filling several holes. Comes from the townships in the Eastern Cape, long a stronghold and nowadays the most productive cricketing location in the country.

India


Virat Kohli (21). The Delhi-ite seems the most composed and correct of India's emerging batsmen. So far he has taken the trip from successful Under-19 captain to international honours, wealth and acclaim in his stride. Many perils await, but his character can survive temptation and his technique scrutiny.

Ishant Sharma (21). Already has had more ups and downs than most boys of his age. His inexperience tends to be forgotten as he strives to recapture the excellence shown in his early days in Indian colours. Can be strengthened by these confusions and return as a fully fledged bowler blessed with height, pace and durability of body and mind.

Australia


Steven Smith (20). Dashing batsman and handy legspinner, a combination warmly appreciated but in short supply Down Under. Bound to get his chance soon but more likely to play as an allrounder than as a specialist spinner. Has a sound father and a strong club and so can survive the hype.

Mitchell Marsh (18). Powerfully built and hard-hitting middle-order batsman. Also bowls a heavy ball. Currently at the Under-19 World Cup but his progress will be closely followed when he returns. Australia is looking towards youth as it tries to restore vitality in the age of professionalism.
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If he knows something about cricket he should knows that Shakib is much better than : all theses 13...look at the list is it a joke ? Sharma ( ha ha ha ) , adil rashid ( even worse than ashraful ).........
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Old January 13, 2010, 06:49 AM
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[QUOTE=abu2abu;1039447]In Peter Roebuck's article here: http://www.cricinfo.com/magazine/con...ry/443682.html, he picks 13 players to watch in the next 10 years but excludes any Deshi players.

Who would be your 2 to watch from BD (remember they have to be under 24 years old)?


My 4 will be : shakib , naeem , mahmudullah ( within 5 years they will be among the top 10 all rounders in ODI ) and Tamim
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Old January 13, 2010, 06:49 AM
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Under 19 legspinner Shabbir rahman http://www.cricinfo.com/u19wc2010/co...er/373538.html
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Old January 13, 2010, 06:53 AM
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Old January 13, 2010, 06:54 AM
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I see no future of I.Sharma, Smith, Rashid. And Mitchel Marsh is not going to make any impression in this year.
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Old January 13, 2010, 06:57 AM
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I see no future of I.Sharma, Smith, Rashid. And Mitchel Marsh is not going to make any impression in this year.
I think he's talking about the next 10 years.
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Old January 13, 2010, 07:00 AM
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http://www.cricinfo.com/ci/content/player/244497.html
thats adil rashid's stat even ashraful do better......and the author describe him as a genuine all-rounders . If Shakib was Australian or British he would have seen as the greatest all-rounders of cricket history .
Hopefully with full strenght bangladesh team we will give a lesson to England on mars
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Old January 13, 2010, 07:38 AM
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If he knows something about cricket he should knows that Shakib is much better than : all theses 13...look at the list is it a joke ? Sharma ( ha ha ha ) , adil rashid ( even worse than ashraful ).........
With all due respect, Peter Roebuck does know a lot about cricket. The problem though is that Bangladesh cricket - both international and domestic -does not recieve much exposure beyond Bangladesh, their fan following and the ICC competitions. Secondly Shakib has had more international experience than a lot of the players listed here and so he should probably be considered as a well known talent rather than an emerging talent and finally I think 10 years is a long period. In these age of T20 very few players will probably survive 10 years.
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Old January 13, 2010, 07:53 AM
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With all due respect, Peter Roebuck does know a lot about cricket. The problem though is that Bangladesh cricket - both international and domestic -does not recieve much exposure beyond Bangladesh, their fan following and the ICC competitions. Secondly Shakib has had more international experience than a lot of the players listed here and so he should probably be considered as a well known talent rather than an emerging talent and finally I think 10 years is a long period. In these age of T20 very few players will probably survive 10 years.
yes P Roebuck know much about cricket but it's choke me that he didn't considers any ban or zim player ...and actually I don't see where player like Adil Rashid , or Broad are better than guy like Shakib ( If you are not convince please look there stats )
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LOL. Adil Rashid. HAHAHAH.
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I saw Adil Rashid bowl recently, only because he is a british kid bowling leg spin, everyone thinks he will be England's Shane warne. Rashid is like any other leg spinner in the world, bowls 2-3 bad deliveries an over and if you think he is an all rounder despite seeing him bat, you would also think Farhad Reza, Aftab Ahmed, Alok Kapali are full fledged all rounders
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Old January 13, 2010, 08:28 AM
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Under 19 legspinner Shabbir rahman http://www.cricinfo.com/u19wc2010/co...er/373538.html
Oit! This guy got hazel eyes...nice!!
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Ok I give him the benefit of the doubt that he doesn't know.... and anyways, let's wait till the England series. We'll see how he grasps the fact that the team he was considering unfashionable itself has 13 players to watch and all better than each and every member of the 13 that he had selected.
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Some guy commented in that article:
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Poor choice Mr Somerset man.He even forget THE WIZDEN PLAYER OF THE YEAR SHAKIB AL HASAN. I guess doesn't watch much cricket .Howeverl you get a good chance to watch some cricket of your own country next month against Bangladesh.Then your thirteen may become 13+11=24.
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Old January 13, 2010, 08:59 AM
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Old January 13, 2010, 09:09 AM
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peter roebuck's plz go to pabna mental hospital.
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With all due respect, Peter Roebuck does know a lot about cricket. The problem though is that Bangladesh cricket - both international and domestic -does not recieve much exposure beyond Bangladesh, their fan following and the ICC competitions. Secondly Shakib has had more international experience than a lot of the players listed here and so he should probably be considered as a well known talent rather than an emerging talent and finally I think 10 years is a long period. In these age of T20 very few players will probably survive 10 years.
Board is a sucker I guess then. He was exposed to the world long before Shakib by the English media (the 2nd Botham coming). So your logic don't work. Agree?

