Is Shakib Al HAsan, the best cricketer Bangladesh have ever produced?

[munshi33]

I will love to say that but b4 that i wana pray for him and wish him the best shakib is a special gift of allah for bangadeshi people as well tamim

Originally Posted by bd-omi
Well, I'm starting to believe that Shakib Al Hasan is the best cricket we have ever produced. What do you think guys?

[bd-omi]

Originally Posted by Beamer
In agreement here.

He should be able to put his name on that board when its all said and done. Until then- 1. Bashar 2. Rafiq 3. Nannu/Akram Khan/ Athar Ali Khan.

Despite all the flaws, I believe Ash should have a place in the best five.

[alibangali]

Everyone is so happy for shakib and so they should be but just as an earnst warning dont pounch on him when he has a lean patch because every successful cricketer has one of those.

[bd-omi]

Originally Posted by alibangali
LOL

i dont know why people even waste their time opening such threads.

Then why don't people like you restrain themselves from commenting on these threads?
Isn't that a waste of time bro?

No offence.....

[FagunerAgun]

Sakib is the best because:

1. He is the best captain, developed excellent team chemistry and a winning mentality, he showed his valour in leading the team when needed, in decision making, batting, bowling and fielding.

2. He is humble without a misleading lip services.

3. He is friendly and his English is better.

[bd-omi]

Originally Posted by Crickey
Shakib is ONLy international quality I have seen. Riyad is developing , Ershad is good too....

rest including tamim are overrated and highly unpredictable. i would like to replace ash with alok kapali.

Tamim is not overrated. He only needs to work on a few errors and then perhaps we'll get an accomplished opening batsman.

[auntu]

Originally Posted by IanW
Ask those questions at the end of a man's career, not at the start

You should also consider our country of origin. We jump to conclusion...we finish things within nine months which might take nine years for others...

[AsifTheManRahman]

Originally Posted by auntu
we finish things within nine months which might take nine years for others...

Classic!

[bd-omi]

Originally Posted by FagunerAgun
Sakib is the best because:

1. He is the best captain, developed excellent team chemistry and a winning mentality, he showed his valour in leading the team when needed, in decision making, batting, bowling and fielding.

2. He is humble without a misleading lip services.

3. He is friendly and his English is better.

[bd-omi]

Stand-in Shakib stands tall

http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesig....php?nid=97985

[Ashfaq]

These typeof thread needs to stop. All players have their highs and lows. Such extravagant paraise would mean that when the player is low, he'll be kicked.

Be in perspective. Once upon a time Hasibul Hossain was the best bowler Bangl;adesh ever produced.
A year or two ago, Ash was the cricket god of Bangladesh.

If we fans can't learn from the past(in the easy job of being a fan) than how can we expect our players to learn from past?(Playing is way harder than being a connoiseur)

[FagunerAgun]

Originally Posted by IanW
Ask those questions at the end of a man's career, not at the start

Completely disagree in this perspective.
What Sakib has done in few weeks, most of your 'mega stars' could not do it, on the field, in few years.
We go by our players achievements, what they have already achieved, without any span of time of their achievements, and any future projection.
One 'mega star' wins a game in five years, another under rated player wins two tests in two weeks.
Then why should you wait for the end of their careers for your individual assessment given that we are looking for a point of time assessment, not for a complete sports career assessment?

[nzfan]

Don't know if its been mentioned, but Shakib is the 4th youngest test captain in history

[One World]

Originally Posted by nzfan
Don't know if its been mentioned, but Shakib is the 4th youngest test captain in history

Quid Novi
Now that is some research

[Zunaid]

Originally Posted by FagunerAgun
Completely disagree in this perspective.
What Sakib has done in few weeks, most of your 'mega stars' could not do it, on the field, in few years.
We go by our players achievements, what they have already achieved, without any span of time of their achievements, and any future projection.
One 'mega star' wins a game in five years, another under rated player wins two tests in two weeks.
Then why should you wait for the end of their careers for your individual assessment given that we are looking for a point of time assessment, not for a complete sports career assessment?

But mister flame of Spring. Ian's 'megastars' are megastars - Ponting, Haydn, Gilchrist et al.

