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March 14, 2011, 05:43 AM
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Don't forget to pay homage to Shafiul today
Outstanding bowling. Very unlucky to not get a wicket. It was a pleasure to see him bowl with such accurate line and length. I have great hopes for him. He had always impressed me with his intelligence and barring that one bad day against India he has been really good the past several months.
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March 14, 2011, 05:50 AM
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March 14, 2011, 05:58 AM
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Top performer. One or two wickets would have been great.
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March 14, 2011, 06:00 AM
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I have only one fear about him in my mind. With his skinny figure, he has chances to get injuryprone. Otherwise he will be a Bangladeshi great inshallah some day.
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March 14, 2011, 06:01 AM
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I'll take under two runs an over for a ten over spell against a couple of wickets any day ...
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March 14, 2011, 06:02 AM
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Unlucky not to pick up ten Doeschate's wicket especially. Razzak really needs to work on his fielding.
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March 14, 2011, 06:13 AM
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March 14, 2011, 06:14 AM
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Massively improved his confidence after the India game. Good job.
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March 14, 2011, 06:16 AM
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to see him improving rapidly
Rubel also improved.....he hardly bowl bad bowl nowadays....bowls dead stright...not a bad move for him But lost alot of pace
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March 14, 2011, 06:29 AM
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Take a bow, Shafiul!
I am confident that you along with Rubel will show the same outstanding performance against the Proties!
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March 14, 2011, 06:32 AM
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Good work Shaifiul! Very impressive, he has very fluid bowling action (chest on), which should reduce the chances of him getting injured. If you contrast that to Msshrafee, who has a mixed action,(front and side on) that puts a lot of pressure on his body. The biomechanics for Shaiful is very good, Shafiul doen't need to bulk up, he should run and run, build ip those legs.
So we need to all stop going on about his physique.
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March 14, 2011, 11:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Musfique
Good work Shaifiul! Very impressive, he has very fluid bowling action (chest on), which should reduce the chances of him getting injured. If you contrast that to Msshrafee, who has a mixed action,(front and side on) that puts a lot of pressure on his body. The biomechanics for Shaiful is very good, Shafiul doen't need to bulk up, he should run and run, build ip those legs.
So we need to all stop going on about his physique.
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I have to correct you, sorry.
Shafiul is a SIDEWAYS bowler (back foot lands parallel with the crease) but has a slight 'mix' at the top (misaligns his hips with top half).
Mashrafee couldn't be more SIDEWAYS if he tried (both top and bottom completely lined up correctly).
Shafiul has work to do on using his trailing leg better and not splaying out his front foot so much. Mash is at the behest of his injuries sadly and will always be unable to correct his 'crossed over' feet at the crease.
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March 14, 2011, 12:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian Pont
I have to correct you, sorry.
Shafiul is a SIDEWAYS bowler (back foot lands parallel with the crease) but has a slight 'mix' at the top (misaligns his hips with top half).
Mashrafee couldn't be more SIDEWAYS if he tried (both top and bottom completely lined up correctly).
Shafiul has work to do on using his trailing leg better and not splaying out his front foot so much. Mash is at the behest of his injuries sadly and will always be unable to correct his 'crossed over' feet at the crease.
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Well Said coach, that guy had it completely wrong
Mashrafe is sideways as sideways can be, he is practically a semi slinger like Waqar Younis
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March 14, 2011, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Nafi
Well Said coach, that guy had it completely wrong
Mashrafe is sideways as sideways can be, he is practically a semi slinger like Waqar Younis
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Thanks for your valuable input, you have seriously added a lot of content here with some very useful insight.
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March 14, 2011, 12:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian Pont
I have to correct you, sorry.
Shafiul is a SIDEWAYS bowler (back foot lands parallel with the crease) but has a slight 'mix' at the top (misaligns his hips with top half).
Mashrafee couldn't be more SIDEWAYS if he tried (both top and bottom completely lined up correctly).
Shafiul has work to do on using his trailing leg better and not splaying out his front foot so much. Mash is at the behest of his injuries sadly and will always be unable to correct his 'crossed over' feet at the crease.
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Thanks coach, Iam happy to be corrected, that's one of the great things about having you on the forum.
I guess the reason why I observed what I did is because, I was always taught that, if you are bowling side on, then at the point of delivery, the head is looking at the batsmen over the leading arm (ike Shoiab Akhtar), and if the action is chest on, then the head looks at the batsmen from inside the leading arm (like Mcgrath). The above is supposed help the bowler align the top and bottom part of the torso. So when I see Shafiul bowling on TV, I always thought he was bowling chest on because of the above logic.
