Rohingya Muslims

[Moshin]

I was watching a video of the Rohingya Muslims on YouTube, these people are the Muslims of Burma, they dont recognise them as citizens of Burma, and many of them were killed mainly in Arakan, which borders Bangladesh and Burma.
These people are then forced to migrate to the muslim-Bangladesh, but
they are not welcomed enough by the government and many of them
live in terrible conditions near Cox's Bazar, I think the government should
accept them, because they are Muslims and speak Chittagonian, but they
dont accept them so let them live in mud huts, if they dont want them to
live in Bangladesh, then I think Bangladesh should then take action against
Burma, because they are trying to move them away from Burma into Bangladesh,
and so many have been killed, for just being Muslim, so I think we should
we should accept them as Bangladeshis, if not take action then.
Watch the video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=9kIP-tU89QA

[Kabir]

These people are then forced to migrate to the muslim-Bangladesh

Not true.

many of them live in terrible conditions near Cox's Bazar

I thought it's Rangamati and Bandorban? I could be wrong.


On the topic:

Rohingas (regardless of whether they are Muslims or not) are one certain tribe in Bangladesh that are not given enough attention. It's for fact that they are living in terrible conditions, specially due to the government's inability to handle the situation correctly.

Nobody in this world should live without citizenship as refugees. If the other country can't deal with them, and they're already in your country, you can probably make things better (rather than worse) by allowing them to have education and employment.

I am for the Rohinga citizenship in Bangladesh.

[Parisa]

chukma people....yes they are bengalis tooo..... agree with kabir

[Moshin]

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[Moshin]

...but same as always no comment from Bangladesh
(wish we were more tougher than ever!)

[Moshin]

The soldiers put bodies front the people as a warning,
meaning dont come back. Thier intention is obviously
'get out of Burma, flee to Bangladesh' this then forces
them to flee from thier country

[Tigers_eye]

Let's invade Burma!! In the name of democracy...

[Murad]

who are the rohingas? the chakma people?

[Moshin]

Originally Posted by Tigers_eye
Let's invade Burma!! In the name of democracy...

i agree its time to take some action...im ready!!!

[Moshin]

do you guys know them as the 'chakma people' what does that mean
boy really is true, no one gives a damn bout them by looking at this poll
what is so bad about the rohingya people????

[Fazal]

Originally Posted by moshin_31
no one gives a damn bout them by looking at this poll
what is so bad about the rohingya people????

I guess their Bojka Naak ...I am just guessing here

[Moshin]

Originally Posted by Fazal
I guess their Bojka Naak ...I am just guessing here

can someone tell me what a bojka naak is i am clueless with my bengali

[Moshin]

oh.. big nose... man that is cruel dude! just 4 tat ?

[Parisa]

Originally Posted by moshin_31
can someone tell me what a bojka naak is i am clueless with my bengali

big nose

[Parisa]

bent nose

[Moshin]

they dont accept them because they got bent nose...
....thats a bit out of order i think

[Sauron]

Originally Posted by moshin_31
...
then I think Bangladesh should then take action against
Burma, because they are trying to move them away from Burma into Bangladesh,
and so many have been killed, for just being Muslim, so I think we should
we should accept them as Bangladeshis, if not take action then.
Watch the video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=9kIP-tU89QA

Who let such a lowest common denominator get bestowed with BC membership??? Ooops. Forgot that BC doesn't discriminate.

[al Furqaan]

to be honest, they do look like they are bengalis (i.e they are brown not yellow, AFAIK) and as such they would "belong" in bangladesh more so than in myanmar.

perhaps it is wrong for them to kick them out on account of religion...but maybe they don't belong there in the first place.

at any rate bangaldesh gov and OIC should take the lead to alleviate their plight. the day you depend on a non muslim to get you your bread, is the day you look to others to set you free or to give you commands.

[Sohel]

There are Bangladeshi Rohingyas and Rakhaines (now registered voters) in Chittagong and Pauakhali among other places, and there are Arakanese-Myanmarese Rohingyia and Rakhaine refugees, I think we should remember that and adhere to our obligations - obligations to our citizens and refugees alike - as per all of the relevant UN resolutions we are a party to as a nation.

That said, the cultural, historic and linguistic connection between Arakan and Chittagong and parts of Noakhali make it difficult to distinguish the two separate groups. Even today, there are many Bengalis from Chittagong and Noakhali still living in Akiab, Arakan.

[PoorFan]

Quote from 'Nuke' thread ...

Originally Posted by moshin_31
Would it be a good thing for Bangladesh to start making Nuclear Weapons, maybe in the future some time we might be attacked by, who's our enemy... i dunno... uh maybe Burma, i mean they are displacing all Rohingya Muslims to Chittagong, but why are we still friends with them I do not know. Bangladesh has not yet signed anything to say they are a Nuclear Umbrella state, so will there be any doubts that they might start producing nuclear activities in the near future, i dunno should we or not, i mean if we do, the world wouldn't really see us as a threat to the regions???

