Impact of Heath Streak - Bowling Coach - Page 2

jeesh · #26 February 20, 2015, 10:42 PM

Step up step i guess. He is firstly establishing the basics. Less than a year ago the likes of Rubel and Shafiul were spraying all over the place. Now its encouraging to see them bowling in a good channel.
Sure in the time to come we will see more variation, bowlers developing stock deliveries etc.

BANFAN · #27 March 9, 2015, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by WarWolf
Would like to see the pacers getting more penetration. You need to make the batsmen play the deliveries. Hope Streak would be able to make the pacers understand and apply this basic.

10 out of 10, was this a good enough penetration by the pacers, to acknowledge that this guy is really doing something good to our pacers?

I think he deserves a huge applause. Going by the output.

betaar · #28 March 9, 2015, 03:42 PM

He's definitely doing something right. 1 NO ball in the whole inning is the testament of our bowlers discipline which should be directly associated with Heath Streak's coaching. Well done!!!

Fazal · #29 March 9, 2015, 04:01 PM

Before it was a gut feeling, not its more apparent. The bowling coach has definitively have very positive impact to our FBs.

RazabQ · #30 March 9, 2015, 07:10 PM

Our pacers are having more and more impact. Like I said after the Zim series - I was seeing an upward trajectory and that has definitely continued.

Ashfaq · #31 March 9, 2015, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by betaar
He's definitely doing something right. 1 NO ball in the whole inning is the testament of our bowlers discipline which should be directly associated with Heath Streak's coaching. Well done!!!

Not to mention no wides. That is tremendous control from our bowlers.

al-Sagar · #32 March 9, 2015, 11:35 PM

Heath streak purely deserves the credit, he always had been a wise bowler .... and we have seen how under his guidance the ZIM pacers always were disciplined.

looks like Streak is introducing discipline in our pacers and they know are better judging right places to bowl.

Off Topic: has Shahadat Hossain Rajib worked with Heath Streak ???

WarWolf · #33 March 10, 2015, 12:38 AM

Streak is my one of the all time favorite pace bowlers with awesome inswing and outswing capabilities. He used to lead Zimbabwean attack with good controlled line and length. Not to mention the swing and off-the seam movement.

An amazing fact about this guy was his fitness. He rarely got into any kind of injury even after bowling long spells in every test match. He knew how to remain fit. I think he is unleashing these techniques to the team as well.

RazabQ · #34 March 10, 2015, 01:43 AM

Rajib is 32. He never had good habits. He is also an airhead. I think we should assume his days are gone and hope you plies his trade in NL and gives our up-and-coming batters practice against grunting and the occasional good bouncer.

NoName · #35 March 10, 2015, 02:45 AM

Streak owes us after years of tormenting BD

WarWolf · #36 March 10, 2015, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by NoName
Streak owes us after years of tormenting BD

Top post. Now it's payback time!

jeesh · #37 March 10, 2015, 05:08 AM

This thread could have easily taken a different tune if the outcome of last nights game was different.

Regardless of what happened last night, i see a lot of visible change. When Ian Pont took over, there was discipline, our guys were trying slower deliveries and other variations. Sadly all that stopped the day SJ got on board-and from there onwards it kept getting worse and worse. From the very first games under Heath Streak there has been more control, discipline from our bowlers. At least they come out with some sort of plan.

Heath Streak's job is not an easy one. In Australia or New Zealand a bowler has to just give slight effort to bowl a bouncer, whereas in BD you have to strain your back, and even then sometimes the ball doesnt carry to keepers chest. Because of the flat decks our pacers get hit all over, and captain brings on spinner while the ball is still new-happens in all format-school cricket, first class, DPL. So the mentality of our bowlers is completely different, and well behind their counterparts.

We dont have any institution which works with young pacers, they dont know the fitness drills, the diet they are required to have, or even basic technique. The likes of Zaheer Khan had the chance to work with Dennis Lillee around the year in addition to their national team bowling coach. ANd now Shami etc work with Glen McGrath. Since Streak joined has he even been given the chance to do a week long skill camp with national and emerging pacers?

Even consider the experience factor. Even Mohit Sharma (Who Imo is a very average bowler, but tremendous performer), has become seasoned thanks to the gruelling intensity and competitiveness of IPL. Each IPL sides have their own big name bowling coach. Then they play alongside the Steyns and Malinga's, they bowl in the nets to De Villiers and Kohli's. Besides IPL, these Indian bowlers play competitive first class cricket, and enough of A Team tours. So there is a reason why they are so good.