It would be great if you can provide some thoughts on the above. Thanks.
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March 14, 2011, 08:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Musfique
Thanks coach, Iam happy to be corrected, that's one of the great things about having you on the forum.
I guess the reason why I observed what I did is because, I was always taught that, if you are bowling side on, then at the point of delivery, the head is looking at the batsmen over the leading arm (ike Shoiab Akhtar), and if the action is chest on, then the head looks at the batsmen from inside the leading arm (like Mcgrath). The above is supposed help the bowler align the top and bottom part of the torso. So when I see Shafiul bowling on TV, I always thought he was bowling chest on because of the above logic.
It would be great if you can provide some thoughts on the above. Thanks.
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99% of coaches have no idea how to tell if a bowler is side on front or or mid way (semi).
All you need to look at is where the back foot points on landing in the crease. Shafiul and Mash are both sideways to the direction they are bowling. Rubel is mid way or semi
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March 14, 2011, 09:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian Pont
99% of coaches have no idea how to tell if a bowler is side on front or or mid way (semi).
All you need to look at is where the back foot points on landing in the crease. Shafiul and Mash are both sideways to the direction they are bowling. Rubel is mid way or semi
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Yikes
Thats concerning for a slinger.
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March 14, 2011, 06:37 AM
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Shafiul has been a revelation in this world cup.
We knew of him for sure but the whole world is starting to pay attention to his abilities.
Bowled superbly in today's game.
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March 14, 2011, 07:15 AM
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As I said to a few of my mates, Dutch openers simply weren't good enough to nick those deliveries. Bowled like a dream, one of the finest new ball spells by a Bangladeshi
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March 14, 2011, 07:25 AM
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Some positive Shafiul quotes from Cricinfo (culled from various articles).
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It will remain a mystery how Shafiul didn't pick up a wicket. He darted the ball in, straightened it outside off, slipped in yorkers, tried faster and slower bouncers and didn't bowl a bad ball. He harassed the openers with movement but the ball either thudded high on the pad or missed the edge. It was one of those days. The first run off him was scored only in the 18th delivery, when he tried a slower one. Netherlands promoted Mudassar Bukhari to pinch some quick runs but Shafiul put him in his place in the 11th over. Two yorkers jammed the bottom of the bat, a bouncer pinged the shoulder and a slower one beat the waft.
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The misfortune
Shafiul Islam kept moving the ball consistently in his first spell, mixed in the yorkers, and the bouncers of both varieties. Still he couldn't get a wicket: he often missed the edge; when he hit the pad, it would be too high. The first spell made for impressive reading, 6-3-7-0, but the wickets column remained blank. When he came back at the death, Shafiul would have thought he had finally got his wicket when ten Doeschate hit him straight to deep square leg. Razzak, however, dropped it. Some things are not meant to be.
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March 14, 2011, 07:34 AM
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Was busy at work...but still somehow managed to synchronize my viewing with his spells That 1st spell was brilliant, they simply didn't know what to do...and the 2nd spell, with them looking to accelerate was also very good, shame Razzak dropped the sitter.
Shafiul deserved a wicket to go with his super economical spell.
Now don't let the praise get to your head, keep working hard on the pitch and off the pitch work on your strength, and core muscles, so that we can watch you continue to bowl for us 7-8 years down the line.
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March 14, 2011, 07:35 AM
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He has to take the Tigers to QF now by taking wickets against the Proties and he will, inshAllah.
We believe in you, Shafiul
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March 14, 2011, 07:38 AM
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Didn't sleep a wink, but it was worth it. Shafiul bowled like a dream and would have got at least a couple of wickets against better batsmen. Razzak's fielding was abominable today. Gave a lot of runs while bowling due to inability to field cleanly and dropped a sitter, robbing Shafiul. He should work on his fielding.
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March 14, 2011, 07:47 AM
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I was so mad at Razzaq for dropping that catch. Shafiul was the GUY today. Great stuff Man. keep it up...
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March 14, 2011, 09:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shuziburo
Didn't sleep a wink, but it was worth it. Shafiul bowled like a dream and would have got at least a couple of wickets against better batsmen. Razzak's fielding was abominable today. Gave a lot of runs while bowling due to inability to field cleanly and dropped a sitter, robbing Shafiul. He should work on his fielding.
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He treats the cricket ball like granade. So he never grips a ball in one chance even during ground fielding. Shafiul missed a wkt for him.
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