Raqibul's World Cup dream squad - Page 2

shaoun · #26 February 8, 2007, 01:43 AM

i dont agree with the wc squad being all young players. last time our selectors tried that was on 2003 and we all know the result. young players should come in after this world cup. i dont understand why they want to replace khaled mashud. why now? why right before the world cup? world cup is the biggest tournament and experience matters. at 99 wc they didnt even want to pick nannu but he scored the highest run in that world cup.
i think this is the best squad for 2007 world cup
shariar nafees (automatic choice for opener)
mahrab jr (i dont see anyone better)
aftab ahmed
saquibul hassan
habibur bashar
mohammed ashraful (sad but but no replacement)
khaled mashud (he is more experience and musfique hasnt perform either)
mohammed rafique
masrafee bin murtaza
abdur rajjak
shahadat
(this would be my best eleven)
rajin saleh (he should bat in middle order but if necessary he can open)
tushar imran
taposh baishya
syed rassel ( we need a left handed bowler)
we are playing only 3 matches if we dont beat either india or srilanka. if we dont go to second round there is no need to play all 15 players. in that case guys like tushar, syed rassel may not even get a chance.

Miraz · #27 February 8, 2007, 08:54 AM

OK!! after Raqibul it's Bulbul time and here's his dream squad

From BDNews

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What will the coming World Cup squad look like? Who should be on the team to be announced on February 13? This sports discussion series is concerned with finding answers to these questions. Bangladesh's former captains talk about their dream teams with bdnews24.com.

Masud Parvez, bdnews24.com sports reporter, meets the former chiefs of the Bangladesh squad to bring you their views on what the next team should look like. Our second episode is Aminul Islam Bulbul's line-up.

Aminul Islam, who led the Bangladesh in their first World Cup campaign, prefers the experienced squad for the upcoming World Cup to the young-blood and believes the selectors would pick up the right squad favouring the experienced players.

"Who knows better about the worth of experience of a player than me? I'm not saying it as I had led the Bangladesh team to the 2003 World Cup. I was lucky that I got a bunch of experienced cricketers; as a result, we made the nation proud of beating Pakistan," said Islam adding, "But, the nation became distressed at cricketers' poor performance in the next World Cup where the experienced players were overlooked. Even, Bangladesh lost to minnow Canada."

Islam wants to give the room to openers Javed Omar and Rajin Saleh in the 15-member squad instead of openers Mehrab Hossain Jr and Tamim Iqbal, and he pins his hope on the remaining 13 cricketers, who are now in Zimbabwe playing the four-match ODI series.

"You can experiment someone as a debutant in the remaining matches after ensuring the series, but you can't make experiment at the top -level tournament like World Cup," opined Islam.

"Tamim is yet to make his debut in ODI. I don't want to underestimate Mehrab, but he is really not in a position to play for Bangladesh in the top level show," explained Islam.

Former cricketer Islam, who is now an Abahani coach, also explained the inclusion of Rajin Saleh and Javed Omar in the side.

"Rajin is having an excellent time in the ongoing Premier Cricket League. Besides, he is a utility cricketer with his outstanding fielding. You can make him (Rajin) open the innings, again you can bring him in the middle order."

The Abahani coach prefers Javed Omar to open the innings along with Shahriar Nafees though the gritty opener is abhorrent of the cricket fans due to his lackluster performance .

"Everyone sees Javed's negative side rather than the positive. He can prolong the innings and you would find Javed's such significant innings looking at the record book. I want this character batsman in the 50-over affair as Shahriar plays enough aggressively. So, it is not necessary that both the openers must be similar," opined Islam.

After settling the opening pair, Islam brings in a slight change in the middle order to upgrade Mohammad Ashraful to the number five from six and move Habibul Bashar down to number six from five.

"Aftab must play at number three and Saqib at number four. Ashraful should be given the fifth position, instead of Bashar, to give him more time in the middle. Besides, Ashraful used to play both spinner and seamer and his running-between-the-wicket is excellent like Saqib and both the batsmen can put on a big total on the board if their partnership is settled once," clarified Islam.

Islam said, "Habibul lacks consistency. Once he scores a fifty, then makes a naught in the very next match. Besides, he was in run drought in the domestic league, but he is a good captain. Habibul certainly knows what Ashraful can do if he gets more time to play and Habibul should consider it in the grater interest of the team."