Now compare that with where our guys come from, and what experience they have. If you think about all this, Streak has done fine, and probably doing the best he can. We wont get Boults and Starcs with the current setup unfortunately. A lot more work has to be done before the bowlers come to the likes of Streak. I just hope the current administration realizes this from the current world cup.

BANFAN · #38 March 10, 2015, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jeesh
This thread could have easily taken a different tune if the outcome of last nights game was different.

Regardless of what happened last night, i see a lot of visible change. When Ian Pont took over, there was discipline, our guys were trying slower deliveries and other variations. Sadly all that stopped the day SJ got on board-and from there onwards it kept getting worse and worse. From the very first games under Heath Streak there has been more control, discipline from our bowlers. At least they come out with some sort of plan.

Heath Streak's job is not an easy one. In Australia or New Zealand a bowler has to just give slight effort to bowl a bouncer, whereas in BD you have to strain your back, and even then sometimes the ball doesnt carry to keepers chest. Because of the flat decks our pacers get hit all over, and captain brings on spinner while the ball is still new-happens in all format-school cricket, first class, DPL. So the mentality of our bowlers is completely different, and well behind their counterparts.

We dont have any institution which works with young pacers, they dont know the fitness drills, the diet they are required to have, or even basic technique. The likes of Zaheer Khan had the chance to work with Dennis Lillee around the year in addition to their national team bowling coach. ANd now Shami etc work with Glen McGrath. Since Streak joined has he even been given the chance to do a week long skill camp with national and emerging pacers?

Even consider the experience factor. Even Mohit Sharma (Who Imo is a very average bowler, but tremendous performer), has become seasoned thanks to the gruelling intensity and competitiveness of IPL. Each IPL sides have their own big name bowling coach. Then they play alongside the Steyns and Malinga's, they bowl in the nets to De Villiers and Kohli's. Besides IPL, these Indian bowlers play competitive first class cricket, and enough of A Team tours. So there is a reason why they are so good.

Now compare that with where our guys come from, and what experience they have. If you think about all this, Streak has done fine, and probably doing the best he can. We wont get Boults and Starcs with the current setup unfortunately. A lot more work has to be done before the bowlers come to the likes of Streak. I just hope the current administration realizes this from the current world cup.

Yes Streak is doing a good job. If the board just realizes this and doesn't just throw him away after the World Cup, as they did with Ian Pont, I'll be happy.

The other stuff you talked about, needs major efforts from BCB, which I don't see coming at all. Our work culture doesn't permit us to do the things, even if we realize that to be the right thing to do. We only work under pressure, From the top/bottom. So we have to have a repeated disasterous performances to trigger such efforts...unless some messiah lands up in BCB, by chance.

shuziburo · #39 March 11, 2015, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by WarWolf
Would like to see the pacers getting more penetration. You need to make the batsmen play the deliveries. Hope Streak would be able to make the pacers understand and apply this basic.

Penetration is the key. Kumble was not anything special, but he had penetration. That alone atoned for his other short comings.

1) Off stamp. 2) Penetration. 3) Variation/deception.

shuziburo · #40 March 11, 2015, 10:15 AM

Our pacers also need to learn bowling yorkers. Good yorkers can be lethal on slowest of pitches. Can you imaging Taskin sending a 150+ inswinging yorker?

Fazal · #41 March 11, 2015, 03:19 PM

Bhai aar koto penetration chao? Now a days Rubel is penetrating pretty good.

Haven't you seen his last two wickets?

jabbar · #42 March 11, 2015, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Fazal
Bhai aar koto penetration chao? Now a days Rubel is penetrating pretty good.

Haven't you seen his last two wickets?

... And by the news of recent dropped legal charges back in BD.

BANFAN · #43 March 12, 2015, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by shuziburo
Penetration is the key. Kumble was not anything special, but he had penetration. That alone atoned for his other short comings.

1) Off stamp. 2) Penetration. 3) Variation/deception.

Happy With the Penetration of RUBEL

Mash is excellent with the off stump line

We aren't good enough with Variation and Deception yet, but it's just matter of time. Rubel, Mash both has good deceptive slower delivery, RUBEL, Taskin Mash all have Yorkers, Bouncers, Pace etc most variations, but only problem is that we can't reverse and swing at will ... I'm sure these finer aspects will come out, if you continue with Heath Streak ..

That variation and deception provides better penetration