[Anher]

Originally Posted by Zunaid
But mister flame of Spring. Ian's 'megastars' are megastars - Ponting, Haydn, Gilchrist et al.

with due respect to Ian and Dr Z, i believe Ian meant not ask these type of question about any current Bangladeshi player yet. Faguner agun is right in his argument.

[Sohel]

Originally Posted by capslock
Not only is Shakib the best player Bangladesh has ever produced, he is the best cricket player of all time. In fact, he is so good that a century will now be defined as 96 runs in his honour. When players take 5 wickets in an innings it will be called 'getting a Shakib' instead of a 'getting a 5-fer'. He is so good that when we play Australia we won't send our entire team, just him, he will bat at both ends and he will be the only bowler bowling. He won't need the other field positions because all his outs will be by either bowling, lbw or caught and bowleds.

Also, Parliament ought to pass a law making it mandatory for every Bangladeshi cricket fan to sing আমার সোনার ময়না পাখি everytime he gets a Shakib.

BTW, you may have followed the North Star but I was the Hershey Bar in his father's back pocket BEFORE Senior met his eventual wife, so there!

[auntu]

Just got this from pakpassion:

List of bowlers who took 8 or more wickets in their captaincy debut Test match.


13/135 (7/91 & 6/44) Waqar Younis Pak v Zim Karachi 1993-94 W
11/90 (6/7 & 5/83) AER Gilligan Eng v SAf Birmingham 1924 W
11/150 (5/63 & 6/87) EP Nupen SAf v Eng Johannesburg 1930-31 W
10/78 (5/35 & 5/43) GOB Allen Eng v Ind Lord’s 1936 W
9/136 (7/52 & 2/84) Imran Khan Pak v Eng Birmingham 1982 L
9/142 (3/41 & 6/101) RGD Willis Eng v Ind Lord’s 1982 W
8/118 (4/45 & 4/73) Kapil Dev Ind v WI Kingston 1982-83 L
8/129 (3/59 & 5/70) Shakib Al Hasan BD v WI Grenada 2009 W

[Sohel]

BTW: Shakib >>> Vettori.

[Ashfaq]

Definitely the best ATM, but it would be unfair to say he's the best ever. If Nannu had as good an infrastructure, who knows what height he could have reached.

[Imteaz]

Not Yet. Need some more time to say.

[AsifTheManRahman]

Originally Posted by Siraji
Definitely the best ATM, but it would be unfair to say he's the best ever. If Nannu had as good an infrastructure, who knows what height he could have reached.

Well Nannu was, until the later parts of his career, pretty overrated IMO. Not only did he have technical limitations but like many other Bangladeshi batsmen of his time, he was unable to deliver when it mattered, i.e. in international games. There was a time when he had played a good number of ODIs and yet averaged 14.

While it was always a delight watching him in domestic cricket, it wasn't until a year or so before his retirement that he really came good in the international arena, with a couple of 50s in the '99 world cup after piling up a thousand runs in the NCL. As far as ODIs are concerned, I think the likes of Akram, Bulbul and Atahar have done much better than him.

Having said that, you make a good point - he might have excelled given the kind of resources players have access to today.

[beshideshi]

not sure about 'yet' or 'ever'' but right now, Yes.
Sakib is arguably the best spinner in the world, and probably the finest finger spinner ATM
He has the rare quality of performing under pressure, he may not have the best technique, but makes up for it with grit.

[MarufH]

No, not yet. Let me explain.

What Shakib is going through is combination of LUCK and Sheer CONFIDENCE. (Also hard work)

Look, we all know his batting technique leaves a lot to be desired. For example, he played really aggressive 2nd test - 2nd innings, if he got out playing one of those shots, we are the one would be asking for his head. (e.g. Look up the thread, who decided to bat first in second test)

So here is the deal, I hope he can continue improving and keep delivering. Cause end of the, that's all matters... not fluke talent like Ashraful.

[Sayeed Haque]

According to the latest ICC player rating Shakib tops the list of batsmen, bowers and all rounders, in both format of the game, among the Bangladeshis. He is still the top ODI all rounder in the world.