Wicketkeeper Khaled Mashud, spinner Mohammad Rafique and pacemen Mashrafee Bin Mortaza and Shahadat Hossain are the automatic choices of Islam's dream team.

On whether a specialist spinner or a pacer would perform at the number eleven, Islam prefers to include paceman Mohammad Sharif instead of spinner Abdur Razzak.

"Bangladesh have to play against India and Sri Lanka in the group matches. There are a few left-handed batsmen in the Sri Lankan side so far I know and it is a problem for Bangladesh to play three left-handed spinners against Sri Lanka," said Islam, who hammered a century in his debut test.

"I want to keep Razzak out from the eleven as left-armers Rafique and Saqib would complete their 10-over quota," Islam went on.

The former player said, "Sharif is a genuine all-rounder and the best first-changed bowler though he sat out for a long period. The team would be benefited by his batting."

The former national cricketer has selected 15 cricketers for the World Cup. They are Shahriar Nafees, Javed Omar, Aftab Ahmed, Saqib Al Hasan, Habibul Bashar, Mohammad Ashraful, Khaled Mashud, Mohammad Rafique, Mohammad Sharif, Mashrafee Bin Mortaza, Shahadat Hossain, Rajin Saleh, Syed Rasel, Abdur Razzak and Tushar Imran.

His playing eleven is comprised of Shahriar Nafees, Javed Omar, Aftab Ahmed, Saqib Al Hasan, Mohammad Ashraful, Habibul Bashar, Khaled Mashud, Mashrafee Bin Mortaza, Mohammad Sharif/Abdur Razzak, Mohammad Rafique and Shahadat Hossain.

The most debatable inclusion is the good old Javed Omar

Attt. Mods : Can we change the name of the thread (only if TheWatcher agrees with the proposal as he started the thread

) to 'World Cup Dream Squads by Former National Players' ? as I think many other dream squad is yet to come.

rudro · #28 February 8, 2007, 09:49 AM

OK. I don't really blame them if they still count on Mashud over Mushfiq. Mushfiq failed with bat in almost every game he played for the national team. Don't say that he held the innings in the last game. Mashud does that for us, too.

I was a vocal proponent of replacing Mashud with Mushfiq, based on Mashud's bad form and Mushfiq's excellent performance with U-19 and BD-A. But seems like he failed to translate it to the higher level.

roaring tigerz · #29 February 8, 2007, 10:10 AM

I really have MAJOR reservations about Bulbul's selection.A former captain, one of our pioneering cricketers and his opinions are apparently respected by everyone in BD cricket. But one second... Javed Omar? Are you kidding me?

I can understand picking Rajin instead of Tamim or Mehrab. I agree that Mehrab needed more time before being thrust into the biggest tournament in cricket. Rajin would probably be a safer and wiser choice. But JO is a completely different thing. Time and again his lack of skills in ODIs has been exposed. If we so much as even think about JO in ODIs, I would consider it a massive step backward.

About Raqibul, I completely agree with DhakaBlues comments earlier in this thread. A former captain, astute cricketing mind and closely involved with the domestic league. I might not agree with Dollars selection, but Raqibul's perception is a million times more credible than any of ours.

TheWatcher · #30 February 8, 2007, 10:13 AM

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"Everyone sees Javed's negative side rather than the positive. He can prolong the innings and you would find Javed's such significant innings looking at the record book. I want this character batsman in the 50-over affair as Shahriar plays enough aggressively. So, it is not necessary that both the openers must be similar," opined Islam.

Fallacious reasoning- SN may be very aggressive against Zimbabwe and Kenya, but his strike rate generally stays around 60 against other teams. Putting another slow scorer with SN just creates extra pressure on him. Spitty and thebest already have done plenty of statistical analysis to bust the myth of Javed Omar, so I am not going there again.