Are ... did you just change your policy in a over night? Why you talking so stingy here? Just cook some 'nuke' in your kitchen ( restaurant ) and throw it in Burma from BD border to clean it up real cleeeaaan. So that those Muslim Rohingya will be pleased for ever for the entire land to lived in. Why talk of a mere national card, citigenship which brings nothing, but a honorable label of 3rd world most poorest and corrupted country in this world?

Didn't I told you to learn Bangla first? so that you can dream in Bangla every night, to wake up every morning and open new threads with consistent as well as interesting thoughts? Seriously, think about it brother.

[ammark]

I was watching a program a few weeks ago on CNN about Rohingyas, and their conditions at Tal Camp, in Teknaf. To Clarify, the Rohingya refugees speak their own Rakhine dialect and their language is written in the burmese script. Their spoken language is not Chittagonian.

From a number of sources, my understanding is that the Rohingya refugees, whether in Myanmar or Bangladesh, are one of the most abused people, like other minorities. The Police, government, local bengalis all extort a lot of from these refugees, and deprive them in many ways... they do not have the sensitivity to treat them with dignity and respect.

Many Rohingya refugees have left Tal Camp and have settled the sparesely populated areas in Bandarban and Rangamati for a better life. A lot of them also work as stone gatherers in Jaflong, Sylhet. There, they also work in oppressive minimum wage conditions, but are treated with prejudice and disrespect.

To say that they should be given Bangladeshi citizenship is a very noble gesture, but the mentality of Bangladeshis must change and be embracing of these other people. A As it is, we have a hard time with Chakma citizens (a tribe in the Hill Tracts with predominantly Mongoloid features), Biharis, etc.

[Sohel]

I'm no expert but from what I've heard I found Chittagonian and Rakhine languages not the same but very similar, especially in sound like Russian and Ukranian. Not surprising given centuries old ties between Chittagong and Akiab ...

Here's a bit from Wikipedia: -

Chittagong has been a seaport since ancient times. Arabs traded with the port from the 9th century AD. The Chittagong region was under the kingdom of Arakan during the sixth and seventh centuries. Before Muslim rule, Chittagong had been either under the control of the Arakans or under the kings of Burma. Sultan Fakruddin Mubarak Shah of Sonargaon conquered Chittagong in 1340. After the defeat of Sultan Giasuddin Mahmud Shah in the hands of Sher Shah in1538, the Arakanese again captured Chittagong. From this time onward until its conquest by the Mughals this region was under the control of the Portuguese and the Magh pirates. The Mughal Commandar Bujurg Umed Khan expelled the Portuguese from the area in 1666 and established Mughal rule there. The Mughals renamed Chittagong as Islamabad.

LINK

Rohingyas are migrants from southeastern regions in neighbouring Bengal, in a process that started before the British colonial era, but accelerated during this time. Their linguistic and cultural similarity with the Chittagonian people is often cited as evidence for this. U Nu's democratic administration also did recognize them and there was a Radio Programme for Rohingya ...

The Rohingya language is an eastern Indic language of the Indo-European family. It is mutually intelligible with Chittagonian, the language of southeastern Bangladesh and is related to Bengali, which is spoken in neighboring Bangladesh and India. The language has many loan-words from Urdu, Persian, Hindi, Bangla, and Arabic, although some words from Bamar and English are also included. The Rohingya language used to be written using the Arabic script for more than 300 years, however, there has been a successful effort to write it using Roman script, known as Rohingyalish which has been recently recognized by ISO with ISO 639-3 "rhg" code ...

LINK

On a different note, quoting from Wiki (according to some) makes me a semi-literate, pseudo-intellectual wannabe, I say so be it ...

[Moshin]

Originally Posted by PoorFan
Quote from 'Nuke' thread ...



Are ... did you just change your policy in a over night? Why you talking so stingy here? Just cook some 'nuke' in your kitchen ( restaurant ) and throw it in Burma from BD border to clean it up real cleeeaaan. So that those Muslim Rohingya will be pleased for ever for the entire land to lived in.

i would if only i knew how to make them, if someone told me
i would go and make it right know and send it off to Burma...wait..wait the
CIA or watever will find this, end of discussion of nuc's.

[Sauron]

Originally Posted by ammark
To say that they should be given Bangladeshi citizenship is a very noble gesture, but the mentality of Bangladeshis must change and be embracing of these other people.

I agree with this completely. The kindness should not be based on just the fact that they are muslims ... it should be a natural response to their plight.

In reality though, I am not sure that the citizenship will automatically guarantee any alleviation of their misery. What BD needs to do is to get UNHCR very actively involved and get the relief passed on to the intended recipients without any system loss.

Or another option can be - just take them a few miles to the north and push them into India. Given that India does "push-back" from our western border fequently, can't we get some entropy restored by reciprocating "push-back" on our eastern border?

[Moshin]

Originally Posted by Sauron
Or another option can be - just take them a few miles to the north and push them into India. Given that India does "push-back" from our western border fequently, can't we get some entropy restored by reciprocating "push-back" on our eastern border?

I dont think that plan will really work,
You really think that they want another group of displaced people in
thier lands, they already got the Bihari's, I dont think they
want the the Rohingya's in thier land, if people are
in between the border of thier ethnic group like the Rohingya's,
they will not be accepted in any country, as you can see the
current situation in south-east Bangladesh.