Will Ireland gaining test status benefit us?

the_realist · #1 March 15, 2015, 02:31 PM

Assalamualykum

At present, the old test teams do not want to play us. They treat us as if we are still the whipping boys of old and consider us not worthy of playing test matches. I think if Ireland gains test status, they will be keen to play us and beat us, which in turn will provide us with more urgency to improve our own test playing skills. What do you reckon?

Shehwar · #2 March 15, 2015, 02:35 PM

I would love it if Ireland gain test status. They absolutely deserve it. It would benefit cricket in general!!

the_realist · #3 March 15, 2015, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Shehwar
I would love it if Ireland gain test status. They absolutely deserve it. It would benefit cricket in general!!

I feel ICC totally lacks a genuine direction and leadership. It seems ICC is totally dictated by the boards of India, Australia and England, whose main and only aim is to earn cashes. These boards do not care about general development of cricket around the world. Until ICC gain its own sovereignty, I cannot see cricket progressing.

Tigers_eye · #4 March 15, 2015, 02:47 PM

Yes. We would not be the media punching bag. However, it is not happening.

I have some property that I want to sell. I got it from a Nigerian prince who is my friend.

the_realist · #5 March 15, 2015, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigers_eye

I have some property that I want to sell. I got it from a Nigerian prince who is my friend.

Lol...what are you on?

mij · #6 March 15, 2015, 03:01 PM

Ireland already want half of our revenue. In long run I don't see how they going to benefit us.

icricket · #7 March 15, 2015, 03:56 PM

^^ plus their players would have an extra edge by playing in the county cricket in England. But I would love the associates to be the test-playing nations

Pakistan and West Indies sealed their QF deals after playing with associates in this WC.

Hasan2k8 · #8 March 15, 2015, 04:22 PM

NO. Think big, been playing for 15 years of test, look ahead now. Think big. Need to perform in test, from now on, these next few years going to be quite important, have to be beating some big teams at home in test.

Ireland, team ageing. They, they are going backwards to me, despite winning two games against the test playing nations. They dont have the facilities, structure, enough of players to become test status. Nor cricket is even the top 4 sports in Ireland.
For Ireland to become test playing nation, their sports gov needs to invest in cricketing infrastructure as a start. Simple as that.

the_realist · #9 March 15, 2015, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Hasan2k8
NO. Think big, been playing for 15 years of test, look ahead now. Think big. Need to perform in test, from now on, these next few years going to be quite important, have to be beating some big teams at home in test.

Ireland, team ageing. They, they are going backwards to me, despite winning two games against the test playing nations. They dont have the facilities, structure, enough of players to become test status. Nor cricket is even the top 4 sports in Ireland.
For Ireland to become test playing nation, their sports gov needs to invest in cricketing infrastructure as a start. Simple as that.

Ireland already has the advantage as half of their country is part of UK. County cricket has a lot Irish originated players. They don't need the infrastructure as much as we do.

RazabQ · #10 March 15, 2015, 04:44 PM

I say yes, it's good for us. For them to get Test status one of the tin morol has to push strongly for them and get the others to agree. That will most likely be Australia as by making Ireland a Test nation, they will prevent England from poaching their best players. So then they will be unable to give them tours. We will tour them and they will tour us and our batters and bowlers will get some stats padding. Plus it will shut em (the Irish) up

BANFAN · #11 March 15, 2015, 05:06 PM

Why not, the more team comes, better for us... We will have more matches.

Rifat · #12 March 15, 2015, 05:39 PM

For the sake of Ireland Cricket and her fans, Yes.

NoName · #13 March 15, 2015, 05:49 PM

Sure why not, Zimbabwe just took a massive blow and I don't see how they would be able to compete with us. At least Ireland will be competitive

Max100 · #14 March 15, 2015, 06:00 PM

its good for us, ireland and for world cricket. they have passionate fan and team ireland have hunger to do well and they have fighting spirit. If they get test status, players wont leave for england.

so yes, they deserve and they should get test status

jeesh · #15 March 16, 2015, 03:19 AM

Ireland playing tests means we get more opportunities to win and get personal accomplishments. And we ll know Bangladesh team learns more from its victories and accolades than from losing. Also confidence, the winning midset its infectious. Had we played Pakistan or any other strong side instead of Zimbabwe last year, would we come into the World Cup with the same confidence?

But i also agree with Hasan2k8. Quite a few of their key performers are hitting their mid 30's. Can they replenish talent? I brought this point up before, the same issue happened with Kenya. True they had corruption but they couldnt produce a single quality player after Otieno, Odumbe, Tikolo, Odoyo. Pretty sure ICC will keep these things in mind before granting Ireland or any other nation test status.

Jadukor · #16 March 16, 2015, 03:45 AM

why does it matter if it benefits us or not? Are we going to block them if it doesn't? They deserve the status by their own merit and that is the end of story.

Nafi · #17 March 16, 2015, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Jadukor
They deserve the status by their own merit and that is the end of story.