Does Bulbul really think inclusions of JO and Pilot can make a difference in matches against SL and India ? It sounds like he is still stuck in good old days when we would play for respectable losses.

pagol-chagol · #31 February 8, 2007, 10:15 AM

Bulbul shows good reasons to state what he wants and why he wants it, but he lost me when he said Bashar is a good captain. Is this a joke? Did he say this on the fly to make up, because on his previous sentence he said Bashar is a basically inconsistant batsman and too slow to take quick runs with Sakib?

sadi · #32 February 8, 2007, 10:25 AM

It is quite hard for any former cricketers to name a team. They rather be on the safe side and pick the team based on the ones they know personally. They don't want to ruin a friendship by making a side with those new players leaving out their old friends. I guess thats the case with Bulbul too. I am not sure how close he is to Javed Omar or Khaled Masud but since he knows them better than he knows Mushfiq, Mehrab or Tamim, he rather went for those names.

Tigers_eye · #33 February 8, 2007, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by sadi
It is quite hard for any former cricketers to name a team. They rather be on the safe side and pick the team based on the ones they know personally. They don't want to ruin a friendship by making a side with those new players leaving out their old friends. I guess thats the case with Bulbul too. I am not sure how close he is to Javed Omar or Khaled Masud but since he knows them better than he knows Mushfiq, Mehrab or Tamim, he rather went for those names.

Bulbul is the coach of Abahani and K Mashud is captain. How close do you think they are?

Rudro,
Mushfiq did perform greatly. Without his batting we don't white wash Zim at home, period.

FaltuRidwanBhai · #34 February 8, 2007, 10:47 AM

wow. team ta kisui buzhlam na. pura extreme. akdike shob bura ak dike shob chengra.

Mohiul · #35 February 8, 2007, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Miraz
OK!! after Raqibul it's Bulbul time and here's his dream squad

The most debatable inclusion is the good old Javed Omar

Attt. Mods : Can we change the name of the thread to 'World Cup Dream Squads by Former National Players' ? as I think many other dream squad is yet to come

Please, Mods. it's a better idea

Fazal · #36 February 8, 2007, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by FaltuRidwanBhai
wow. team ta kisui buzhlam na. pura extreme. akdike shob bura ak dike shob chengra.

Instead of wasting time here, I wished they had a 5 ODI series between the buira vs chengra. Thats would have answered some the the buira vs chenga issues atleast in my mind.

rudro · #37 February 8, 2007, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Tigers_eye
Rudro,
Mushfiq did perform greatly. Without his batting we don't white wash Zim at home, period.

I know what you are talking about. Mushfiq played 2 games; he did not have to bat in one. It is true that his 18 n.o played a big part in the fifth ODI win. Don't you expect the same from Pilot on any given day? We don't have to go back far link

Overall, Mushfiq played 7 ODIs, he batted in 4 innings (1 not out) and accumulated 52 runs. If I consider last 4 innings where Pilot had to bat, he scored 54 runs (1 not out).

Truth is Mushfiq is yet to justify his inclusion in the team. Hope he does it in real time.

akabir77 · #38 February 8, 2007, 11:57 AM

Aminul Islam, who led the Bangladesh in their first World Cup campaign, prefers the experienced squad for the upcoming World Cup to the young-blood and believes the selectors would pick up the right squad favouring the experienced players.

"Who knows better about the worth of experience of a player than me? I'm not saying it as I had led the Bangladesh team to the 2003 World Cup. I was lucky that I got a bunch of experienced cricketers; as a result, we made the nation proud of beating Pakistan," said Islam adding, "But, the nation became distressed at cricketers' poor performance in the next World Cup where the experienced players were overlooked. Even, Bangladesh lost to minnow Canada."

Islam wants to give the room to openers Javed Omar and Rajin Saleh in the 15-member squad instead of openers Mehrab Hossain Jr and Tamim Iqbal, and he pins his hope on the remaining 13 cricketers, who are now in Zimbabwe playing the four-match ODI series.

"You can experiment someone as a debutant in the remaining matches after ensuring the series, but you can't make experiment at the top -level tournament like World Cup," opined Islam.

"Tamim is yet to make his debut in ODI. I don't want to underestimate Mehrab, but he is really not in a position to play for Bangladesh in the top level show," explained Islam.

Former cricketer Islam, who is now an Abahani coach, also explained the inclusion of Rajin Saleh and Javed Omar in the side.

"Rajin is having an excellent time in the ongoing Premier Cricket League. Besides, he is a utility cricketer with his outstanding fielding. You can make him (Rajin) open the innings, again you can bring him in the middle order."