What other defenses you have for Honorable Peter Roebuck? He is blind?
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Unlucky 13 vua vua

a homo pervert buira with his list of his own fav 13 young boys !! smells so ywaak

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Old January 13, 2010, 10:06 AM
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I think Peter considered Shakib already a sooper star.
Btw where is Mendis?
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Old January 13, 2010, 10:11 AM
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I think Peter considered Shakib already a sooper star.
Btw where is Mendis?
Mendis is already 24 years old...
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OK may be I did not make my thoughts clear. Let me try again. My points were this

1. In response to dolcevita's first comment - I am saying Peter Roebuck knows his cricket.
2. Not choosing any B'desh players, like I said as Peter has acknowledged it is due to the lack of (his) exposure of Bangladesh cricket - both domestic & internationally. Its the Out of sight Out of memory syndrome.
3. No where am I suggesting that Sakib is not better than the listed 13, he definitely is, if he was not he probably wouldn't have been made captain of Bangladesh. My point was that he is a recognised talent rather than an emerging talent.
4. Tigers_eye - I take your point. my bad. I overlooked Broad.

I am not saying I agree with Mr Roebuck's selection. On the contrary, Sakib is already the capatain of his national team, the only possibility I see from the 13 who might become captain is Virat Kohli. Of course with the Pakistanis you never know who can become captain. so Akmal and Aamer possibly.
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Old January 13, 2010, 10:42 AM
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On the contrary, Sakib is already the capatain of his national team, .
  • it doesn't matter how older a player is to become a captain of BD which is based on averagely 22 years old lads.
  • becoming a captain doesn't prove a player is INTERNATIONALLY well experienced superstar. sometime it may be just a decision of board to select the talented player of the team....may be not the experienced/older one.
    ( fyi: MS Dhoni,Prospar Utseya etc)
  • Graem Smith took the captaincy of country like SA before showing his super power.

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