Debatable. Im not convinced they have a proper domestic structure nor will they produce players to replace their current old team.

And is cricket even popular in Ireland?

Tigerblood99 · #18 March 16, 2015, 04:27 AM

Think there are 10 kids in class right?

You and this kid named Zim are the only fat kids.

Nobody really wants to socialize with u two n prefer you two fatties just keep to yourselves.

Theres a new student trying to get into the class.

Her name is Ire n she is a fat kid too.

Now even the average looking girls in class called Engla n Windi prefer rather that you, zim and ire form your own group n leave everyone alone.

The hot girl in class called Aussie wont let you sit next to her. N her bf Indi bullies you in class.

Sound familiar?

Nafi · #19 March 16, 2015, 04:38 AM

^Yeh but we're losing weight and after we get a new hair cut, we'll be cool.

adamnsu · #20 March 16, 2015, 05:07 AM

Its a difficult to predict the benefits of Ireland as a Test Nation for BD cricket , as we know who the "big 3" who control cricket and are all against Bangladesh.

However it might mean more Test cricket with Ireland other than Zimbabwe.

anon4567 · #21 March 16, 2015, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Nafi
Debatable. Im not convinced they have a proper domestic structure nor will they produce players to replace their current old team.

And is cricket even popular in Ireland?

Most of the current Ireland Cricket team squad plays English County Cricket, so they don't need a domestic league of their own (at the moment). You don't see any new talents in Ireland? Seriously? Andrew Balbirnie and Paul Stirling are 24, George Dockrell is 22, Andrew McBrine is 21, Stuart Thomson is 23, they all performed well in this world cup. Plus their star players like Porterfield, Kev, Cusack, Mooney, Niall, Sorenson and Wilson have a good 6-7 years before they retire...

Ireland actually had a decent fan base that were supporting them in most WC games they played here in Australia.

anon4567 · #22 March 16, 2015, 10:52 AM

If Ireland gains test status, it will hugely benefit us. How many tests do we play in a year? Only a hand full, half of which are usually against Zimbabwe. Moreover almost all our test matches are played in Bangladesh. We need to get exposed to different conditions, and if Ireland gains test status, we can have more away test matches that would hugely benefit us.

_Milon_ · #23 March 16, 2015, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by anon4567
Most of the current Ireland Cricket team squad plays English County Cricket, so they don't need a domestic league of their own (at the moment). You don't see any new talents in Ireland? Seriously? Andrew Balbirnie and Paul Stirling are 24, George Dockrell is 22, Andrew McBrine is 21, Stuart Thomson is 23, they all performed well in this world cup. Plus their star players like Porterfield, Kev, Cusack, Mooney, Niall, Sorenson and Wilson have a good 6-7 years before they retire...

Plus they are full time professionals and not just a bunch of amateurs. They have a central contract in place for the players.

Donal C · #24 March 16, 2015, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Hasan2k8
NO. Think big, been playing for 15 years of test, look ahead now. Think big. Need to perform in test, from now on, these next few years going to be quite important, have to be beating some big teams at home in test.

Ireland, team ageing. They, they are going backwards to me, despite winning two games against the test playing nations. They dont have the facilities, structure, enough of players to become test status. Nor cricket is even the top 4 sports in Ireland.
For Ireland to become test playing nation, their sports gov needs to invest in cricketing infrastructure as a start. Simple as that.

This excuse again

2007

"They're just a team of amateurs who had their moment in the sun, let them fade into obscurity"

Result: Knocked Bangladesh out of world t20 in 2009.

"They're players are getting older, finished"

Result: McCallan,Bray,Langford-Smith,Morgan et al all replaced with good players. Cricket Ireland embraced a fully professional set up and in 2011 we were very good.

"Cricket isnt a big deal there, this one generation is all they have sure just look at Kenya"

Result: Balbirnie has been a revelation,Dockrell and Stirling all have 3 more world cups left in them at least. McBrine was decent. 3 wins, all without Johnston,Murtagh and Rankin.

"your post".

Cricket isnt very big here, but its a hell of a lot bigger than it was and we keep producing players. The bits and pieces guys like Cusack,Mooney etc. will be phased out in the next couple years and be replaced by people who have matured in a much stronger administration and player pool than they have. Simmons will probably leave soon to manage the WI and we can get a fresh coach in. Young and Chase werent tested which was annoying, but they'll get their chance, as will Graeme McCarter.

We have our domestic competition starting in a few weeks which I'm looking forward to following, plus we have other young players in England like Stuart Poynter at Durham. And btw our structure is growing and our facilities pretty decent actually. Just need the funding to build on it.

MHRAM · #25 March 16, 2015, 11:10 AM

For Irish cricket and fans, and cricket overall, will a big boost if Ireland are considered a test playing nation and I feel that they wholeheartedly deserve it.

For our selfish reasons, wouldn't be too bad.Irish are on our level and I would back us to beat them but with a bit of a challenge. More cricket for us GREAT.