The Abahani coach prefers Javed Omar to open the innings along with Shahriar Nafees though the gritty opener is abhorrent of the cricket fans due to his lackluster performance .

"Everyone sees Javed's negative side rather than the positive. He can prolong the innings and you would find Javed's such significant innings looking at the record book. I want this character batsman in the 50-over affair as Shahriar plays enough aggressively. So, it is not necessary that both the openers must be similar," opined Islam.

After settling the opening pair, Islam brings in a slight change in the middle order to upgrade Mohammad Ashraful to the number five from six and move Habibul Bashar down to number six from five.

"Aftab must play at number three and Saqib at number four. Ashraful should be given the fifth position, instead of Bashar, to give him more time in the middle. Besides, Ashraful used to play both spinner and seamer and his running-between-the-wicket is excellent like Saqib and both the batsmen can put on a big total on the board if their partnership is settled once," clarified Islam.

Islam said, "Habibul lacks consistency. Once he scores a fifty, then makes a naught in the very next match. Besides, he was in run drought in the domestic league, but he is a good captain. Habibul certainly knows what Ashraful can do if he gets more time to play and Habibul should consider it in the grater interest of the team."

Wicketkeeper Khaled Mashud, spinner Mohammad Rafique and pacemen Mashrafee Bin Mortaza and Shahadat Hossain are the automatic choices of Islam's dream team.

On whether a specialist spinner or a pacer would perform at the number eleven, Islam prefers to include paceman Mohammad Sharif instead of spinner Abdur Razzak.

"Bangladesh have to play against India and Sri Lanka in the group matches. There are a few left-handed batsmen in the Sri Lankan side so far I know and it is a problem for Bangladesh to play three left-handed spinners against Sri Lanka," said Islam, who hammered a century in his debut test.

"I want to keep Razzak out from the eleven as left-armers Rafique and Saqib would complete their 10-over quota," Islam went on.

The former player said, "Sharif is a genuine all-rounder and the best first-changed bowler though he sat out for a long period. The team would be benefited by his batting."

The former national cricketer has selected 15 cricketers for the World Cup. They are Shahriar Nafees, Javed Omar, Aftab Ahmed, Saqib Al Hasan, Habibul Bashar, Mohammad Ashraful, Khaled Mashud, Mohammad Rafique, Mohammad Sharif, Mashrafee Bin Mortaza, Shahadat Hossain, Rajin Saleh, Syed Rasel, Abdur Razzak and Tushar Imran.

His playing eleven is comprised of Shahriar Nafees, Javed Omar, Aftab Ahmed, Saqib Al Hasan, Mohammad Ashraful, Habibul Bashar, Khaled Mashud, Mashrafee Bin Mortaza, Mohammad Sharif/Abdur Razzak, Mohammad Rafique and Shahadat Hossain.

bdnews24.com/mp/ar/ja/1917 hrs

I like This team very much and bulbul got my 100% support. he is right on the money on every thing. We should take an experience team.
I like his comment about Habibuls position. I hope he listens to him and chg his pos from 5 to 6.

akabir77 · #39 February 8, 2007, 12:03 PM

opps just saw that this is already posted in that Raqibuls thread. Mods if u want just put this in that thread and change that thread name to what some one mentioned.. "EX BD Captains Dream team"

BD-Shardul · #40 February 8, 2007, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Miraz
I will go with Raqibul's squad with only two changes. Syed Rasel in place of Dollar Mahmud

and Mushfiqur Rahim in place of Khaled Mashud.

I agree

arafath79 · #41 February 8, 2007, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigers_eye
Not literary!! Fakir in sense of cricketing knowledge (evaluating talent) even after having such a rich background.

O i see

heheehe....

TheWatcher · #42 February 9, 2007, 01:17 PM

What about Alok--Alok Kapali--in the World Cup squad? Why should he be there? Why not? Supporters and detractors of Alok squabble for hours. His probable inclusion in the World Cup squad may give rise to a storm in the proverbial teacup.

Shafiqul Haq Hira is adamant. He insists on Kapali. And so, Hira starts answering the question as to why with another question of is own, "Why has Azher Mehmud been on the Pakistani team for such a long time?"

"Experience," was the reply of the former Bangladesh captain to his own question. It is because of his experience that I would put Alok Kapali in my squad.

Alok played his last One Day International (ODI) last year in Zimbabwe.

In his explanation Hira said, "I'd take him on as an experienced all rounder. Mind that. He has had the experience of playing at least one World Cup. Also, he played well on sub-continent wickets and the West Indies' wicket is similar. You could say that Alok is my surprise choice."

No doubt it is. Despite his poor performance in domestic cricket, Alok finding a berth on the World Cup team would really be a surprise. But Hira continued his reasons for the selection.

"Many players on the current Zimbabwe tour didn't have sparkling records in domestic cricket. But have they performed badly abroad? Who can say Alok wouldn't do better in the World Cup?"

But Hira's choice is not pure wishful thinking. He'd only field Alok in the eleven when one of the middle-order fails. In such a case, Alok's leg spin bowling and good fielding ability could be used.

The former wicket-keeper captain said, "I think nowadays more all-rounders are necessary for the ODIs. I consider Aftab and Sakib all-rounders."

I would like to have two pacers (Mashrafi and Shahadat) in my eleven and use Aftab as the third pacer. After determining the wicket, I would drop a specialist spinner if necessary and include a pacer. Here my choice is Sharif. He could also help increase the batting strength. So, you can see the advantage of having all-rounders."

About Sharif, Hira said, "Pakistani batsmen had problems facing him in the 2002 tour. He was able to swing the ball both ways. Pakistan made only 202 runs in an innings of that Test. Mudassar Nazar highly appreciated his bowling."

The former captain would also like young Dollar Mahmud in his squad. He said, "We don't have many all-rounders in the team. Dollar is a good one, so I'd pick him."

Hira would drop Tushar Imran and Tapash Baisya to place Alok and Dollar in their stead.

Hira would love Khaled Masud for a wicket keeper, so there'd be no Mushfiqur Rahim in his imagined squad.

He would exclude opener Tamim Iqbal and Mehrab Hossain Jr.Hira would open with Shahriar Nafis and Javed Omar instead. He'd also have Rajn Saleh.

"If Rajin is on the team, we'd have an extra off spinner."

The Bangladeshi World Cup dream squad of Shafiqul Haq Hira: Shahriar Nafees, Javed Omar, Rajin Saleh, Aftab Ahmed, Sakib Al Hasan, Habibul Bashar, Mohammad Ashraful, Khaled Masud, Mohammad Rafiqie, Abdur Razzaq, Mashrafe Bin Mortaza, Shahadat Hossain, Mohammad Sharif, Dollar Mahmud and Alok Kapali.

Shafiqul Haq Hira's World Cup eleven: Shahriar Nafees, Javed Omar, Aftab Ahmed, Sakib Al Hasan, Habibul Bashar, Mohammad Ashraful, Khaled Masud, Mohammad Rafique/ Mohammad Sharif, Abdur Razzaq, Mashrafe Bin Mortaza, Shahadat Hossain.

Tigers_eye · #43 February 9, 2007, 01:45 PM

All I want to know, is he in the pipeline of becoming a selector any time soon? If not, then I have no issue of his fantasy lineup.

TheWatcher · #44 February 10, 2007, 01:04 PM

Suppose Bangladesh were playing against India or Sri Lanka. Imagine the team scores over 100 runs in just 20 overs against such greats!

Akram Khan believes, it must not be just a dream. It's possible. His verdict- Shahriar Nafees must have Tamim Iqbal for the opening innings.
Tamim is the former Bangladesh skipper's nephew.

When Tamim's elder brother Nafis Iqbal had played for the national team, Akram regularly mentioned Tamim's name while chatting with journalists, saying, "The younger one is much better than Nafis".

Tamim was then just playing age group cricket. But later when Tamim got a chance to be a part of the national squad, he proved his ability as a batsman.

He is such a batsman who can launch scathing attacks against bowlers. "It's rare gift for the Bangladesh cricket," Akram says.

Akram thinks Tamim must be in the "Dream 11" in the World Cup.

"As DOHS captain this time, I got a closer view of Tamim's batting. He has a record of smashing 188 runs in the Premier League. Blind hitting does not yield such runs. It needs planning. Punishing a ball according to its merit must be there. Moreover, nobody in the team strikes as hard as him," Akram says.

Akram wants Tamim in his "Dream 11" to punish bowlers.

Akram, who played the country's first two world cups, says," You must choose the opening pair to exploit the power play option of the game."

"I must favour Tamim to open the game. If he can use his intelligence, nobody will understand how the team scores 100 runs in just 20 overs," Akram says.
Tamim has played only a few one-day matches.

Playing him in the World Cup with such a very little experience- isn't it too much risky?

Akram says, "It's not that, this year we are taking all inexperienced players like in the previous World Cup. Nafees, Aftab, Sakib, Ashraful and Mashrafe all have become experienced now playing so many matches. Moreover, Bashar, Mashud and Rafique are there. I think it's not a bad idea to include Tamim in the team for some quick runs".

Akram wants to play Khaled Mashud as wicketkeeper instead of Mushfiqur Rahim. He, like other former top players, still thinks Mashud can give his best.

Akram has his very own plan for a batting order. "I want to see Ashraful in the 4th position in the batting order. The reason behind the idea is that it will give Ashraful a chance of playing more balls. He usually maintains a minimum gap between runs and balls. Sakib has a power to strike some good boundaries. I prefer he play at number six," the former skipper says.

It's also Akram, who has a better idea than anybody else in the country about the wicket in West Indies. He has the experience of leading Bangladesh A team in Boosta Cup there.

"This time Bangladesh and other Asian teams will do well in the World Cup. West Indies' wicket is more or less similar to those in the subcontinent ".

"Rafique and Razzak are must in my 11."

"I want two pacers. I hear Shahadat is not playing well now-a-days. So I will give Tapash with Mashrafee. Tapash's experience will help a lot."

Mehrab Hossain junior gets a ticket in Akram's dream team despite his recent failures.

"We can use him in the middle order, if necessary. In case anybody fails in the middle order Tushar Imran should get the privilege".
Here's Akram's squad:

Shahriar Nafees, Mehrab Hossain, Tamim Iqbal, Aftab Ahmed, Sakib Al Hasan, Habibul Bashar, Mohammad Ashraful, Khaled Mashud, Mohammad Rafique, Abdur Razzak, Mashrafe Bin Murtaza, Shahadat Hossain, Tapash Baishya, Mohammad Sharif and Tushar Imran.

But this is his "Dream 11":
Shahriar Nafees, Tamim Iqbal, Aftab Ahmed, Mohammad Ashraful, Habibul Bashar, Sakib Al Hasan, Khaled Mashud, Mohammad Rafique, Mashrafe Bin Murtaza, Abdur Razzak and Tapash Baishya. (Following batting order).

sadi · #45 February 10, 2007, 01:43 PM

Shojonpriti? I understand his point but I feel like Tamim needs another year or two. It will be so much exciting to see him and Junaed fighting it out.

ZunaidH · #46 February 10, 2007, 02:39 PM

Those who belive that experience prevails over talent are mediocre defensive people who don't know how to go all out to win. Sports is all about passion and talent. Little bit of experience helps but not lot. In team selection for Bangladesh, the priority should be in the order
1) talent
2) passion
3) experience

Barring Rafiq and Bashar, they should seriously consider retiring all who are "buira bham"

Fortuner · #47 February 10, 2007, 04:25 PM

can ny1 plezzzzzzzzz tell me bout dollar mahmood...raqibul is talki...hw tall..fast is he?

arafath79 · #48 February 10, 2007, 05:55 PM

Is Akram Khan a FAKIR !!! hehehehehe some people said Rakibul is Fakir but he is not really a Fakir. He has got good cricketing knowledge though.

arafath79 · #49 February 10, 2007, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by lance_klusner
can ny1 plezzzzzzzzz tell me bout dollar mahmood...raqibul is talki...hw tall..fast is he?

Dollar Mahmud is an allrounder like Abdul Razzak(Pakistan) or Flintoff (England) accoding to Raqibuls Fakir type comment !!! But he is ok not really Fakir !!

Fortuner · #50 February 11, 2007, 06:36 AM

i wonder why akram n raqibul consider dollar..he is btter than sharif..if so bring him on...